Obama speaks to half-empty fundraiser--heckled in Florida

Daily Caller ^ | 06/14/2011 | Steven Nelson

[Polybius]

So someone again explain to me how Obama is a shoo-in for re-election?

Simple. Obama is a shoo-in for re-election IF Obama's opponents do something extremely irrational. For example:

An NFL team is a shoo-in to win the Super Bowl IF the other team is irrational enough to put in their prettiest cheerleader as their only quarterback because she is sooooo cute and sooooo adorable.

Cute & Adorable Rating: Through the roof.
Ability to win the 2012 Super Bowl as the quaterback: None whatsoever

Likewise, the GOP will lose in a landslide IF the GOP primary voters are irrational enough to nominate a GOP candidate that sixty five percent (65%) of all voters have said that they will "definitely NOT vote for" because she is sooooo cute and sooooo adorable.

That is the scenario that scares the cr@p out of me. Irrational GOP primary voters that vote for cuteness and adorability rather than electability and then hand the White House over to Marxist Barack Hussein Obama for another four years..

Of all the debaters in last night's Republican debate, most American voters would choose "None of the Above".

Bill Clinton did not announce his first winning candidacy until October of the year before the election. The GOP field has until around October of 2011 to attract a strong, conservative candidate whose poll numbers are not lower than whale scat at the bottom of the ocean and who can actually defeat Obama.

If not, America will habe saddled with RINO Romney or Marxist Obama as President of the United States for the next four years.

[KosmicKitty]

The bloom’s off the rose.

Good!! Hope it let ll the way up to the election & we can be rid of this mistake.

[andy58-in-nh]

What a Canucklehead.

[airborne]

So you think it’s all dirty needles and “unprotected homo sex” in Africa?

Once again you misrepresent what I clearly stated.

I have to wonder what your agenda is.

I told you before that if you had additional causes, you were welcome to share your knowledge, and thereby enter into a discussion.

Instead you make up words of your own and attribute them to me.

Again I wonder, what is your agenda? What point is it you wish to share?

Other than trying to attack me.

[airborne]

LOL!

You startled me!

I thought I had posted on the wrong thread!

[harmonium]

It’s not 1984.

I’m not trying to give a PSA here, but the outdated notion that HIV and AIDS are a “Gay Cancer”, and written off as something which occurs predominantly amongst druggies and homosexuals, is dangerously ignorant and misleading.

[harmonium]

I’ve made the point. My agenda? I don’t want Freepers to think they are immune or even at lesser risk to communicable disease.

[airborne]

My agenda? I don’t want Freepers to think they are immune or even at lesser risk to communicable disease.

So why not just make that statement, instead of making up something and attaching it to me?

I'm sure all of us Freepers are better informed by a comment which includes facts than it does by a comment which includes nothing but a vague accusation.

[Cboldt]

-- It is the Obama Drinking Game: take a shot every time he uses a first-person singular personal pronoun. --

The world's shortest drinking game, that one is.

[Mashood]

“I don’t want Freepers to think they are immune or even at lesser risk to communicable disease.”

Its only communicable if you’re gay, bisexual, or an intravenous drug user... as HIV/AIDs if DEEPLY ROOTED in these communities. Your efforts to make it appear mainstream is ridiculous.

[aruanan]

I’m not trying to give a PSA here, but the outdated notion that HIV and AIDS are a “Gay Cancer”, and written off as something which occurs predominantly amongst druggies and homosexuals, is dangerously ignorant and misleading.

According to the CDC, the numbers for 40 states in 2009 are as follows:

Transmission Category	Estimated Number of Diagnoses of HIV Infection, 2009
	Adult and Adolescent Males	Adult and Adolescent Females	Total
Male-to-male sexual contact	23,846	-	23,846
Injection drug use	2,449	1,483	3,932
Male-to-male sexual contact and injection drug use	1,131	-	1,131
Heterosexual contact*	4,399	8,461	12,860
Other**	47	29	76

* Heterosexual contact with a person known to have, or to be at high risk for, HIV infection.
** Includes hemophilia, blood transfusion, perinatal exposure, and risk not reported or not identified.

