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Democrats losing favor with some Latinos
Los Angeles Times ^ | June 11, 2011 | Mark Z. Barabak

Posted on 06/12/2011 3:14:46 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Early this year, Brian Sandoval and Susana Martinez made history. He became Nevada's first Latino governor. In New Mexico, she became the country's first Latina governor.

Just as striking as their breakthrough is their party affiliation: Both are Republicans.

For many in the GOP, the twin victories last November, along with the election of Sen. Marco Rubio in Florida, marked an important step in efforts to mend the party's frayed ties with Latino voters, which have suffered over the last several years of hard-line talk on immigration.

For Democrats, the election of the three was something else: a warning sign at a time when Latino support has grown increasingly vital to the party's success, especially in the battleground states of the Rocky Mountains and desert Southwest.

Sens. Harry Reid of Nevada and Michael Bennet of Colorado each withstood the 2010 Republican wave thanks in good part to Latino support. President Obama is counting on strong Latino turnout to hold on to Nevada, Colorado and New Mexico — states he won in the last White House race — and to expand the 2012 competition to Arizona and, maybe, Texas and Georgia.

"The Republicans, by electing three national Latino leaders, have really challenged the Democratic Party," said former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, until recently one of the highest-ranking Latino Democrats in the country.

"Democrats have to recruit more Latino candidates and they have to start siding with Latinos on redistricting and other issues," Richardson said, "because many Latinos perceive that the party doesn't care enough about electing more Hispanic officials."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; election; hispanic; latino

1 posted on 06/12/2011 3:14:51 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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June 10, 2011: New Mexico abandons efforts to restore Mexican gray wolves "New Mexico's Game Commission on Thursday night voted to stop assisting the federal effort to restore Mexican gray wolves in the Southwest, the latest step by new Republican Gov. Susana Martinez's administration to reverse her state's green course..............

Ranching groups, who complained the predators damaged their cattle and threatened children, were cheered. “It shows support for the rural industries that are under siege right now," said Laura Schneberger, president of the Gila Livestock Growers Assn. “But I don’t know how it will affect us immediately.”

Environmental groups were outraged. "New Mexico's governor sided with an intransigent, wolf-hating livestock industry," said Michael Robinson of the Center for Biological Diversity.

Republicans in Congress have separately proposed legislation to end the wolf re-introduction program, following their successful attempts to end federal supervision of the gray wolf in the northern Rockies.

Martinez has made a point of distancing herself from Richardson's environmental record, which she contended hurt business.

Shortly after taking office this winter, Martinez removed all members of an environmental board which formulated rules limiting emissions. She also overturned regulations that required a 3% cut in industrial greenhouse gas emissions and regulated waste on dairy farms, though the state Supreme Court later overturned those moves, ruling Martinez exceeded her power. [end excerpt]

2 posted on 06/12/2011 3:18:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Now this really is a wise Latina.


3 posted on 06/12/2011 3:19:39 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

LOL. Well, put.


4 posted on 06/12/2011 3:21:26 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

More racism based on identity politics on the part of the media. What difference does it make if they are hispanic? They are Americans. They believe in America which very few of the hsipanic illegals can claim. American citizen hispanic citizens should be ashamed by the pandering of the dems - it does not breed unity but only serves to divide us further.


5 posted on 06/12/2011 4:12:54 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: raybbr

I agree.

But to the Left, your race, gender, age, nationality, sexuality — anything they can use to make you a victim, gives them a soapbox.


6 posted on 06/12/2011 4:14:55 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Good article on the Governor’s efforts!

I don’t know why the Dems continue to feel the Latino voting bloc belongs to them...maybe the illegals but most, if not all Latinos that I’ve had the pleasure to meet and work with are devout Christians and conservative in their views.


7 posted on 06/12/2011 4:39:51 AM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: SueRae

True!

Note the title says “some”.....that would be the smart, conservative, productive, legal Hispanic Americans of Hispanic descent.


8 posted on 06/12/2011 5:06:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I have quite a few hispanic friends...all good, moral people who are strong in their Catholic faith.

They despise Obama mostly for his abortion stance.


