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George Will: Government by the ‘experts’
Washington Post ^ | June 10, 2011 | George Will

Posted on 06/10/2011 7:30:04 PM PDT by inkling

"The legislative cannot transfer the power of making laws to any other hands... The power of the legislative, being derived from the people... [is] only to make laws, and not to make legislators." — John Locke, “Second Treatise of Government”

Here, however, is a paradox of sovereignty: The sovereign people, possessing the right to be governed as they choose, might find the exercise of that right tiresome and so might choose to be governed in perpetuity by a despot they cannot subsequently remove. Congress did something like that in passing the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, a.k.a. Obamacare.

The point of PPACA is cost containment. This supposedly depends on the Independent Payment Advisory Board. The IPAB, which is a perfect expression of the progressive mind, is to be composed of 15 presidential appointees empowered to reduce Medicare spending — which is 13 percent of federal spending — to certain stipulated targets. IPAB is to do this by making “proposals” or “recommendations” to limit costs by limiting reimbursements to doctors. This, inevitably, will limit available treatments — and access to care when physicians leave the Medicare system.

The PPACA repeatedly refers to any IPAB proposal as a “legislative proposal” and speaks of “the legislation introduced” by the IPAB. Each proposal automatically becomes law unless Congress passes — with a three-fifths supermajority required in the Senate — a measure cutting medical spending as much as the IPAB proposal would.

This is a travesty of constitutional lawmaking: An executive branch agency makes laws unless Congress enacts legislation to achieve the executive agency’s aim.

And it gets worse...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dianecohen; experts; flake; franks; georgewill; ipab; jeffflake; obama; obamacare; ppaca; scalia; trentfranks; unconstitutional
Glad that the Goldwater Institute is suing to stop IPAB.
1 posted on 06/10/2011 7:30:13 PM PDT by inkling
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To: inkling

So How do we institute a revolution?


2 posted on 06/10/2011 7:35:44 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (For love of Sarah, our country and the American Way of Life.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Get the illegals out of the country. Everyone seems to think they were brought in to lower wages or vote dim. They were brought in to take our attention away from the govt. Everything else was just a bonus. imho


3 posted on 06/10/2011 7:40:39 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: inkling

I don’t read or listen to George Will. He’s the Paul Mulshine of National Politics - a real ass.


4 posted on 06/10/2011 7:48:29 PM PDT by ZULU (Lindsey Graham is a nanometrical pustule of pusillanimous putrescence)
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To: inkling

I guess, given your virtual endorsement of Obama in 2008, and your recent snarky, effete trashing of Palin, the only intelligent response is FU George.


5 posted on 06/10/2011 8:01:20 PM PDT by Minn
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To: inkling
George Will: Government by the ‘experts’...

This is the same George Will who still thinks that the people of Tennessee should prostrate themselves toward Washington five times daily in reverent thanks for the TVA.

6 posted on 06/10/2011 8:01:32 PM PDT by Brass Lamp
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To: ZULU
I don’t read or listen to George Will. He’s the Paul Mulshine of National Politics - a real ass.

Nonetheless, you would be advised to read this. Obamacare is even worse than we thought.

Those 2400 turgid pages aren't done spewing their unconstitutional schemes.

7 posted on 06/10/2011 8:12:02 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: ZULU

The real ass is you. Read this piece he wrote on Obamacare.


8 posted on 06/10/2011 8:15:56 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Don't screw up the 2012 nomination.)
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To: okie01

“Nonetheless, you would be advised to read this. Obamacare is even worse than we thought. “

True.

But I certainly don’t need George Will to tell me that.

Obama is a pure elitist Marxist and a closet Muslim.

Damn him to hell and the idiots who elected him.


9 posted on 06/10/2011 8:18:14 PM PDT by ZULU (Lindsey Graham is a nanometrical pustule of pusillanimous putrescence)
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To: newzjunkey

It amazes me that a conservative like Will is called a RINO by those here on FR simply because he won’t suck Sarah Palin’s toes.


10 posted on 06/10/2011 8:18:45 PM PDT by Patrick1 ("The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Patrick1

“It amazes me that a conservative like Will is called a RINO by those here on FR simply because he won’t suck Sarah Palin’s toes.”

Not sucking toes is one thing; trashing her is something else; Will is part of the cocktail club with Steponallofus at ABC. If he were a real conservative, his @$$ would have been kicked out of ABC a long time ago. His holier than thou approach along with being completely out of touch with REAL conservative Tea Party folks puts him in the same class as Moaning Joe at MSNBC.

As another poster aptly stated, we don’t need Will to tell us jack about Obamacare or anything else for that matter.