The distribution of the estimated number of diagnoses of HIV infection among children* in the 40 states with confidential name-based HIV infection reporting, by transmission category, follows:

Transmission Category	Estimated Number of Diagnoses of HIV Infection, 2009
Perinatal	131
Other**	35

* The term "children" refers to persons under age 13 years at the time of diagnosis.
** Includes hemophilia, blood transfusion, and risk not reported or not identified.

So you see that less than about 2% of the population by sexual orientation carries more than twice the number of HIV infections as the other 98%. The numbers for HIV through intravenous drug use apart from sexual activity amount to about 1/10 that of sexual activity. So the two biggest means of HIV transmission are sexual activity (homosexual > heterosexual by more than 2:1 in raw numbers, unadjusted by population) and intravenous drug use. This all means that an extremely small number of individuals are responsible for the largest portion of HIV infections.

[eaglestar]

The location of the event is in a city (Miami) with a population of 2,496,435 & loaded with Liberals.

LOL!!!

[harmonium]

See, it doesn’t help that you’re now trying to statistically argue the idea that the Freeper demographic is less at risk.

There are no reliable AIDS/HIV stats. Sorry. You were quick to ignore the stats in your own table though, which show more than half the cases were heterosexuals, with a disproportionate amount of those being heterosexual women.

[harmonium]

“instead of making up something and attaching it to me?”

I’ll take that as you not standing behind your post, and feeling attacked for getting called on it. By portraying AIDS as you did, you may put your own community at greater risk.

[Recovering_Democrat]

[aruanan]

See, it doesn’t help that you’re now trying to statistically argue the idea that the Freeper demographic is less at risk.

There are no reliable AIDS/HIV stats. Sorry. You were quick to ignore the stats in your own table though, which show more than half the cases were heterosexuals, with a disproportionate amount of those being heterosexual women.

I didn't ignore anything. I said that about half the HIV cases were heterosexual. But that's heterosexual HIV cases from at least 98% of a >300,000,000 population versus about twice that number that from less than 2% of that population. As far as "disproportionate amount of those being heterosexual women" note that total males with HIV from some kind of sexual contact is over 30,000 compare to about 8,500 for women, more than 3:1.

As far as "there are no reliable AIDS/HIV stats," that's awfully convenient because it allows you to argue almost anything.

[harmonium]

...But I’m not arguing “almost anything”.

I’m arguing in very general terms that anyone misleading the Freeper community to think they are less at risk...or saying anything vaguely suggestive that Homosexuals and Drug Users make up the bulk of AIDS victims.... is doing a disservice, and playing off outdated information.

Relying on statistics would also enable erroneous thinking such as “well I’m not a Black female living in DC, Florida, or California, so I’m not at risk”.

There are no solid stats. You won’t find accurate world numbers, you won’t find two studies using the same methodology, and studies are rarely updated yearly. There’s too much of an industry to manipulate the numbers for their purposes, depending on if they want to make one group look at risk or less at risk, just as *you* did.

AIDS and HIV are not a homosexual thing, or a drug user thing. Please don’t mislead anyone into thinking otherwise. There was a time when nobody would have suspected Black Females would become the hardest hit demographic.

[airborne]

You’ve twisted my words before, so it figures you would continue.

So I’ll say good day to you. Continue your agenda on your own time. I’m done with your ignorance.

[aruanan]

AIDS and HIV are not a homosexual thing, or a drug user thing. Please don’t mislead anyone into thinking otherwise.

If it is true that there are no accurate numbers then you cannot make a statement like the one above and have it be anything but opinion with no factual basis at all.

[Revolting cat!]

Fags are unhappy because Obamessiah hasn’t cured the sick!