9 posted on 06/12/2011 5:25:09 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Go figure... turns out Latinos have hopes and dreams of a better future, eat food, buy gas and want their children to have a better life.

Prosperity is anathema to Obama.

10 posted on 06/12/2011 6:14:58 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: mom4melody
They despise Obama mostly for his abortion stance.

What about all his other stances? Are they OK with those?

11 posted on 06/12/2011 6:22:10 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I live in Florida, and I would say that most of our Hispanic population is pretty conservative.

One of the problems in the media depiction of Hispanics is that they always use LA as their model, where you have large numbers of people who come into the US and immediately become the property of local social services departments, and hence the dysfunctional, life-long constituency of the Democrat party. LA has a very well-developed left that has got its tentacles heavily sunk into the Hispanic community, in part because of the activities of Cesar Chavez in California years ago and the fact that they were coopted by the radical student left of the time.

This has led to things like “La Raza,” a student radical group that is now treated by the press as the spokesman for Hispanics. But it’s not, and doesn’t even speak for those of Mexican descent.


12 posted on 06/12/2011 6:50:58 AM PDT by livius
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I live in Florida, and I would say that most of our Hispanic population is pretty conservative.

In some 20 years, I met loads of non-Cuban Conservative Latinos. Great folks, including my wife who is a a committed conservative.

OTOH, I met quite a few Latinos who's own countries were so corrupt that Bill Clinton looked like a boyscout at the height of his scandals. They simply couldn't understand what the problem was.

End game being we can't group Latinos in one camp or the other. Better for our side, I think, as political opinions can evolve especially during an economic crisis such as we have now.

Cheers!

13 posted on 06/12/2011 6:55:14 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: livius

Thanks for all that truth.


14 posted on 06/12/2011 7:21:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Caipirabob
End game being we can't group Latinos in one camp or the other.

Exactly!

15 posted on 06/12/2011 7:22:50 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Immigrants who work hard and believe in family are learning what DemonRats are all about.


16 posted on 06/12/2011 7:57:01 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: SC_Pete

Let’s hope we can pull our economy out of this Obama nosedive while there still is time.


17 posted on 06/12/2011 8:23:25 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Recently, I spoke with a New York taxi driver who came from Nigeria. He’s rasing his family and going to college at night. He told me he identifies with Republican Party values, “If anyone can’t make it in this country with all its opportunity, you’re lazy.” That’s a direct quote and he didn’t know what my party affiliation was. That’s progress.


18 posted on 06/12/2011 8:50:24 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: Right Wing Assault

No, but being strong Catholics, that’s the most horrendous to most of my friends. None voted for him in the first place.

The black folk I know, however, people at my church and work, all claim to be Christians, but had to vote for the “bro.”

I would say my hispanic friends are being true to their faith, while my black friends may have an unpleasent accounting in their future.


19 posted on 06/12/2011 9:00:55 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

First of all, the Reagan-era federal term “Hispanic” is stupid and means nothing. The majority of the people the term refers to are American citizens of Mexican descent.

They are not monolithic politically. In America, after a generation or two, their politics tend to reflect the local political dominance, as well as their personal situation.

American citizens of Mexican descent also integrate based on whether they live in large Mexican descent communities, which significantly slows down their integration; or live in unsegregated communities, which speeds it up.


20 posted on 06/12/2011 9:03:06 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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....“If anyone can’t make it in this country with all its opportunity, you’re lazy.”...

This is the kind of initiative the Left wants to kill. If they can't get him, they'll work on his kids in public schools and thought social programs meant to "help."

21 posted on 06/12/2011 9:11:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Learning English is paramount.

......which speeds it up.

The Left is all for slowing integration down to a stop.

Can't have that melting pot. No. The Left likes the big buffet to pick and choose from (the victim menu).

22 posted on 06/12/2011 9:16:14 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: mom4melody
No, but being strong Catholics, that’s the most horrendous to most of my friends. None voted for him in the first place. The black folk I know, however, people at my church and work, all claim to be Christians, but had to vote for the “bro.” I would say my hispanic friends are being true to their faith, while my black friends may have an unpleasent accounting in their future.