11 posted on 06/10/2011 8:25:21 PM PDT by secondamendmentkid
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To: inkling

D.C. cocktail circuit speaks.


12 posted on 06/10/2011 8:31:21 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Patrick1
“It amazes me that a conservative like Will is called a RINO by those here on FR simply because he won’t suck Sarah Palin’s toes.”

I realize this will surprise you Patrick1, but until about a week before the 1980 election, George Will didn't like Reagan either.

Patrick1. I don't want to call you dumb even though you exhibit all the traits, so let's just say you are the “least smart” person on FR.

13 posted on 06/10/2011 8:44:26 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: bwc2221

Not so about the 1980 election.

In fact Will was trashed by Carter supporters and impugned by the media for helping candidate Reagan prepare for the Carter-Reagan debates.

This doesn’t mean that Will is reliable or even relevant these days.


14 posted on 06/10/2011 8:56:35 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: inkling

I was just reading an article in National Review today on the IPAB. It’s exhibit A of why Obamacare must be overturned either judicially or legislatively.


15 posted on 06/10/2011 8:58:53 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule
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To: inkling

INDEED.


16 posted on 06/10/2011 10:09:42 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: okie01
Nonetheless, you would be advised to read this. Obamacare is even worse than we thought.

I'm sure there's nothing in this article that we don't already know and that Rush Limbaugh hasn't already covered in detail.

George Will is a RINO Washington insider. I don't need to read his columns. He's not nearly as intelligent as he thinks he is.

17 posted on 06/10/2011 10:51:06 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Patrick1

Will: Oxford-Princeton; Palin: Idaho. You really don’t need to go beyond that to understand Georgie’s opinion about Sarah.


18 posted on 06/10/2011 10:56:57 PM PDT by Spartan79
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To: okie01
Nonetheless, you would be advised to read this. Obamacare is even worse than we thought.

Who's "we?"

I'm quite sure Obamacare is exactly as bad as I thought it was, without having to read it, or take George Will's word for it.

Such is the freedom of having a moral basis not subject to the whims of experts, pundits or policy wonks.

19 posted on 06/10/2011 11:00:58 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (I'm sick of damn idiots)
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To: inkling
Experts are like Weiner, Edwards, Swartzeneger, Barney and the Toon....

Ex-Spurts

20 posted on 06/10/2011 11:16:44 PM PDT by spokeshave (Obamas approval ratings are so low, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the USA.)
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To: inkling

George Will gave his elitist official inside the beltway FDA seal of approval for Obama and his policies back in 2008. When Sarah Palin long ago pointed out everything George does now, (can we say plagiarism) he dismissed her as stupid and a fool of no substance.

So who was stupid then and is now the fool George?


21 posted on 06/11/2011 12:59:50 AM PDT by Sea Parrot
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To: inkling

“The PPACA repeatedly refers to any IPAB proposal as a “legislative proposal” and speaks of “the legislation introduced” by the IPAB. Each proposal automatically becomes law unless Congress passes — with a three-fifths supermajority required in the Senate — a measure cutting medical spending as much as the IPAB proposal would.”

I’m not a fan of George Will and enjoy skipping his articles. However this I did not know and it is a very interesting fact.


22 posted on 06/11/2011 4:14:51 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: Patrick1

I don’t call him a RINO. He was my intellectual hero growing up. I had Newsweek, USNWP, the WP and Readers Digest to read growing up. I fell out of love with him in the 90’s partially due to his divorce but for other reasons too. I started to first read his stuff with a grain of salt then critically then with contempt.


23 posted on 06/11/2011 4:19:45 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: P-Marlowe

“I’m sure there’s nothing in this article that we don’t already know and that Rush Limbaugh hasn’t already covered in detail.”

I think you’re wrong about that. If you can find a quote by Rush about the language calling IPAB’s work “legislation” and the super majority required in the Senate I will stand corrected.


24 posted on 06/11/2011 4:22:28 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: P-Marlowe
I'm sure there's nothing in this article that we don't already know and that Rush Limbaugh hasn't already covered in detail.

You would be wrong.

I'm no longer a George will fan, either. But he found something -- well, actually, the Goldwater Institute found it -- that nobody else has yet revealed.

25 posted on 06/11/2011 11:56:29 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: inkling

bttt and forward later


26 posted on 06/11/2011 3:40:38 PM PDT by Pagey (B. Hussein Obama has no experience running anything, except his pedestrian mouth.)
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To: ZULU

As Mark Levin said today when Will is good, he is very good (when bad, he is very bad), this is good article. With the exception of possibility that IPAB may be constitutional (Levin, a constitutional expert disagrees with Will), it is a good article according to Levin.


27 posted on 06/13/2011 10:17:29 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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