Skip to comments.Leader of Brady Group Gloats About Coming Gun Ban ‘Proposals’
Posted on 06/11/2011 5:33:46 PM PDT by neverdem
PHOENIX, AZ --(Ammoland.com)- Paul Helmke, ringleader of the aggressive Brady Anti-Gun gang, released this statement about the “bipartisan” gun-control meeting the White House scheduled.
(Note: The “White House” is a building and can’t do anything; the person responsible in that building remains unidentified but appears to be Steve Croley) The meeting only included people who want to ban guns, an indicator of the plans, according to unidentifiable experts.
“On Tuesday, I attended a meeting at the U.S. Department of Justice with representatives from the White House, the Vice-President’s office, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), the FBI, and others from the Obama Administration, along with leaders from the gun violence prevention movement, to discuss how to reach the goals outlined in the President’s statement. Officials from the Administration indicated that this was the first of what they hoped would be a series of discussions. They said they had not settled on, or excluded, any relevant proposals.
“I began the discussion by listing basic measures that the Brady Campaign, and others, felt could make a difference. The list included: a strong background check system, with good and complete records of dangerous and irresponsible people, applicable to all commercial gun sales; more tools for law enforcement to stop trafficking in illegal guns; increasing the number and type of military-style weapons, including "assault clips," that should not be readily available to civilians, like machine-guns and fully automatic weapons. Administration officials then asked questions. My colleagues and I gave examples and arguments for legislative, administrative, and voluntary policies that could help reduce the bloodshed.
“The meeting lasted more than 90 minutes. Having this many Administration representatives spend this much time on this initial meeting signaled to me that the president is serious. He wants to do something meaningful about gun violence. After meeting with others, including law enforcement and "gun rights" groups [note: no such meetings are known to have been held], Obama’s representatives will be presenting specific proposals. We hope those will include all the "sound and effective steps" that the president called for in his statement.”
No word has leaked on what or how the anti-rights leaders will attempt to implement their programs. Rumors are swirling that every effort will be made to avoid going through Congress, since it is well recognized that the peoples’ representatives there will not tolerate rights denial programs. Avoiding Congress would be a travesty bordering on treason, but since it is just one of many such moves, objections might be slight, and arrests of the perpetrators seem unlikely.
One leading gun-rights advocate, who was not invited to the “open” discussions, opined, “A seat at the table would be good, but only if used to present reasonable ideas — gun curricula, self-defense protections, justice for civil-rights violators (just injecting civil rights into the lexicon would be good), gun-free zones vs. make-believe gun-free zones, the debilitating effects of hoplophobia and failure to recognize or treat the sufferers, and have the antis dismiss such common-sense measures; also a chance to stand against the anti-rights movement and cast them as such. I’m not sure which gun-rights leader is best suited to that. I’d love to have a crack at it, but I wasn’t invited.” An opportunity to do any of that was considered unlikely.
There are serious issues American gun owners want discussed, such as restoration of rights, national concealed-carry reciprocity, cracking down on states like New Jersey, New York and California that routinely violate gun owners rights, lifting the administration’s ban on importation of historic WWII-era rifles, reining in the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, especially the Phoenix office and its Fast and Furious and GunWalker operations, and the nomination of anti-gun rights Andrew Traver to head BATFE.
Plans to strip Americans of their guns, either in whole cloth or with a thousand cuts, are deep secrets at both the center of the U.S. government, and at the United Nations, which are known to be working in concert to attain those goals. We’ll be watching.
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And it’s going to take all those illegal guns off the streets and out of the hands of gangs. Yep.
It would seem we are to be snowed under with a
blizzard of anti-gun legislation and Czar/Executive
orders. Look for it.
I for one would like to see the minutes of this meeting,
transparency would demand it.
A former Republican mayor of Fort Wayne Indiana.
It appears to me that most of the gun crimes reported in the news involve blacks or Hispanics. Before I believe that Government can actually reduce crime by taking away arms from honest law biding citizens, let them disarm the criminals that are committing most of the gun crimes and then come and talk to me about giving up my right to self protection.
Before the police state Nazis like the Brady crowd can take over, they’ve got to get our guns.
Please, try to take the Guns!!
Yea, Operation Fast a Furious was soooooo successful that they want to repeat it all over!
Do you think so? If the armed citizenry hasn't already fought back, what will make them do so? Cojones are more important than guns, and I wonder how much of those, collectively, our feminized society has.
NRA how is your backing Democrats working for you?
They where stupid for doing that, and a lot of people told them so. In a situation where the Dem has a better pro-gun record than the Repub, the NRA should not make an endorsement. However, this article clearly states that Obama will do everything he can outside of Congress, which would tell him to shove it on gun control.
While they Gloat...I BLOAT...
Corrupt anti-American, unAmerican bastards.
It’s a federal offense for ANY federally funded Fed. Gov. agency to engage in lobbying.
Nearly all the agencies involved in this cabal are federally funded!
So they are above the law, but WE must comply, even if the “Law” is unconstitutional.
Would be nice to see someone call them out on this, dare I say it, conspiracy to deprive Americans of a clearly elucidated right?
The whole Obama crew are nothing but a bunch of America hating homos.
They’re going to do it through treaty policy, which doesn’t have to be ratified to be accepted as internationally binding. Congress doesn’t matter any more.
It’s a bang or get banged world.
There is no such thing as "bipartisan" for this issue. There are only Americans and anti-americans. Taking the good with the bad is part of being free. If you don't like guns then get the hell out of our country.
Okay, General Batrachian.
