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Armed and extremely dangerous' ex-militia leader hunted after Mont. Shootout
MSNBC.com ^ | June 14, 2011 | Associated Press, Reuters, NBC News and msnbc.com staff

Posted on 06/14/2011 1:43:04 PM PDT by Teotwawki

Federal and state agents are searching a 30-square-mile swath of rugged Montana forest for a former militia leader following a shootout with sheriff's deputies, authorities said.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: burgert; davidburgert; militia; montana
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To: Georgia Girl 2
You feel uneasy because he's out on parole! His priors include actual possession of a machinegun, with ammo.

He has been DIAGNOSED as a paranoid schizophrenic.

That would make anyone very concerned, even the concern trolls ~ they really would.

A parole board and a federal judge created this situation.

41 posted on 06/14/2011 2:31:41 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Personally I think it would be best to let him wander in the woods for a while to calm down. It doesn’t mean I think he’s innocent but hunting him isn’t going to lend itself to a peaceful solution.


42 posted on 06/14/2011 2:36:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Dead Corpse
Machine guns are especially dangerous, particularly in the right hands.

I did the machine gun score you hear in "The Green Beret", a John Wayne Movie.

Couldn't hear for two weeks, but those precision bursts of 3, bursts of 4, bursts of 6 ~ that's me. It's not just tattitatat.

If need be I could have dismantled wood frame houses with a few hundred rounds.

Although I do believe the government owes it to me and should provide me with my very own M60 and a couple of pallets of ammunition, I don't believe you can be trusted with one of those devices. They really are too much for the untrained.

43 posted on 06/14/2011 2:37:52 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: cripplecreek

Like, all things considered, what’s he going to do out there? Steal campers’ food from bears or what?


44 posted on 06/14/2011 2:38:56 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Teotwawki; HiTech RedNeck; DonaldC; ironwill; Cheetahcat; 2harddrive; Lurking Libertarian; ...

Whether he is a bad guy, a nut, or a good guy “one of us” being framed, we’ll never know.

And these type examples should put paid to the silly notion that somehow there will be widespread armed resistance of the 18th century variety against 21st century jackboots.

They will divide and conquer easily. They will call you a gun hoarder, claim you abused your children, assaulted your ex-girlfriend once....

Simultaneous, organized resistance is one thing. But if it’s not organized, and it’s not concerted, then teotwaki for rkba will just be a news-blackout of thousands of these assaults one at a time.

When the shtf, they’ll pull the plug, isolate us, put out the alert for neighbors to turn in suspicious “lilly-white terrorists” and they will be able to whittle away at us one by one. They won’t even go door to door. It will be a neighborhood here, a neighbor there. Tomorrow, a different town, then next door. Then another neighborhood, then you.

No matter. Hey, what’s on TV tonight?


45 posted on 06/14/2011 2:44:25 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
Burgert pleaded guilty to conspiracy to possess illegal firearms

What exactly does that mean ? He conspired to possess illegal firearms and did some inquiries ?

46 posted on 06/14/2011 2:44:32 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: sam_paine

How about this ~ let’s take over the government through elections FIRST and then round them up.


47 posted on 06/14/2011 2:45:56 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Eric Rudolph is a perfect example of how many of these situations might end once the pressure is off. A deputy stumbled across him and Rudolph gave up without a fight.


48 posted on 06/14/2011 2:46:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: muawiyah

Let’s hope we still have that option and the electorate is not gone so far down the raathole to choose it!


49 posted on 06/14/2011 2:47:52 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Flathead, Montana?

Isn’t that where Chuck Baldwin recently moved to?

http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin652.htm

I voted for Chuck for potus in ‘08!


50 posted on 06/14/2011 2:48:10 PM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Flathead, Montana?

Isn’t that where Chuck Baldwin recently moved to?

http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin652.htm

I voted for Chuck for potus in ‘08!


51 posted on 06/14/2011 2:49:16 PM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: sam_paine

“It will be a neighborhood here, a neighbor there. Tomorrow, a different town, then next door. Then another neighborhood, then you.”

This is why I advocate a neighbors helping neighbors approach to this problem, if you get my drift.


