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If God Is So Just ....
Sunday, June 12, 2011 | cc

Posted on 06/12/2011 2:07:34 AM PDT by canuck_conservative

... why does he let the creeps succeed?

An outright fraud like Barack Obama gets elected, keeps spreading his lies and destruction, and keeps living the high life, with no penalty - on the contrary, all he gets is widespread praise for being so great. Bill Clinton gets worldwide "respect and adulation" as some sort of elder statesman, laughing all the way. Sandy Berger is a brazen thief, yet suffered no penalty. And on and on, every day....

Meanwhile, good people like Sarah Palin are routinely trashed and ridiculed, while their attackers endure no consequences, and are even rewarded - Joy Behar has her own show, for Pete's sake! Olberman is allowed back. Weiner gets a free pass for his creepy behavior. And Herman Cain will get trashed, with his attackers again getting off scot-free.

Where's the damn justice? And don't give me the line about "it'll be settled in the afterlife", these moral violations occurred in THIS world, why aren't they squared up in this world too?

Does this mean God isn't fair and just? Or maybe there's really no God at all?

I WANT to beleieve, but after what I've seen in the last few years (and continue to see now) I'm so confused and angry. Have I just been lied-to all these years??


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This has been on my mind for awhile, and I finally had to get it out.

Would love to get a satifying answer.

1 posted on 06/12/2011 2:07:39 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

Read Job.

God loves us all, even barry.

He gave us free will, which means he allows Satan to create liberals. If everyone always was “right” then how would we know when we have made a moral choice or not?

In the same way we elected Ronald Magnus Reagan (and the Bushes who were, overall the right people at the right time) and, more recently, the 2010 Tea Party slam, God expects us to TCB ourselves. When we ask for His intervention, we ask for wisdom and clarity in our thinking, not lightning from Above to lay our “enemies” low.

Intercession prayers are to request relief from suffering — not vanquishing it.


2 posted on 06/12/2011 2:14:03 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: canuck_conservative
"Have I just been lied-to all these years??"

Don't know, Canuck. But I struggle every day with the same questions.

3 posted on 06/12/2011 2:14:56 AM PDT by eCSMaster (We will fight for America and it starts here in Madison, WI. It starts here. It starts now.)
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To: canuck_conservative; shibumi

God’s plans are not our plans and His timeline is not our timeline.

All of this is happening for a reason.

You are an important part of that reason.

Imagine how many others are feeling exactly the same way you do right now and will express their dismay at the injustice of it all at the polls in ‘12.

Until then, pray fervently for God’s mercy upon our nation.

It is my belief that God Himself will have to intervene, whether directly or via His children if America is to survive.

A lot of repentance for our nation’s sins can’t hurt, either.

Hopefully, someone with a better answer will come along, soon.

I’m not really worthy to be speaking on God’s behalf.


4 posted on 06/12/2011 2:18:58 AM PDT by Salamander (I wear my sunglasses at night.)
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To: freedumb2003

And there is the better answer I’d hoped for...:)


5 posted on 06/12/2011 2:20:01 AM PDT by Salamander (I wear my sunglasses at night.)
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To: canuck_conservative
It means physical life is not where the justice is.

Stalin lived a very long, very comfortable life.

That's not what matters. And I'm not even talking about the afterlife. I'm talking about peace of mind and quality. Above-mentioned Stalin, while he had physical comfort, had to worry every moment about being deposed or assassinated. Not fun.

And then there IS the topic of the afterlife.

6 posted on 06/12/2011 2:20:14 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Anthony Weiner is a little cocky.)
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To: canuck_conservative

Watch and learn.


7 posted on 06/12/2011 2:21:53 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: canuck_conservative
.. why does he let the creeps succeed?

He didn't. We did. We must work to stop it from happening again.
8 posted on 06/12/2011 2:24:38 AM PDT by wolfpat (Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to be always a child. -- Cicero)
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To: Lazamataz

Yup! Poor old Joe.

Everytine he heard somebody say “I’d hit it!” he had to wonder if they were talking about *HIM*.


9 posted on 06/12/2011 2:24:41 AM PDT by shibumi (Ego Nunquam Ubi Sub Ubi!)
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To: canuck_conservative

Isn’t because our faith must be tested?

