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NBC's Gregory: Are Americans Really 'Better Off' with 'Freedom'?
NewsBusters ^ | 6/13/11 | Kyle Drennen

Posted on 06/13/2011 12:16:49 PM PDT by Nachum

While grilling former Pennsylvania Senator and presidential hopeful Rick Santorum on NBC's Sunday Meet the Press, host David Gregory was skeptical of the idea that Americans should be able to choose their own health care plan: "They're better off with the freedom that they've got in the vagaries of the private insurance market?" Gregory was responding to Santorum's criticism of ObamaCare: "[Obama] doesn't believe Americans can actually make decisions for themselves, that he has to tell you how much money you're going to, you're going to spend on health care." After doubting the value of freedom in

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americans; drunkenfool; freedom; gregory; nbcs; usefulidiots
If you have doubted that we are in a civil war, perhaps you will believe now
1 posted on 06/13/2011 12:16:56 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

If you ever want to know the Government’s view, then just watch NBC news and CNBC news. Just look at the side they take and you will know the Government’s position.


2 posted on 06/13/2011 12:19:24 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Nachum

I’ve got one question for clowns like this: With all the comfort, security, etc., why did you move out of your parent’s home?


3 posted on 06/13/2011 12:20:58 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Sprite518

Everytime you deal with cops, you should know this, everytime you fly, you should know this, etc...

Read my tagline.


4 posted on 06/13/2011 12:22:59 PM PDT by packrat35 (America is rapidly becoming a police state that East Germany could be proud of!)
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To: Nachum

Not surprising coming from a liberal like Gregory who is married to the former executive vice president of Fannie Mae. One thing interesting is that these folks aren’t even bothering to hide their ideology any longer. It’s becoming quite easy to see who’s who these days.


5 posted on 06/13/2011 12:24:46 PM PDT by Bed_Zeppelin
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To: RobRoy

I’m not sure David Gregory HAS moved out of his parents’ house.


6 posted on 06/13/2011 12:25:27 PM PDT by WayneS ("I hope you know this will go down on your PERMANENT record...")
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To: Nachum

NBC officially opposes freedom. Amazing.


7 posted on 06/13/2011 12:27:00 PM PDT by MeganC (NO WAR FOR OIL! ........except when a Democrat's in charge.)
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To: Nachum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKLVyZ_tgXc

How was Gregory’s hair? (snicker)


8 posted on 06/13/2011 12:31:29 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Nachum

Does Gregory want to give up his freedom or does he just think we not so elite should give up ours?


9 posted on 06/13/2011 12:33:42 PM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: RobRoy
Good one!

To which I might add that there are no really private insurance plans out there.

Just as one example, the wino and drug rehab lobby has forced every insurance seller in Pennsylvania to include full substance abuse coverage in health policies even for companies such as ours which require drug tests to get and keep your jobs here. Our manufacturing involves heavy machinery which is not only very expensive but downright dangerous if operated by a wino or druggie.

We don't want them. We don't hire them. But we still have to pay for them.

10 posted on 06/13/2011 12:36:06 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Nachum

Communist, Socialists, and Progressives have no clue to what “freedom” is, hence why GregoryIdiot questions such..... =.=


11 posted on 06/13/2011 12:37:54 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Nachum

bttt


12 posted on 06/13/2011 12:42:12 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: Nachum

Has David Gregory caught the leftist brain syphilis?

Oh the humanity!


13 posted on 06/13/2011 12:42:55 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (VOTE out the RATS! Go Sarah!)
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To: Nachum

‘cause we’re all so busy clinging to our guns and religion, dontcha know...


14 posted on 06/13/2011 12:45:40 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Nachum

He’s being honest in saying the left wants us in chains. When they come right out and admit that what they are offering is slavery, we win.


15 posted on 06/13/2011 12:47:37 PM PDT by Spok
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To: Bed_Zeppelin

Gregory’s view is not unlike that of the Pony Tail Guy from the ‘92 campaign that Rush is always pointing out to us.

