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Iran's president calls for post-Soviet security alliance to unite in alliance against West
The Canadian Press ^ | June 15, 2011 | Peter Leonard

Posted on 06/15/2011 8:20:17 AM PDT by silentknight

ASTANA, Kazakhstan - Iranian President Mahmoud

Ahmadinejad called Wednesday for a security alliance of several former Soviet nations and China to form a united front against the West. Ahmadinejad's address to fellow heads of state at the summit of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization in Kazakhstan will likely deepen suspicions that the bloc is intended as a counterweight to the United States across the region. In a summit declaration signed by all the member states, the organization also attacked missile defense programs in another apparent dig at the United States.

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TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: alliance; armageddon; belarus; chicoms; china; coldwar2; communism; gog; iran; kgb; magog; prophecy; putin; reddawn; russia; soviets; sovietunion; ukraine; ussr; venezuela

1 posted on 06/15/2011 8:20:23 AM PDT by silentknight
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To: silentknight

People ask me why I believe Russia will march on Israel one day and laugh at that.

I knew this alliance was coming - this is how we end up in another world war.

The 1930s - repeating itself.


2 posted on 06/15/2011 8:21:26 AM PDT by silentknight
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To: silentknight

Isn’t it amazing how closely the Radical lefty’s led by Obama sound exactly like Amadmanjihad....

I wonder what his DU screen name is, probably one of their Mods.


3 posted on 06/15/2011 8:23:45 AM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Ask a liberal to explain how tax increases create jobs in America)
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To: Typical_Whitey

I don’t think this alliance comes as a surprise. Why wouldn’t they do this? Strength ended by our weakness. They smell blood in the water.


4 posted on 06/15/2011 8:25:23 AM PDT by silentknight
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To: silentknight

Should read
strengthened


5 posted on 06/15/2011 8:27:11 AM PDT by silentknight
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To: silentknight

which makes it Extremely important that we replace the Milquetoast in the White House with a no nonsense leader willing to project American strength.


6 posted on 06/15/2011 8:27:58 AM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Ask a liberal to explain how tax increases create jobs in America)
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To: silentknight

I would love to see some member of Congress introduce legislation for a formal declaration of war against Iran.


7 posted on 06/15/2011 8:31:41 AM PDT by privatedrive
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To: silentknight
The 1930s - repeating itself.

We need a true leader come 2012 more than ever.

We can't afford to blow it this time around.

8 posted on 06/15/2011 8:33:33 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: silentknight

well of course..he is asking athiest to help muslims slaughter christians...


9 posted on 06/15/2011 8:34:06 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: silentknight

Persia rising...:(


10 posted on 06/15/2011 8:34:40 AM PDT by 444Flyer ("...Rather the scorned- the rejected -the men hemmed in with the spears..." from 'A Consecration')
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To: silentknight
They smell blood in the water.

And the fifth column is well entrenched!

11 posted on 06/15/2011 8:35:50 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the Constitution, always. Allegiance to a party, never!)
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To: silentknight
From the article,

................"Much of Ahmadinejad's fiery speech was devoted to levelling an exhaustive series of thinly veiled accusations against unnamed Western countries, which he described as "enslavers, colonialists, (and) invaders."

"Which one of our countries (has played a role) in the black era of slavery, or in the destruction of hundreds of millions of human beings?" Ahmadinejad said, opening his address."..................

Seriously? Russia and China come to mind.
12 posted on 06/15/2011 8:36:07 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: silentknight

Ezekiel chapters 37-39.


13 posted on 06/15/2011 8:38:00 AM PDT by tflabo
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To: silentknight
Things are falling into place nicely for a major conflagration in the Middle East. Just sayin'.

14 posted on 06/15/2011 8:40:25 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: silentknight
Indeed ... Santayana said it best: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." Weakness has ALWAYS been an invitation to aggression.
15 posted on 06/15/2011 8:45:30 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (They think "just because she's right on every damn issue doesn't give her enough credibility.")
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To: silentknight; SunkenCiv

Just like Nostradamus predicted.


16 posted on 06/15/2011 8:46:23 AM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: silentknight
Guys, guys, guys you are all overreacting!!!

We just need the wonderful Saintly President Obama to go to the meeting and "apologize" and all will be well!!!

/ MEGA MEGA SARC!!!

17 posted on 06/15/2011 8:53:21 AM PDT by Dengar01 ("Liberalism is a Mental Disorder" - Dr. Michael Savage)
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To: Girlene
Yeah last I checked I don't think the US killed hundreds of millions of anyone. The bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki didn't top 100K. If you count military deaths during the wars from the founding of this nation (exclude everything pre-1776), you can even include the Civil War. MAYBE, just MAYBE we reach 1 million killed.

Consider how many people Nazi Germany killed? We know they killed at least 30 million civilians. Their POW's died by a 9 out of 10 ratio. They also committed mass genocide known as the holocaust which the new Hitler of Iran says is a myth...

Then you have Stalin, purges... Mao, millions dead, Hitlers in Iran given to us by Jimmy Carter, millions dead...

Meanwhile, we have a perverted freak Congressman and Obama golfing to fill our headlines.