Where do we muster? Who’s the CO? Which company and platoon do we report to?
Blowhards like you love to cut down American patriots because we haven’t rolled guillotines down Pennsylvania Avenue. If you took a historical measure, you’d discover that it took the Founders 25 years - 1750 to 1775 - to organize, find leadership and make a plan to take on the British.
Twenty-six states have an organized state militia. And I’ll bet that you’re not a member of any of them.
Apropos of nothing, everybody dies of something. Thanks neverdem.
organization shmorganization. When this country hit’s it’s tipping point, every man, woman, child, and small dog will be a target. Especially the small dogs.
Militias are outdated. Look around the world,, leaderless resistance is far better. It’s extremely difficult to roll up. If you give up the luxury of a leader giving orders for this or that plan,,,you wind up with a movement that is much more to be feared.
Obama Second Amendment. “A well regulated population of slaves being needed to preserve the Communist Party. The right of elite Party Members tp bear arms shall not be infringed.”
what the heck are you babbling about? Which patriots am I cutting down? For your information, dimwit, I was a reservist until I was forced out by health problems, and that was not so long ago. I don’t know what you’re responding to. Sheesh.
Calling partisan meetings to whip up support for a planned E.O. or other Administration action is something Obama has done a lot, ee.g. his "stakeholder" meetings on Obamacare and on "reform" of IRA's and 401(k)'s (seizure of private retirement assets).
The Bolsheviks used to call these kinds of meetings "soviets".
That is both a criminal and civil offense.
Gunowners should file a class action suit against them all, strip them of their funds and lay waste to this crap once and for all. A group of 80,000,000 (or so) plaintifs should carry some weight.
I’m pouring lots of butter on my popcorn.
And PLEASE... get these "proposals" out there in the runup to the 2012 elections!
Korwin’s a good man.
I agree. “Unintended Consequences” tells the story. A must read. Henry Bowman was right.
One of the items on the gun grabbers wish list is “good and complete records of dangerous and irresponsible people.”
the dims are very emboldended with an acting president who has no regard for the Constitution.
So, basically, the NRA should become a de-facto arm of the Republican Party?
No f%*&ing way.
We’re trying to get more Democrats to side with us on 2A issues, so withholding endorsements simply because they’re Democrats is just stupid.
A Class action lawsuit? No, it needs to be a Criminal complaint!
I don't care if I see ONE DIME in compensatory damages. I want my Rights back and I no longer want to live in fear of being shot by government agents for simply putting those Rights into practice.
I am really surprised that some pro gun nutcase hasn’t yet flipped out and shot Helmke or Brady the same way the dude took out the Congresswoman in Arizona last month.
>>No word has leaked on what or how the anti-rights leaders will attempt to implement their programs. Rumors are swirling that every effort will be made to avoid going through Congress, since it is well recognized that the peoples representatives there will not tolerate rights denial programs. Avoiding Congress would be a travesty bordering on treason, but since it is just one of many such moves, objections might be slight, and arrests of the perpetrators seem unlikely.<<
Communist and Muslim supporters should take note of this statement:
WHAT IS A PATRIOT?
PATRIOTS are not “Revolutionaries” trying to overthrow the government of the United States.
PATRIOTS are “Counter-Revolutionaries” trying to prevent the government of the United States from overthrowing the Constitution of the United States. - Unknown Author
I don't think the dude who shot Giffords and the others...was a pro gun advocate.
He was/is just nuts.
As I've pointed out for many, many years -- if we gun-owners were 1/10th the hairy-backed, knuckle-draggers they paint us to be, they would have been dead long ago.
Here's a thought, maybe the DOJ should stop the BATFE from trafficking in illegal firearms for a start.
>Where do we muster? Whos the CO? Which company and platoon do we report to?<
>Blowhards like you love to cut down American patriots because we havent rolled guillotines down Pennsylvania Avenue. If you took a historical measure, youd discover that it took the Founders 25 years - 1750 to 1775 - to organize, find leadership and make a plan to take on the British.<
>>Militias are outdated. Look around the world,, leaderless resistance is far better. Its extremely difficult to roll up. If you give up the luxury of a leader giving orders for this or that plan,,,you wind up with a movement that is much more to be feared.<<
When you organize military type units, sure you have fantastic firefights but who is it that gets killed? The men who decided that the firefight/war was required for defense of the nation or the patriots who love the nation?
If the same men had decided to take out the treasonous leader and the political crowd of the opposing force would that make the needed changes in how business is conducted? More than likely it would.
So now you get down to the issue of do you inform/warn them that if they don’t change their ways, they are going to experience a swift drop in body temperature or do you just go ahead and do it?
Where do you draw the line that such and such behavior is worthy of a quiet removal from Office? No public display of the bodies is required. The family will understand that broadcasts on the evening news should be kept to two short sentences. “X and XX was killed last night. We are leaving town this afternoon.”
Lots of questions, huh?
I didn’t mean to imply that he was pro-gun. I apologize.
Absolutely so. To quote the immortal words of Henry Bowman, "If you see something that needs doing, do it." Anyone who needs a playbook at this late date isn't even in the game.
Agreed. But we should welcome stragglers. We'll need as many as we can get if we want our Constitutionally limited Federal Republic back...
Which is what I've been saying on here for a long time. Nobody did anything after the federal government passed farming laws, or all of those unconstitutional firearms laws. Nobody took a stand then, and I doubt nobody will take a stand today.
How about NFA ‘34? That was enacted far more than 25 years ago, and people still did nothing.
This is not the country George Washington fought for anymore, and it makes me sad to say it.
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