“We are your children. What is Big Daddy Government going to do to take care of his children?”


16 posted on 06/13/2011 12:48:32 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Sprite518

We do have state controlled TV - ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS. And we have state controlled radio - NPR or National People’s Radio. The state sanctioned stations don’t get any of my attention.

> If you ever want to know the Government’s view, then just watch NBC news and CNBC news. Just look at the side they take and you will know the Government’s position.


17 posted on 06/13/2011 12:48:49 PM PDT by CORedneck
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To: Aria

Does Gregory want to give up his freedom or does he just think we not so elite should give up ours?


The latter :(


18 posted on 06/13/2011 12:51:36 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: Nachum
ummm, ya might want to ask the North Korean's that...
19 posted on 06/13/2011 12:51:49 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Nachum

With an attitude like that Gregory would be better off working for a government controlled press.

Oh? He does? Never mind.


20 posted on 06/13/2011 12:54:51 PM PDT by CedarDave (Things are so bad at the NY Times they have to outsource their investigations.)
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To: Nachum

Serfs were free too. As long as they paid most of their income to their feudal lords, who then paid tribute to the feudal lords above them, who then paid tribute to the feudal lords above them, who then paid tribute to the feudal lords above them, etc, etc.


21 posted on 06/13/2011 12:55:13 PM PDT by reg45
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To: Nachum
In other words:

“Wouldn’t you rather have the government make all your decisions for you?”
It worked so well for the citizens of PolPot’s Cambodia, Mao’s China, and Stalin’s USSR.

“Why not make the USA like Cuba or Venezuela?...they don’t call it a Worker’s Paradise for nothing! So what if 100 million people are killed because they don’t agree with our way of thinking? In the words of one of our glorious leaders, “One death is a tragedy; one million is a statistic.”

22 posted on 06/13/2011 12:57:37 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: Nachum

Does he really want to turn our eye to him? What happens when the hunter becomes the hunted? What happens when the public starts to really look at the media the way they went through Sarah’s E-mails?


23 posted on 06/13/2011 12:59:29 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: Nachum

Isn’t that what the slaveowners asked the slaves?

The fascists are finally coming out in the open now....good, lets get this over with so we can go back to being a free people.


24 posted on 06/13/2011 1:10:14 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Nachum

I hope to God President Palin puts Ann Coulter in as Press Secretary

She will have these liberal pansies whimpering in a corner in less than a month


25 posted on 06/13/2011 1:18:35 PM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: Aria

*Does Gregory want to give up his freedom or does he just think we not so elite should give up ours?*

I’m guessing he’s getting a waiver…proletariat not eligible for waivers.


26 posted on 06/13/2011 1:52:34 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: Nachum

bkmk


27 posted on 06/13/2011 1:54:12 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Nachum
Better Off

Now that is a precise journalistic measurement for political spinning aka propaganda. It qualifies and sloppy nonsense to obscure the really important considerations, like the speed with which government is taking away our freedoms, regardless of whether we will be "better off" by their disingenuous, nebulous standards or not.

28 posted on 06/13/2011 2:00:35 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: Nachum
Gregory is either ignorant of the great ideas and principles of liberty which underlie the American Declaration of Independence and Constitution, or he deliberately seeks to distort and minimize them.

The following listing provides a basic level of discourse which could help Americans to evaluate the grave matters before us in terms of whether certain ideas or actions lead to freedom or tyranny:

"1. Does this legislation or idea increase, or decrease, individual freedom and creativity?

"2. Does this legislation or idea increase, or decrease, the power of some citizens over other citizens?

"3. Does this legislation or idea recognize that the persons who will exercise the power are themselves imperfect human beings?

"4. Does this legislation or idea recognize that government is incapable of creating wealth?