Be thankful they’re not feeding us to the lions. That’s the way I try to look at it.


10 posted on 06/12/2011 2:35:03 AM PDT by LibWhacker (I)
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To: canuck_conservative
It is pretty simple really.

Its called free will. Either we have it or we don't.

We do, and it comes at a very high price. But without it, life is meaningless.

Without free will you are simply a cog in a larger machine performing its designed function with no choice. You can do no right or wrong. You are just following a preprogrammed script.

With free will you have a choice. With those choices come consequences. With free will comes the testing of ones character, ones individual struggle to overcome evil.

It as simple as that...

At least that's my 2 cents...

11 posted on 06/12/2011 2:35:16 AM PDT by DB
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To: canuck_conservative

Scripture says Israel was always given the King she deserved. We cannot blame God for the millions of babies we have murdered. We cannot blame God for the millions of dollars that we have spent supporting the “Hollywood” agenda spewed forth in it’s films. We cannot blame God for being a nation hell bent on breaking all of His Ten Commandments. Do you not see, we have made this mess not God!

He gave us a way to live righteously, to follow His Commandments. He said those who would blessings would overtake their efforts. Those who rejected His Commandments would be overtaken by curses. We have done this to ourselves. The church has been and is weak and impotent. We have not walked in righteousness because of so much deception and dependence on man made doctrines and traditions. We have been rendered weak and impotent. A strong church could stand up and turn away this darkness that has overrun our country and society.

May God help us repent and return to HIM. But please don’t blame God...He has left man to his free will choices and these choices are the momentum behind our problems, not God/Yahweh.


12 posted on 06/12/2011 2:39:36 AM PDT by ladyL
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To: canuck_conservative

Scripture says Israel was always given the King she deserved. We cannot blame God for the millions of babies we have murdered. We cannot blame God for the millions of dollars that we have spent supporting the “Hollywood” agenda spewed forth in it’s films. We cannot blame God for being a nation hell bent on breaking all of His Ten Commandments. Do you not see, we have made this mess not God!

He gave us a way to live righteously, to follow His Commandments. He said those who would blessings would overtake their efforts. Those who rejected His Commandments would be overtaken by curses. We have done this to ourselves. The church has been and is weak and impotent. We have not walked in righteousness because of so much deception and dependence on man made doctrines and traditions. We have been rendered weak and impotent. A strong church could stand up and turn away this darkness that has overrun our country and society.

May God help us repent and return to HIM. But please don’t blame God...He has left man to his free will choices and these choices are the momentum behind our problems, not God/Yahweh.


13 posted on 06/12/2011 2:39:36 AM PDT by ladyL
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To: canuck_conservative

Psalm 73


14 posted on 06/12/2011 2:40:47 AM PDT by Chaguito
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To: canuck_conservative
This is where the Old Testament really gives understanding and comfort if it is studied enough; many times God used various people and even nations for his purposes. Though it is a history, history itself teaches.
15 posted on 06/12/2011 2:41:41 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Conservative Christian Capitalists - I encourage you to visit my Profile)
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To: canuck_conservative

Your in good company brother most of the Prophets asked God the same thing - why do the good suffer and the wicked prosper? Song of Solomon, Job and Jeremiah might give you some light but the real question is why do I prosper at times when I do wrong things? and maybe - who says I am good?

Mel


16 posted on 06/12/2011 2:55:42 AM PDT by melsec
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To: canuck_conservative

Creation’s story plays out like a drama on purpose (God’s purpose). There is an accounting at the end. It’s good that people are disgusted. That means God is acting in those people. Be still and know that He is God.


17 posted on 06/12/2011 2:56:36 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: canuck_conservative
1. It might be a worn cliche, but it still applies -- all that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing. That includes 0, Willie Jeff, Barney Fag, and the whole list of leeches and parasites. When you saw the momentum moving toward 0 being elected in 2008, you . . . did what?

2. God gave Israel a king because they demanded one -- and they then had to suffer the consequences. The government gives handouts and services because so many people demand them, and the nation has to suffer the consequences.

