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To: ArrogantBustard

Condee Rice wanted massive spying on Israel. Should we show such putative spies zero mercy, too? Treason means, per the US Constitution, making common cause with the US’ enemies, taking up arms against the US, or giving aid and comfort to its enemies. It’s undeniable that Pollard sold some secrets to the Soviet Union, which constituted treason. But the Soviet Union is no more, and the damage he did there is now moot. His other acts of espionage were for a friend of the US, and one of them saved the world from the threat of a nuclear Saddam Hussein. The one should cancel the other, imho. Now go ahead and flame me. I’ve got things to do.


15 posted on 06/11/2011 11:26:19 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5
Stuff and nonsense.

POS Pollard was a natural-born citizen of these United States. He accepted a position of trust in the service of these United States, his native land.

He then betrayed his native land to one or more foreign powers.

He's a traitor and a spy. He can rot in his medium security prison for the duration of his sentence.

An intelligence agent is not a spy. An intelligence agent works for his country, to gain information about foreign countries. A spy sells out his own country to foreign countries. The former is honourable and patriotic. The latter dishonest and a traitor. Pollard is a spy; a liar and a traitor.

Folks who have trouble figuring out their allegiance and loyalty should not be granted access to nationally sensitive information, and should stay the hell out of the military, intelligence, and diplomatic communities.

17 posted on 06/11/2011 11:37:01 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Eleutheria5
I see that you are flying an Israeli flag.

Are you a citizen of Israel?

18 posted on 06/11/2011 11:38:06 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Eleutheria5
Should we show such putative spies zero mercy, too?

No, you shouldn't.

21 posted on 06/11/2011 11:50:45 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Eleutheria5
We have to keep an eye on Israel. Did you forget the USS Liberty?
A clearly marked United States ship savaged by the Israel's
Still so many unanswered questions there, after all these years.
Not to mention many Navy crewman killed in an unprovoked attack on a friend. They had lives to live, family that loved them, and NO chance to say good by.
27 posted on 06/12/2011 5:20:30 AM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: Eleutheria5
It’s undeniable that Pollard sold some secrets to the Soviet Union, which constituted treason. But the Soviet Union is no more, and the damage he did there is now moot.

This argument makes no sense. Should an American who spied for Hitler have been freed and forgiven because the Third Reich ultimately fell?

34 posted on 06/12/2011 7:18:55 AM PDT by rogue yam
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