Read the tagline it explains why our country is falling apart!

18 posted on 06/15/2011 8:58:50 AM PDT by Dengar01 ("Liberalism is a Mental Disorder" - Dr. Michael Savage)
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To: Dengar01

I know....it’s laughable that he would make such claims......but then he’s also a holocaust denier.


19 posted on 06/15/2011 9:11:20 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: 444Flyer

Yes, Persia was rising rather gradually & peacefully until 1979, when Carter along with a few others in the west helped Khomeini & ISLAM take control of Persia once again. Nothing has been done to stop the Khomeinist regime in what used to be known as Persia centuries ago. And, everything has been done to keep the Khomeinist regime in power in “old Persia”, in the last 32 yrs.


20 posted on 06/15/2011 9:26:35 AM PDT by odds
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To: silentknight
People ask me why I believe Russia will march on Israel one day

They'll be marching on horseback because the rest of the Russian milltary is in shambles/a joke (execpt for the land-based ICMB's).

21 posted on 06/15/2011 9:30:09 AM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: silentknight; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; ...
Ping to the End Time List.

Possible link to the coalition of nations mentioned in Ezekiel 38-39, better known as the Gog-Magog War.

22 posted on 06/15/2011 9:30:23 AM PDT by paladin1_dcs (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: silentknight

Russia is trying to not be the first hit by Iran’s nuclear bomb. They hope they will attack others initially.


23 posted on 06/15/2011 10:08:56 AM PDT by bestintxas (Somewhere in Kenya, a Village is missing its Idiot.)
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To: MestaMachine

Ping

Good ole Russia is getting into a defense alliance with Iran to “counter-balance” the military power of the West. Looks like China is in on it, too.

Not good!

Also, we have the Congress suing Obama over violating the constitution with Libyan war.


24 posted on 06/15/2011 10:13:34 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: lizol; Lukasz; strategofr; GSlob; spanalot; Thunder90; Tailgunner Joe; propertius; REactor; ...
Russia/Soviet/Coldwar2 PING!!!

To be added to or removed from this list, please FReepmail me...

25 posted on 06/15/2011 11:33:25 AM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: silentknight
Ahmadinejad called Wednesday for a security alliance of several former Soviet nations and China to form a united front against the West.

Like who didn't see this coming. It's been on the backburner moving right along for some time. Russia and China will let Ahmadinejad take center stage on this though...they are playing him to their advantage. In the end though....Russia will act with Iran and then turn on Iran, China will act alone...as always.

26 posted on 06/15/2011 11:38:04 AM PDT by caww
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To: Jeff Head

Reminds me of a book.


27 posted on 06/15/2011 11:42:46 AM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: Genoa
Things are falling into place nicely for a major conflagration in the Middle East. Just sayin'.

Yes indeed....and Obama is playing a role in it by weakening our nation from interfering. This too was to be expected as without our nation weakened they would not dare to act...and that's coming! The fact they are announcing this publicly now, likely they have their ducks pretty much in a row already. Obama has certainly given them the ground to work it!

28 posted on 06/15/2011 11:43:56 AM PDT by caww
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To: silentknight
I knew it as well but I believe it is about Eurasianism.

And it was popular in the 1920's, has had a huge surge of renewal in Russia in the last ten years under a man who has been on television a great deal by the name of Alexander Dugin. It is a form of geopolitics.

I think now they call it neo-eurasianism, but it is not new and neither is this thing with Putin and his asian buddying up.

29 posted on 06/15/2011 11:44:50 AM PDT by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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To: silentknight

Ahmadinejad needs to crack a history book or two. Russia has tried to extend its influence into the area since Peter the Great. Russian gifts tend to have strings attached. Some of them are chains.


30 posted on 06/15/2011 11:50:10 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: MarMema

Eurasianism was also highly popular with Stalin after World War II.


31 posted on 06/15/2011 12:15:12 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: caww
.they are playing him to their advantage. In the end though....Russia will act with Iran and then turn on Iran, China will act alone...as always.

You could be very right. Historically, Russia & Iran have Always been enemies. Though now, there is mutual interest in being superficially united. The history of China & Iran is very different, more congenial & out of mutual respect - it goes back a long way. I believe, end of the day, China is more likely to be a long term supporter of Iran against the West than Russia.

In your post #28 you say: Obama is playing a role in it by weakening our nation from interfering. -- If the 'interference' is done intelligently & constructively, then it'd be great. Otherwise, it'll have the potential to be counterproductive even destructive to the U.S. & others.

Consider why Khomeini & Islamic insurgency were supported in Iran during Carter administration, under the banner of *democracy*. -- It was the Cold War at the time, with people such as Brzezinski and other Carter advisors worrying about the Soviet influence in Iran. Even as the Shah almost had a pathological dislike of the communists in Iran and their Soviet masters, who had been continuously trying to instigate trouble & even partition parts of Iran, namely Azarbaijan & other Northern provinces such as Gilan & Mazandaran along the Caspian Sea. The Shah even took very strong measure against the communists in Iran. Savak was mandated to watch out for those Iranians, in Iran & abroad, who had communist leanings or sympathies, and arrest & imprison them - they were seen as a real & dire threat.