3. When you ask God to punish someone, you are placing your judgement and agenda over His in your heart. You are, in reality, asking God to curse someone. Even if you are doubly convinced the person deserves it, it is still not a good idea. 4. An analogy: When I take my dog to the vet, the dog doesn't understand why the otherwise nice man hurts him (gives him a shot). Nor does he directly connect the pain of the shot with feeling better later. That is because the concept and knowledge of the vet is too far beyond my puppy's intellectual grasp. In a like manner, when God causes -- or allows -- things which bring us pain, the concept and knowledge of God is so far beyond our intellectual grasp that we cannot necessarily understand, or always connect, the pain with a later benefit. And possibly, the benefit might not be for us, but for God.

Just my .02. But keep in mind -- I don't present myself as a Bible scholar or supremely insightful kind of guy -- these are just ideas I've ginned up while thinking about the same questions you asked.

18 posted on 06/12/2011 2:59:08 AM PDT by Quiller (When you're fighting to survive, there is no "try" -- there is only do, or do not.)
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To: canuck_conservative

So you want God to be “just” and stamp down all those sinners. If you really want that then prepare to be stomped. We are all sinners and fall short of where God wants us.

God looks at us individually. He wants a personal relationship. So it is best not to worry about others and their relationship with God, but at your own.

As far as the bad guys getting their way, then look at doing something about it. I know some guys that did just that, like Amos, Joel, Isaiah, Jeremiah... Or a newer version call Jim Robinson. You can still make a difference.

Meanwhile, I will keep thanking God that he does not exercise justice to me but loves me in spite of all I do that displeases Him.


19 posted on 06/12/2011 3:12:03 AM PDT by KeyWest (Help stamp out taglines! They are obamanations.)
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To: canuck_conservative

Bflr


20 posted on 06/12/2011 3:12:40 AM PDT by Former War Criminal (My senior Senator [who served in Vietnam and Rhode Island] said so.)
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To: canuck_conservative

I know it is hard to keep thinking, “God is Just.”

I ponder it nearly everyday lately and we’re not yet practicing our religion underground like they are in the Middle East.

Some say to read Job. God permitted Satan to test Job. Job didn’t choose his situation through bad choices or sinful ways. God permitted it, God chose it for him.

I ponder the prophets and the positions they were required to fulfill for God’s just will to be done.

The Bible tells us if our name’s are not written in the book of life, we will not get into heaven. Names are slain from the book. God already knows the outcome and yet here we are considering ourselves as having ‘free will’ and a ‘just God.’ If there is a prophecy to be fulfilled is there free will?

Revelations tells us when the book of life is opened on judgment day it is our deeds that will be used to judge us. Not the blood of Christ. If your name isn’t in the book...lake of fire for you! The book is the book of life...you want your name in that book. Not vice-a-versa as it seems some Christians think.

The prophecy of end times says there will be a great falling away. I believe this is what we are witnessing. But it raises the question if it is God’s will...that many perish into the lake of fire, who are deceived on purpose to fulfill His will...how is that just?

It is the same type of question I often ask about God, Jesus, and Judas. Judas had to “choose” what he did to fulfill the prophecy...saint or sinner?

The ‘free will’ argument doesn’t launder very well with me. Some must choose sin in order to fulfill prophecy. The Bible is riddled with such situations and stories of God allowing this or that...


21 posted on 06/12/2011 3:13:16 AM PDT by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: canuck_conservative

The Bible predicts what is going on; how evil will be called good and good will be called evil. It talks of the decline of world-wide societies and globalism. In the Old Testament, God favored some good men and trounced some disobedient men. In the New Testament, we have only two tasks - to love God, and to love each other - He will decide when to take the others to task. Jesus told His folks “resist not evil” - let the evil-doers have their way. Our job is to carry the message of His love and the path to salvation - final handling of evil-doers is His job.


22 posted on 06/12/2011 3:25:20 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: canuck_conservative

If God were fair and just wouldn’t things be better?

But

If God were unfair and unjust wouldn’t things be worse?

The guarantees are not in this life, they come after.


23 posted on 06/12/2011 3:30:42 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: canuck_conservative
God is good. Man is evil. Man constantly fight against the goodness of God including trashing of good people.

But in time their foot shall slip.

Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God>

24 posted on 06/12/2011 3:31:37 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: canuck_conservative
My 2 cents worth.
It's FREE.
Things here will never make sense. We are here for such a short time. There is a creed that alcoholics live by. "God grant me the serenity to accept the things that I can not change, to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference." It is good for all of us.
GOD could make us all puppets. That would be no fun. We could always elect strict conservatives, nobody would know how bad liberals really are. I believe we wind up with people like ZERO to show us their plans will never work. Just talking about how bad their plans are is not the same. A lot of voters don't remember JIMMAH. Now we have JIMMAH2.
All we can do is trust in GOD pray that he continues to watch over us and live our life in a way that GOD will continue to keep us safe.
Read everything you can on World War 2. We came dangerously close to losing that war. Think about it, Japan destroyed our Navy in one fell swoop. We had to completely rebuild our Navy, one ship at a time. It wasn't easy. We had to fight the Germans in Europe, that war didn't go easy, we came very close to losing. Only some dumb moves by Hitler that defy logic helped. (GOD had to have been involved) D-Day was almost a disaster, but only because our brave soldiers (this includes all Navy, Marines allies etc.)would not give up and fought when the odds were against them.
I don't profess to know how GOD works, but I have learned to trust him.
As for Slick and the other "BAD" people. I have to remember the "Judge Not". We are all imperfect and make mistakes. Slick will have to answer for his mistakes and I will have to answer for mine.
25 posted on 06/12/2011 3:32:26 AM PDT by DeaconRed (If I knew then what I know now. I would have studied harder in school. . . . .)
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To: canuck_conservative

As a friend once told me:

God takes His time, but He collects His debts.


26 posted on 06/12/2011 3:32:48 AM PDT by Vesuvian
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To: canuck_conservative
Any thing I might consider a “God” doesn't know we exist. Much less the workings of a fraudulent hack like Obama.
27 posted on 06/12/2011 3:33:31 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: canuck_conservative
God didn't allow creeps to succeed. We did.

If you lived in a dark pitch black cave for a decade and suddenly a bright light appears, chances are you would cover your eyes from the light because you are no longer used to seeing light. You forgot what it was, or never knew what it was depending on your age. The light hurts your eyes and you want it to go away. You might throw stones at it hoping the stones would break the light. You find out stones have no power over light.
The light is Gov Sarah Palin.
Thus the attacks on her from the children of the darkness. Gov Sarah Palin is no mistake. She's walking through fire. I think Jesus went though the same (In a different context)

Those that get away doing "stuff" do they truly get away with it? Their name is tarnished. They will be remembered for the bad things they did. We won't suffer but their children will inthe next generation.

God is everywhere. He's in control.
Stand back and look at everything that is happening now. Do you see the cleansing? Do you see secret evil deeds being exposed? This is God in action summoned by the Prayer Warriors.

Think of it this way...everyone gets a turn. The evil ones were having a party, enjoying the wealth of the land. Soon that will end. The Good ones will overcome and soon enjoy the wealth of God's land.

In these past three years I've seen many turn back to God and many turn away. Life goes on. Learn to enjoy the little things of life which were created by our Savior.

This year I have been blessed with barn swallows nesting in my mudroom and barn. Robins nesting in my garage. Bees savoring the propolis off my fir trees, a toad dwelling in a hole in my foundation. Rabbits in my cellar and chickens in my pantry. Groundhogs roto-tilling the soil. The fruit trees have blossomed abundantly and there are tiny peaches in the three year old peach tree.

Yes, God is in control and is blessing us. We just have to pay attention to what the blessings are.

Spend your time and energy focusing on the good people. This will give them more power.

28 posted on 06/12/2011 3:40:06 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: canuck_conservative

“I WANT to beleieve, but after what I’ve seen in the last few years (and continue to see now) I’m so confused and angry. Have I just been lied-to all these years??”
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

It is not so much that you and I and the world have been lied to as it is simply the LEFT is seeking to implement “Cultural Marxism” on the world. One of the tools they are using to do this is “Critical Theory” - nothing that a LIBERAL does is wrong and must never be criticized and everthing that the CONSERVATIVE/s does must be attacked and is always wrong and is always labeled as Facist and Nazi.

You and anyone else reading this who has not read about “Critical Theory” and “Cultural Marxism” as developed at the “Frankfort school” needs to Google these phrases. Look for articles written by Gerald Atkinson or just google his name +Frankfort school.