"5. Does this legislation or idea authorize taking from some what belongs to them, and giving it to others to whom it does not belong?
If 'thou shalt not steal' is a valid commandment, can we assume that it is meant to apply only to individuals and not to government (which is made up of individuals), even if those persons in power pass laws which sanction such redistribution of the wealth of others?'

"6. Does this legislation or idea encourage, or discourage, the very highest level of morality and responsibility from the individual?
. . .when government makes actions 'legal' by some citizens at the expense of other citizens, the result may be behavior which would not be considered possible by individuals acting alone.

"7. Does this legislation or idea propose that the 'government' do something which the individual cannot do without committing a crime?"**

**7 principles excerpted from James R. Evans book, "America's Choice," and reprinted in a Stedman Corporation (Asheboro, NC) action booklet entitled "I'm Only One, What Can I Do?"

29 posted on 06/13/2011 2:27:15 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Nachum

False premise.

We have not had ‘freedom’ in health insurance choice for a very long time. State goverments control who can sell insurance, what policies they can sell, what the rates are, that you can’t buy insurnace from another state, etc.

Obamacare just replaces 50 individual state run monopolies with one single gigantic Federal run monopoly.

But it’s still a monopoly either way. IOW NO CHANGE


30 posted on 06/13/2011 2:30:59 PM PDT by Lorianne (o)
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To: Vigilanteman

Exactly.
See my post #30.

We are letting the liberal media dominate the message on ‘health care’ instead of telling it like it is. There is no free market in health insurance and hasn’t been for a long time.


31 posted on 06/13/2011 2:33:22 PM PDT by Lorianne (o)
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To: Nachum

“If you have doubted that we are in a civil war, perhaps you will believe now”

And too few conservatives have returned fire.


32 posted on 06/13/2011 2:33:40 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: TexasRepublic

*“If you have doubted that we are in a civil war, perhaps you will believe now”
And too few conservatives have returned fire.*

I hope enough of us return the fire in the form of a maelstrom of votes in 2012.


33 posted on 06/13/2011 2:44:37 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: Nachum

Meh.
There is no civil war.
“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”


34 posted on 06/13/2011 2:50:00 PM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: Nachum

“NBC’s Gregory: Are Americans Really ‘Better Off’ with ‘Freedom’?”

Our enemies are painting themselves screaming red, jumping up from the foxholes and saying “Here I am!”

How delicious.


35 posted on 06/13/2011 4:00:30 PM PDT by sergeantdave (The democrat party is a seditious organization that must be outlawed)
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To: Nachum

HERE IS THE BIG LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!

HEALTH CARE AND HEALTH INSURANCE

BEFORE OBAMACARE!!!!!! BEFORE OBAMACARE!!!!!

WERE AMONG THE MOST OVER-REGULATED INDUSTRIES IN THE ECONOMY,

WERE AMONG THE INDUSTRIES WITH THE MOST GOVERNMENT PRICE FIXING,

WERE AMONG THE INDUSTRIES WITH THE MOST GOVERNMENT INSTITUTED COST SHIFTING,

WERE AMONG THE INDUSTRIES WITH THE MOST SUBSIDIES,

WERE AMONG THE INDUSTRIES WITH TAX INCENTIVES MOST FAVORABLE TO LARGE CORPORATIONS, UNIONS AND GOVERNMENT PLANS AND THE LEAST INCENTIVES TO INDIVIDUALS OR SMALL BUSINESSES,

WERE TWO OF THE LEAST “FREE” MARKETS IN THE ECONOMY,

WHICH IS WHY THEY WERE SO BAD.

“There was a sixty year long effort to undermine free-market economic forces in health care and health insurance, to weaken them as industries, make them sick by government excess, stage after stage, decry the increasing costs that government excess helped create, and then claim ultimate government excess as the solution.”© Wuli 2011

Mr. Gregory’s comment reflects the lie he believes - that what we have had for the last sixty years are “free markets” in health care and health insurance. We haven’t. They were not free at all.


36 posted on 06/13/2011 5:58:07 PM PDT by Wuli
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