However, the Shah's efforts weren't sufficient for Carter & Brzezinski. They foolishly thought Islam in the guise of Khomeini, whom Carter apparently once compared to Gandhi & a Saint, was more of a counter-strategy against the evil Soviets (the commies). It didn't quite work out as envisioned by Carter & his luminaries. Ironically, since 1979 Islamic revolution, it is the same Khomeinist (Islamic) regime that has increasingly established an alliance with no longer the Soviets, but the Russians. And, has often shown the middle finger to the Americans.

So, to restate your previous point, "interference" can be good, provided it is done in a calculated manner to not backfire.

32 posted on 06/15/2011 12:53:13 PM PDT by odds
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To: odds
"Interference" can be good, provided it is done in a calculated manner to not backfire.

Obama doesn't have the ability to calulate this IMO. Someone is playing him as well, though he imagines it's his wit. He's really not that important on the International Stage now..apart from how much more they can milk out of country in revenues , and the Muslim nations are part of the deals he has struck as we know.

Russia and China have been cuddling up close behind the scenes for sometime. Neither give a rats dung about the middle-easterns, they each have an ultimate goal which is the resources in the middle east... and that's a silent war between them which will play out in the future.

Interesting they both see Iran's issues with Israel as standing in the way. Thus they have to let the Irianian leadership in as a player on their team.

I suspect Russia will one day join with Iran and go after Israel...Russia can't do it alone, history has shown thus, so taking them on as an alley, and ditching them once they have their armorment located throughout the middle-east, and in place. China will be mostly a spectater while positioning themselves to come into the fray once Russia turns on the Iranians. China's not about to let Russia take the resources without a fight if they have to, but by then Russia will be weakened....they'l come swarming in.

Course this is just speculating...but fun to watch the players. I have often said if you want to know what's happening just watch who is sleeping with who in all nations leadership.

But the US will at most be called on for their military and money...if that, and by then the American people will likely be fed up with war and let the best man win. Libya is a good example.

33 posted on 06/15/2011 1:12:43 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
Neither give a rats dung about the middle-easterns, they each have an ultimate goal which is the resources in the middle east... and that's a silent war between them which will play out in the future.

Fully agree

34 posted on 06/15/2011 1:17:12 PM PDT by odds
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To: caww
if you want to know what's happening just watch who is sleeping with who in all nations leadership.

Well, in politics I guess there is a lotta sleeping around, as required!

35 posted on 06/15/2011 1:28:45 PM PDT by odds
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To: Girlene

Remember please that Muslim slave traders went inland and brought the slaves out for sell to the West. The Arabic word for black and slave are supposedly the same word. When they went into an area they enslaved and sold those who were not Christian or Jewish. Slavery exists now..right now in the Middle East.


36 posted on 06/15/2011 2:43:34 PM PDT by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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To: silentknight

It is well known to cursory observation that Russia wants the oil of the Middle East and that getting the arabs to wish to venge or take the prey, Israel, is the conduit to that.


37 posted on 06/15/2011 3:25:22 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Girlene

He should look up Haj Amin al-Husseini.


38 posted on 06/15/2011 3:52:40 PM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: silentknight

The writing is on the wall. We should fix our fiscal house, stop policing the entire world, bring our troops home and begin re-equipping them, rapidly proceed with our own missle defense shield, rapidly develop our domestic energy capabilities, eliminate useless alliances, and all around focus inward as a preparation for the trials that will come; the century of warfare is repeating itself.


39 posted on 06/15/2011 3:59:57 PM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: paladin1_dcs
Thanks for the ping, paladin1.

The alliances of nations given in Exekiel 38-39 continue to form and grow closer and closer.

We were told 2500 years ago this was going to happen and now it is.

We are the generation which will see the return of Jesus Christ!

40 posted on 06/15/2011 4:26:16 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks silentknight.
Ahmadinejad called Wednesday for a security alliance of several former Soviet nations and China to form a united front against the West.
Ahmadeadman just blundered, imho. Probably related to hubris growing out of Iran's having orbited a satellite. Let's watch.


41 posted on 06/15/2011 5:25:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: americanophile
He should look up Haj Amin al-Husseini.

Nasty little man.


42 posted on 06/15/2011 5:28:24 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: Perdogg

:’)


43 posted on 06/15/2011 6:56:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: silentknight

from what I posted on another thread

Ezek 38 - latter days/latter years

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zuYCM0g2kc&playnext=1&list=PL610C440A9D2CD3BC


44 posted on 06/15/2011 7:00:20 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: tflabo

ping to above


45 posted on 06/15/2011 7:01:55 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: paladin1_dcs

Thanks for the ping!


46 posted on 06/15/2011 10:02:56 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Thunder90

Thanks. I did not know that.


47 posted on 06/15/2011 10:46:29 PM PDT by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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To: silentknight

The 1930s - repeating itself...................... You’re catching on. Good for you. ;o)


48 posted on 06/17/2011 2:25:46 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (The storm clouds of war are on the horizon, 1939 is again approaching us.)
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