Once you are aware of the playbook of the Left, spread the word to others...


29 posted on 06/12/2011 3:44:03 AM PDT by LaMudBug
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To: canuck_conservative

The Old Testament book of Habakkuk addresses the very problem you present. The book of Job as well. Especially the last 3 chapters of Job. He is confronted by God after spending the whole book of pleading his own innocence. Read God’s response.

When we compare ourselves to others we can find some “good” and some “not so good.” However, when measured against the perfect Son of God, which is how God will judge us all, we fall short. All have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God.

All men, including you and me, stand in need of God’s forgiveness. May God have mercy on us.


30 posted on 06/12/2011 3:45:07 AM PDT by sola gracia
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To: canuck_conservative

Here is the answer, although it may not be satisfying to you. Was it God that elected Obama? Does God give all those miscreants you named adulation, free passes, and TV shows?
No, its other human beings that cause all these violations of morality to occur and allow them to continue, and its up to us to deal out fairness and justice to the miscreants in THIS world. Its up to us to figure out how best to do that in this world.


31 posted on 06/12/2011 3:51:51 AM PDT by ngat
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To: canuck_conservative

What you’re seeing isn’t new—it’s just different players and it’s happening in our time and place.

Ours is an ugly, fallen world.


32 posted on 06/12/2011 3:54:46 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: canuck_conservative

33 posted on 06/12/2011 3:57:22 AM PDT by Bean Counter (Your what hurts??)
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To: EBH
"Some say to read Job. God permitted Satan to test Job. Job didn’t choose his situation through bad choices or sinful ways. God permitted it, God chose it for him."

I wonder - If Job knew beforehand what was going to happen to him - all the pain and suffering - plus the restoration at the end - would he have chosen to accept or reject the trial?

In my case, it keeps getting worse. I see no hope of restoration.

34 posted on 06/12/2011 4:05:32 AM PDT by eCSMaster (We will fight for America and it starts here in Madison, WI. It starts here. It starts now.)
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To: canuck_conservative

Matthew 24:4-13

4 Jesus told them, “Don’t let anyone mislead you. 5 For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Messiah.’ They will lead many astray. 6 And wars will break out near and far, but don’t panic. Yes, these things must come, but the end won’t follow immediately. 7 The nations and kingdoms will proclaim war against each other, and there will be famines and earthquakes in many parts of the world. 8 But all this will be only the beginning of the horrors to come. 9 “Then you will be arrested, persecuted, and killed. You will be hated all over the world because of your allegiance to me. 10 And many will turn away from me and betray and hate each other. 11 And many false prophets will appear and will lead many people astray. 12 Sin will be rampant everywhere, and the love of many will grow cold. 13 But those who endure to the end will be saved.


35 posted on 06/12/2011 4:06:15 AM PDT by quesney
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To: canuck_conservative

We live in the world WE have built. God stepped aside to allow us to go our own way (free will). Where we are today is what WE have wrought, not our Father.

When His son returns, there will be a reckoning, and then God’s justice shall prevail. Until then, we must endure our burden, knowing that we carry only a small share of the Truth.


36 posted on 06/12/2011 4:09:12 AM PDT by Don W (You can forget what you do for a living when your knees are in the breeze.)
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To: canuck_conservative

If the first five words of your question are wrong, how do expect to get a right answer?

God is just. Period.

It is the rest of creation that falls short.

And by the way, no one is promised a rose garden.


37 posted on 06/12/2011 4:16:16 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: canuck_conservative

God is Truth.

One of the reasons, aside from a fallen nature, that sin exists is because we don’t view sin as seriously as God does. The only way God can show us just how bad sin is is to not protect us from our own stupidity and foolishness.


38 posted on 06/12/2011 4:18:54 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: canuck_conservative; All

I had to be the one to bring you more bad news but........it ain’t going to get any better. People often think everything should go well here on plant earth but this is not our home. Unless there is a major out pouring of the Holy Spirit and people turning from their wicked ways, it is only down hill from here. Yes I am an End Timer and think we are closer to the end.
Just as the bible talks about, people are deceived (how else could a women walk in to kill the baby in her womb). Look at Romans 11:8 “as it is written: God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes so that they could not see and ears so they could not hear.”
or 2 Corinthians 4:3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing or
2 Corinthians 4:4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
Or Ephesians 4:18 They are darkened in their understanding and separated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to the hardening of their hearts.
Pressing on in faith in God is going to be the only thing that makes any sense. The world as we know it is basically going nutz (I do not understand how or why people think or do some of the things they do)...
May they accept the Grace and mercy of God.