52 posted on 06/14/2011 2:49:54 PM PDT by Grunthor (Make the lefts' collective brain cell implode; Cain/Bolton 2012.)
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To: cripplecreek
Absolutely. These guys get a rage over a minor issue, and simply take longer to cool down.

Notice that the cops weren't after him ~ he was just out there doing his crazy guy bit and they responded.

If there hadn't been a call into them they'd never known about it.

53 posted on 06/14/2011 2:50:00 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

It sounds like he has - or they think he has - various stashes in the weeds. It’s summertime. An experienced woodsman who has prepared could live very comfortably on game, at least until the snow comes. If it were me - not that I’ve ever thought this out or anything - Canada would be the destination of choice. Wintering over in that country wouldn’t be my first option but it could be done.


54 posted on 06/14/2011 2:51:19 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Nope, I wanna drive by and give him a lift to safety! But I’m 1500 miles away.


55 posted on 06/14/2011 2:52:13 PM PDT by MissMack99 (BO Stinks!)
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To: sam_paine

“Whether he is a bad guy, a nut, or a good guy “one of us” being framed, we’ll never know.

And these type examples should put paid to the silly notion that somehow there will be widespread armed resistance of the 18th century variety against 21st century jackboots.

They will divide and conquer easily. They will call you a gun hoarder, claim you abused your children, assaulted your ex-girlfriend once....

Simultaneous, organized resistance is one thing. But if it’s not organized, and it’s not concerted, then teotwaki for rkba will just be a news-blackout of thousands of these assaults one at a time.

When the shtf, they’ll pull the plug, isolate us, put out the alert for neighbors to turn in suspicious “lilly-white terrorists” and they will be able to whittle away at us one by one. They won’t even go door to door. It will be a neighborhood here, a neighbor there. Tomorrow, a different town, then next door. Then another neighborhood, then you.

No matter. Hey, what’s on TV tonight?”

They do not have the numbers to do anything!


56 posted on 06/14/2011 2:53:15 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: Billthedrill

You can live on game or hide but you can’t do both. Game requires loud noises and fire. Game is also harder to find because it can hide better in the foliage. If he has good legs and lots of food, he can play hide and seek a long time.

Eric Rudolph raided houses for food and camped within sight of the people looking for him.


57 posted on 06/14/2011 2:54:54 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: sam_paine
They will divide and conquer easily. They will call you a gun hoarder, claim you abused your children, assaulted your ex-girlfriend once....

I fear you may be right. If that is the case, I'll go down fighting. "Live free or die" and all that.

58 posted on 06/14/2011 2:55:20 PM PDT by Teotwawki (To Him be the glory throughout all generations.)
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To: sam_paine

Whether he is a bad guy, a nut, or a good guy “one of us” being framed, we’ll never know.

And these type examples should put paid to the silly notion that somehow there will be widespread armed resistance of the 18th century variety against 21st century jackboots.

They will divide and conquer easily. They will call you a gun hoarder, claim you abused your children, assaulted your ex-girlfriend once....

Simultaneous, organized resistance is one thing. But if it’s not organized, and it’s not concerted, then teotwaki for rkba will just be a news-blackout of thousands of these assaults one at a time.

When the shtf, they’ll pull the plug, isolate us, put out the alert for neighbors to turn in suspicious “lilly-white terrorists” and they will be able to whittle away at us one by one. They won’t even go door to door. It will be a neighborhood here, a neighbor there. Tomorrow, a different town, then next door. Then another neighborhood, then you.

No matter. Hey, what’s on TV tonight?

Maybe so , But when they get to my neck of the woods its going to get bloody, I haven’t forgotten all the training ....and I am not afraid of doing what is necessary!


59 posted on 06/14/2011 2:56:18 PM PDT by mongo141
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To: Teotwawki

Looks like he’s a crazy, paranoid dude (dude as in city boy), who had stolen rifles and threatened violence against people without cause. ...and not even as bright as our foreign, Islamo-fascist enemies. Most of those with very large numbers of firearms are law-abiding wealthy folks (maybe a little eccentric), and no one bothers them.


60 posted on 06/14/2011 2:58:25 PM PDT by familyop (Shut up, and eat your brains!)
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