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Electric cars may not be so green after all, says British study (another lib myth down the tubes)
The Australian ^
| 06/10/11
| Ben Webster
Posted on 06/13/2011 12:13:38 PM PDT by nhwingut
ELECTRIC cars could produce higher emissions over their lifetimes than petrol equivalents because of the energy consumed in making their batteries, a study has found.
An electric car owner would have to drive at least 129,000km before producing a net saving in CO2. Many electric cars will not travel that far in their lifetime because they typically have a range of less than 145km on a single charge and are unsuitable for long trips. Even those driven 160,000km would save only about a tonne of CO2 over their lifetimes.
The British study, which is the first analysis of the full lifetime emissions of electric cars covering manufacturing, driving and disposal, undermines the case for tackling climate change by the rapid introduction of electric cars.
(Excerpt) Read more at theaustralian.com.au ...
TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alternative; cars; electric; electriccars; electricvehicles; energy; environment; globalwarming; green; greencars; greenvehicles; morons
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posted on
06/13/2011 12:13:44 PM PDT
by
nhwingut
To: nhwingut
Gee what a shocker, isn’t that what we’ve been saying to these nutjobs forever?
What idiots.
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posted on
06/13/2011 12:15:54 PM PDT
by
Secret Agent Man
(I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
To: nhwingut
I’ve been waiting for someone to bring up batteries. Not only do you have to make the chemically nasty things, but you have to dispose of them. Can you imagine how many there would be to dispose of if everyone drove electric cars?
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posted on
06/13/2011 12:16:36 PM PDT
by
Clara Lou
To: Secret Agent Man
I mean there was an article a long time ago saying the carbon footprint to make a prius was far larger than what it took to make a hummer (when we made them). Because of the battery.
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posted on
06/13/2011 12:17:13 PM PDT
by
Secret Agent Man
(I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
To: nhwingut
The person that buys an electric car DOES NOT want to hear this.
The reason he buys the car is to feel good about himself for “doing something to save the erf”.
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posted on
06/13/2011 12:18:09 PM PDT
by
MrB
(The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
To: nhwingut
I saw an add yesterday that showed people using every little machine you could think of, and every little machine was noisy and spewing noxious gases. Eventually, the announcer said, "Imagine if
everything ran on gas." And then we saw some smug Liberal plugging in his car -- no gasoline for him!!
I turned to my wife and said, "Running on coal is sooooooo much better."
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posted on
06/13/2011 12:18:21 PM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
To: nhwingut
The assumption here is that CO2 is a pollutant, which of course it is not. Even worse though, the concept of green implies something good for plant life, but plant life loves co2, so in reality, anything that produces co2, and especially if it produces lots of it, should be considered green.
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posted on
06/13/2011 12:18:28 PM PDT
by
HerrBlucher
("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
To: nhwingut
Boy, this is a real stunner of a study, ay?
So, one has to drive nearly 80-thousand-miles before it makes any appreciable difference in emissions.
Golly, who’d thunk it?
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posted on
06/13/2011 12:18:40 PM PDT
by
RexBeach
(Mr. Obama can't count.)
To: RexBeach
....then it is time for a new battery, so that resets the clock, or totals the car. Not green.
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posted on
06/13/2011 12:21:24 PM PDT
by
PeaceBeWithYou
(De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq))
To: nhwingut
An electric car owner would have to drive at least 129,000km before producing a net saving in CO2.
I suspect it is far FAR greater than that. I never see anyone take into account the amount of energy that a battery looses while just sitting. This is something NO battery can overcome, no matter how well it's insulated.
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posted on
06/13/2011 12:23:10 PM PDT
by
rottndog
(Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
To: MrB
The reason he buys the car is to feel good about himself for doing something to save the erf.
There was an episode called Smug Alert on South Park that dealt with these electric car nazis -- and how it made them feel better. It was hysterical.
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posted on
06/13/2011 12:25:17 PM PDT
by
nhwingut
(Palin '12... Accept No Other)
To: nhwingut
I bought my super-low emission Honda Hybrid because I commute 1000 miles a week and it gets 47 mpg. Just pure naked greed on my part. p.s. I used the $4500 clunker deal to allay the cost.
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posted on
06/13/2011 12:25:56 PM PDT
by
oncebitten
(Re: Obama: "I could carve a better man out of a banana." T. Roosevelt)
To: nhwingut
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posted on
06/13/2011 12:28:09 PM PDT
by
DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
(Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
To: nhwingut
Wake me up when the liberal geniuses figure out that the electrical plug of the car eventually connects to some dirty fossil fuel power plant.
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posted on
06/13/2011 12:29:04 PM PDT
by
avacado
To: Secret Agent Man
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posted on
06/13/2011 12:33:38 PM PDT
by
matt04
To: nhwingut
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posted on
06/13/2011 12:36:23 PM PDT
by
Sergio
(An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
To: nhwingut
This British study is horse manure. Even if not for the batteries, unless you charge it with solar/hydro/wind/geothermal/atomic, you have to burn fuel. Most of our electricity comes from coal, and a car engine is more efficient than a steam turbine.
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posted on
06/13/2011 12:37:22 PM PDT
by
babygene
(Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
To: HerrBlucher
HB,
Good to know that many of my friends here at FR understand that CO2 is moist plant food.
Now if we could just overcome the fact that the average IQ is 100...
Too many people just don’t understand the most simple science.
To: nhwingut
Wondering if they account for the 50% or more coal source of the electricity. Checking...
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posted on
06/13/2011 12:44:28 PM PDT
by
Jack of all Trades
(Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed
Now if we could just overcome the fact that the average IQ is 100... Standard average IQ is 100 by definition................
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posted on
06/13/2011 12:45:13 PM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Nothing is a 'right' if someone has to give it to you................)
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