39 posted on 06/12/2011 4:22:47 AM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: canuck_conservative

... why does he let the creeps succeed?

Hitler had some world class success for a while there. America has rejected God Culturally and THAT is what facilitated Obozo’s getting into the White House. It was not God who instituted and enforced and complied with and saluted the lie that is PC...it was us. It is up to good men to take responsability do good and to fight Evil. (See the tagline)


40 posted on 06/12/2011 4:23:21 AM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: EBH

“The ‘free will’ argument doesn’t launder very well with me. Some must choose sin in order to fulfill prophecy. The Bible is riddled with such situations and stories of God allowing this or that...”

Not “must choose” but “will choose”. God, as the Author of the dynamic that is Human Nature knows that some will choose against Him. They are no more a puppet or helpless than those who choose with Him.


41 posted on 06/12/2011 4:35:03 AM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: canuck_conservative

Does this mean God isn’t fair and just? Or maybe there’s really no God at all?

****

The answer to your question is simple I see it my local Tea Party members. They want justic but they also do not want to give up ther comfort zone.

Matthew 15:8

8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.

Isaiah 29:13

13 ¶Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:

Eph 6

11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,

20 For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.

21 But that ye also may know my affairs, and how I do, Tychicus, a beloved brother and faithful minister in the Lord, shall make known to you all things:

22 Whom I have sent unto you for the same purpose, that ye might know our affairs, and that he might comfort your hearts.

23 Peace be to the brethren, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

24 Grace be with all them that love our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity. Amen.

Many want the same protection we had in past but the light of Christ is with drawing from the earth and the opposition is increasing reign.

Because so many did nothing

We all heard the saying when good men do nothing

“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” (Edmund Burke)

So much of the history of the struggle between good and evil can be explained by Edmund Burke’s observation. Time and again those who profess to be good seem to clearly outnumber those who are evil, yet those who are evil seem to prevail far too often.

Seldom is it the numbers that determine the outcome, but whether those who claim to be good men are willing to stand up and fight for what they know to be right.

There are numerous examples of this sad and awful scenario being played out over and over again in the scriptures.

Look at all the commandments and moral deacay that has been allowed to take place.

Yet men will say WORDS God, country etc but really don’t want to change their ways nor their hearts.

Conclusion

“Be not deceived; God is not mocked; for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap” (Gal. 6:7). Those who fail or refuse to do good in the face of evil are sowing some dangerous seeds. They are doing nothing good as Jesus commanded them to do; they are helping evil to win and have ceased being good and have become partakers of the evil they did nothing to stop.

Do not allow evil to triumph. Do not sit by and do nothing. Stand up and be counted, speak up against evil and speak out against evil men and their sinful deeds.
http://www.padfield.com/1997/goodmen.html

Jesus said

John 15:12

12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

1 John 4:7

7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

Romans 12:10

10 Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another;

Romans 13:8

8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

when I use excerpts from my faith it causes many to have a melt down and rage and miss the message.

LDS Prophets warn us of the dangers facing America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehD390q9G3k

Many would rather trash The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and recived the mark of the beast than to prepare to come to Zion!

Revelation 19:20

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Revelation 13:17

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
http://lds.org/scriptures/search?lang=eng&type=verse&query=mark+of+the+beast

Come To Zion While Babylon Falls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R9x_um9Cak


42 posted on 06/12/2011 4:35:34 AM PDT by restornu (I really do need to give up my summer cottage in Babylon...Love One Another... God Bless America!)
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To: canuck_conservative

Sometimes truly awful people become convicted of their sins and decide to repent. Other times people ponder events such as you describe and ask themselves the kinds of question you’re asking (or ask themselves the “big questions” in life: why are we here, where are we going, what is the meaning of life, why do bad things happen to good people). As a result of this search for answers many find the truth they are looking for. God uses the circumstances of our lives to draw us to Him.

These people you describe have their reward and it will only be temporal and not eternal. They will pay for what they’ve done and said (and so will I...you too).