It is the Catholic Hispanics that are the liberal Democrats, the Protestant Hispanics vote roughly 50/50 Republican.

In 2004 Bush got 56% of the Protestant Hispanic vote, and in 2008, McCain/Palin got 48% of the Protestant Hispanic vote.

23 posted on 06/12/2011 10:49:16 AM PDT by ansel12 (Bachmann/Rollins/Romney=destruction for Bachmann, but it sure helps Romney. WHY?)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
First of all, the Reagan-era federal term “Hispanic” is stupid and means nothing.

Actually the government created, and started using it in 1970 under Nixon, not Reagan.

24 posted on 06/12/2011 11:05:18 AM PDT by ansel12 (Bachmann/Rollins/Romney=destruction for Bachmann, but it sure helps Romney. WHY?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Michael Bennet of Colorado each withstood the 2010 Republican wave thanks in good part to Latino support.

Bennet squeeked by, and since then the SOS of CO has confirmed that at least 5,000 voters were illegals, far more than the Tea Party, and very conservative, canidate lost by.

25 posted on 06/12/2011 12:47:46 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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[excerpt] SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) — Cheering crowds in the steamy tropical heat are expected Tuesday when President Barack Obama makes a rare presidential visit to Puerto Rico.

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Democrats see the Puerto Ricans in Florida as a potential counterbalance to the larger, traditionally Republican Cuban-American community in a state Obama needs badly to win a second term.

That’s where this trip comes in.

“I am sure they will be happy about this,” said Pedro Pierluisi, the island’s nonvoting representative in Congress, who has been working to generate for support for Obama on the mainland. “We have lots of Puerto Ricans in central Florida and I know they keep close eyes on Puerto Rico.”

Reaching out to Puerto Ricans is part of a broader effort to court Hispanics, who accounted for more than half the U.S. population increase over the past decade and now number about 50 million. It’s hardly a uniform community, but there are “shared issues” of concern that include support for education, and social services, said Louis DeSipio, a professor at the University of California, Irvine.

The number of people of Puerto Rican descent, the second largest Hispanic group in the U.S. after Mexicans, grew by 36 percent over the past decade to 4.6 million, according the census. The island’s population fell by 2 percent during that time as people fled a dismal economy.

Puerto Ricans tend to be less interested in immigration overhaul because they are U.S. citizens and can move freely back and forth between the island and the mainland, but as migrants who often need to learn to speak English and face other challenges they have similar experiences, said DeSipio, chairman of Chicano-Latino Studies at the California school.

“To the extent that the president talks about issues of bringing Puerto Ricans into the U.S. mainstream that will certainly resonate with other Latino communities and immigrant communities generally,” he said. [end excerpt]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-ap-pr-obama-06122011-20110612,0,6565861.story


26 posted on 06/12/2011 1:27:10 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

There are a lot of Puerto Ricans in Florida, and we also get a lot of visitors from PR.

However, I think this guy is fixating on Newyoricans. That is, people who were the children or grandchildren of the “Marine Tigers,” people brought in on planes of that name to work in various NYC industries during and shortly after WWII. When the economy dwindled in the 60s, both blacks and Puerto Ricans were told by the Great Society that they actually were going to be life-long clients, and way too few of them stood up and kicked the government in the teeth.

Still, most Puerto Ricans who climbed upwards (in many cases thanks to the Catholic schools) are now married to other Catholics, mostly Irish and some Italians. One of the problems is that they are so assimilated that nobody even counts a New York Rivera or Hernandez as Hispanic anymore. It’s a problem only in terms of US statistics, btw, not in terms of their lives.

That said, Puerto Ricans should arm themselves with pies and get ready to pitch them at this evil/idiotic imposter who wants to exploit them.


27 posted on 06/12/2011 2:04:55 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius
However, I think this guy is fixating on Newyoricans.

The writer [White House] seems to think Floridian "Puerto Ricans" (everyone is a needy sub-set to Dems) need the Prez to hop down to Puerto Rico to help shore up his Florida vote. I'm sure some adviser told him so.

28 posted on 06/12/2011 2:14:13 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

well, they are being used.


29 posted on 06/12/2011 8:34:13 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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