Posted on 06/13/2011 8:17:47 PM PDT by Ditto
Natural gas pipeline companies have been Dorothy Ganiear's neighbor in Greene County for as long as she can remember.
Pipelines from two companies poke out from the ground in twisting interchanges just over a grassy hillside from her family's 100-acre farm, but noise or accidents never have been a problem, Ganiear said.
So when Virginia-based Dominion Resources Inc. offered her money this year to allow the company to run another pipeline under a corner of her Morgan Township property, Ganiear, 61, was happy to help. This is what we all have to live with in order to get the natural gas we need to heat our homes, she said.
What she does not want to live with is a pipeline that would help take gas to a port for export overseas.
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(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...
lol,, of course. I meant it tongue in cheek, in an illustrative way. But that still makes my point,,,wouldn’t she prefer to produce the candy (a commodity) locally, for use elsewhere?
And conversely,, what if the cocoa farms complained how all the cocoa pods were “being sent somewhere else”?
I do feel bad for her. Someone just gave her bad information.
I know what I’m talking about. My husband works a natural gas pipeline. I hear stories everyday about running a line through someone’s property. There are lawyers involved. She can ask any question she wants.
The article is written in a contentious way -- trying to make it seem that the gas coursing thru the pipelines under the lady's property is committed to export when it's not.
The only connection is that one of the pipeline's owners is also involved in a projected import-export natural gas terminal in Maryland.
To which, the best answer is "So what?"
And it truly is correct to feel bad for her. Someone is feeding her bad info,,,likely an environmentalist who want to stop all gas production.
Most people are truly good, and if it is explained to them correctly, people like her would be dancing in her yard, for herself, her local community, her kids, and her nation. The fee for a pipeline on her property would likely surprise her.
Energy production creates so many good jobs. Lord knows we need them. I know it’s a shock to the Wall Street polished shoe lickers, but not everyone in this nation is, or wants to be an MBA.
I can say without pause her eyes would pop out of her head. :)
Anyone living near the shale/natural gas finds needs to go apply for the jobs.
I wish someone would come and pay me to run a gas line across my property. I would also demand free gas for my liftime then I could heat my pool year round. When I was growing up we had a gas well on our property. Had free gas for life. Saved my parents alot of money. Espically since they were in the chicken growing business.
Export it all to China. Send ‘em all of the trees in North America, too. Our bipartisan corporate superiors taught us that our country is overpopulated with European culture descendants, and that there’s too much domestic business competition.
LOL, they’ll pay to run the pipeline but around here they don’t do free gas.
I wish I had a gas stove. I hate that electric monster we have. We have no gas service in this hood but God as my witness, the day we do, I’m getting a gas stove !!
Speaking as a Southwest PA man — our new governor will not put a tax on that gas. So, unfortunately, “taxes pour into the local base” isn’t really true.
My question is — who owns that gas? The people who own the land the gas in on or the people who drill wells miles away and steal it?
All I know is that I’m not making any money from it.
Here's the heading and link to the first article on this published yesterday. Comments --- Pro? Con?
Natural gas prices set to jump with exports
Some companies that control America's natural gas are pushing for government approval to export gas overseas for higher profits on the international market, a move that will significantly drive up prices in the United States because this nation still imports more than 10 percent of its domestic needs. Among the biggest expected customers for American gas exports: energy-thirsty China, other Asian nations and Europe.
Link to the rest of the article here:
The question is, do we get the advantage domestically of low natural gas prices for residential, commercial, electric generation and industrial uses here, or does natural gas become another world commodity driven by other economies?
Our energy policy has to be geared to release the US from foreign oil dependence...meaning oil pumped from our land is sold within our country.
Also US workers and US based companies should benefit from the industry.
The reason: Americans are not third world idiots where foreigners exploit us, our enviornment and our land. It is not to our advantage to permit the extraction of gas and oil if we are not benefited by it and foreign policy will be benefited as well as our cost of living if we do an America first policy.
Besides, NG exports are good for America in the aggregate, just like any other export.
It is.
The obvious solution is liquifaction of natural gas into gasoline, diesel, etc, using the Fischer-Tropps process. The same can be done with coal, albeit at a higher cost.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fischer-Tropsch_process
Lqiufaction of natural gas into POL is price-competitive with normally drilled oil when the price per barrel of oil is about $45-$50 (and about $60 a barrel for coal liquifaction). The major obstacle is the capital investment necessary, which requires a risk premium.
Large-scale conversion of natural gas and coal to POL might not happen for a long time given that shale oil can now be fracked for about $35-$40 a barrel POL equivalent. Israel is about 15-20 years out from really massive, Persian Gulf scale, deep shale oil production, via fracking. See:
http://opinion.financialpost.com/2011/06/10/israels-new-energy/
Once the Israeli pilot project comes on line in about two years, I expect Europe to start developing its own shale oil with the same process.
America has a huge and growing NG surplus. Not to export the excess would be irresponsible. Why should we leave money on the table?
Natural gas would be a far superior alternative to fuel your automobile that would ethanol or certainly electricity!!...There are a multitude of natural gas fired vehicles or the road as we speak, but again, our government is dead set against American supplied fuel....pathetic
Really? Where do our agriculture products -- corn, wheat etc. go? Forest products? Coal? Iron ore? Nothing wrong with that.
We export a lot of natural resources and less and less manufactured/value-added products. That is the problem.
We threaten to become a 3rd world commodity supplier while we go into debt to buy energy from overseas.
Why export low cost energy?
Why does the DOE even have control over export of gas? Gas exporters certainly aren’t “stealing it” and its the owner’s right to sell it where he chooses.
Why not just have the Gov’t nationalize it all, and then dole out gas to whoever is most politically connected or pays the highest bribes? That’s the other alternative, and basically how it works elsewhere in the world.
We are not going to war and sticking our noses into the business of foregin corn producers because of our dependency on corn, are we? So, there is no comparison between the commodity of corn and oil and the way it effects the US economy and foreign policy.
If we ever had a shortage of corn, I would want America first in that trade policy, too.
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