If nothing bad ever happened to us why would anyone ever seek God? And, if nothing bad ever happened to us when we become a Christian, people would only become Christians so that nothing bad would ever happen to them.

IF GOD EXISTS and IF Jesus is God’s Son why would God allow His Son to die on the cross? IT WAS NECESSARY...He paid a debt He did not owe because we owe a debt we cannot pay.

Justice requires punishment. His mercy provided the payment.

If God exists = True

and

If Christ = God’s Son

and

If Christ’s Death on Cross = Payment for the sins of the world

then IT MATTERS!

If IT MATTERS

and

If One’s behavior suggests that IT MATTERS = True

then Salvation = True

else

Salvation = False


43 posted on 06/12/2011 4:36:41 AM PDT by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: canuck_conservative
"Would love to get a satifying answer."

Read the book of Ecclesiastes and Job. It's the best you're going to get in this world.

44 posted on 06/12/2011 4:45:11 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: canuck_conservative

Have no fear, canuck. This world is unfolding as it should.

Satan currently has a free hand in this world. This is why God instructs us that we are not part of this world. It is corrupt and we are to be separate. Jesus promised us that the world would hate us (Christians), because it hated him.

Sarah Palin is a Christian, and this is the primary reason for the over-the-top hatred. Remember the vile hatred spewed forth on Bush? Same thing - he is a Christian. The left is full of hate for Christians and become unhinged. Ronald Regan - also a Christian. The left hated him.

Democrats will overlook almost anything, whereas Republicans, who traditionally preserve Christian values, will toss their offending peers.

This is the best explanation I can offer - hope it helps. Whatever you do, don’t doubt for one minute that God is there, in control. He loves all, but must be very saddened by what goes on in this “God forsaken” world. Keep believing, walk the walk, and hold onto a high standard even while the rest of the world sinks into the swamp.


45 posted on 06/12/2011 4:45:35 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: canuck_conservative
“... why does he let the creeps succeed?”

Because we humans insisted it be that way.

He offered to teach/guide us in the good ways...in His ways.

He said ‘you can have anything you want, just don't eat from that tree over there’.

We said ‘we know better than You...eating from that tree is just fine’.

He said ‘ok...then you're on your own...and just like now, you'll make bad choices over and over...I tried to help you but you rejected Me and My direction’.

my 2¢

46 posted on 06/12/2011 4:47:36 AM PDT by mreerm
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To: canuck_conservative
Does this mean God isn't fair and just? Or maybe there's really no God at all?

In all your whining about fair and just do you think God is like Fox news?

Ever think about the concept of the hereafter? Hell? Heaven?

You want the hand of God to satisfy you here and now, and you sound like a teen aged, spoiled, liberal Canadian.

47 posted on 06/12/2011 4:51:06 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages.)
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To: canuck_conservative

Because where sin did abound, Grace did much more abound. He’s letting the chaff grow up with the wheat. But His justice doesn’t sleep. He IS keeping score.


48 posted on 06/12/2011 4:53:29 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: canuck_conservative
I WANT to believe, but...

I don't have an answer for any of your other questions, and I'm not sure anyone else does either. I don't know why things happen the way they do. To ask that question, you might as well ask why God decided to create at all. We will never know the answer to that question here, and even if we did, we probably wouldn't understand it.

I will say this though, God has more faith in us, than we will ever have in him. The fact that we're all still here certainly makes that clear, at least as far as I'm concerned. If you really want to believe, then open your heart, humble yourself, and talk to him. He is always listening, while most of the times, we are not. Sometimes we need a good smack in the head to get our attention, so my advice to you is, if you are truly sincere, don't wait, do it now. He will answer you, but listen with your heart, and not your mind. Be, as a child, and know. All God wants, is for us to love him, and love has no basis in reason.

49 posted on 06/12/2011 4:53:54 AM PDT by csense
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To: canuck_conservative

An outright fraud like Barack Obama gets elected, keeps spreading his lies and destruction, and keeps living the high life, with no penalty -

You assume facts not in evidence.
You have no idea what penalty Obama may be suffering or will suffer for his actions. God acts in his own time not ours and to his will not ours


50 posted on 06/12/2011 4:55:32 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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