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Lawmakers to File Suit Against Obama Administration Over Libya Operation
foxnews.com ^ | June 15, 2011

Posted on 06/15/2011 8:32:03 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012

A group of lawmakers plans to file a federal lawsuit Wednesday against the Obama administration, questioning the constitutional and legal justifications for military action in Libya, Fox News has confirmed.

The bipartisan group is being led by Reps. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, and Walter Jones, R-N.C., and includes GOP presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul.

Kucinich and Jones will lead a news conference at the U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., to outline the claims. But according to the complaint, a copy of which was obtained by Fox News, the group is seeking "injunctive and declaratory relief to protect the plaintiffs and the country from a stated policy of defendant Barack Obama, president of the United States, whereby a president may unilaterally go to war in Libya and other countries without the declaration of war from Congress required by Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 of the United States Constitution."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: congress; impeachobama; libya; obama

1 posted on 06/15/2011 8:32:10 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

git er done


2 posted on 06/15/2011 8:32:51 AM PDT by max americana (.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

fools. you don’t sue Obie to make him follow the law. you impeach him for violating it.


3 posted on 06/15/2011 8:37:46 AM PDT by wny
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To: ilovesarah2012

What I think of Kucinich and Paul aside (I’m not familiar with Jones), this could be very interesting.


4 posted on 06/15/2011 8:38:27 AM PDT by bcsco (A cross-dressed Weiner turns it into a Frank[furt]...)
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To: wny

Actually, a successful suit could be added cause for a case for impeachment.


5 posted on 06/15/2011 8:40:15 AM PDT by bcsco (A cross-dressed Weiner turns it into a Frank[furt]...)
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To: bcsco

I have always thought of Kucinich as a nutcase but I’m glad he is doing this.


6 posted on 06/15/2011 8:45:00 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: bcsco

I don’t think the courts will touch it. This should be handled within Congress.


7 posted on 06/15/2011 8:45:08 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

He is a nutcase. But he, like Paul, is being a consistent nutcase. We’ll see how far this goes, but any light that can be shed on Obama’s extra-Constitutional actions is good.


8 posted on 06/15/2011 8:47:20 AM PDT by bcsco (A cross-dressed Weiner turns it into a Frank[furt]...)
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To: Moonman62
I don’t think the courts will touch it.
9 posted on 06/15/2011 8:48:31 AM PDT by bcsco (A cross-dressed Weiner turns it into a Frank[furt]...)
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To: bcsco

Ditto to what you said.


10 posted on 06/15/2011 8:48:49 AM PDT by Gator113 ("GAME ON." I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Just hit Drudge.

This will be like Monica but oh so very much worse. Get ready for the real shit to hit the fan now.


11 posted on 06/15/2011 8:49:32 AM PDT by SpringtoLiberty (Liberty is on the march!)
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To: Gator113

I agree with others on this thread that the proper venue would be through Congressional action, but as another means of getting at the administration, I’m all for it. It remains to be seen how far it goes, but hey, I like the kitchen sink approach as much as anything.


12 posted on 06/15/2011 8:51:46 AM PDT by bcsco (A cross-dressed Weiner turns it into a Frank[furt]...)
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To: bcsco; Moonman62

Oops, I must have used a wrong html code. The balance of my reply was lost.

What I wrote was, it remains to be seen how far this goes, but I like the ‘thousand cuts’ approach.


13 posted on 06/15/2011 8:53:26 AM PDT by bcsco (A cross-dressed Weiner turns it into a Frank[furt]...)
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To: wny

This is an EEO case...you need a paper trail.....


14 posted on 06/15/2011 8:56:56 AM PDT by FrankR (A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.)
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To: bcsco

Agreed.

If nothing else, this should be entertaining and give Obama a headache.


15 posted on 06/15/2011 9:05:02 AM PDT by Gator113 ("GAME ON." I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Don’t sue, IMPEACH!


16 posted on 06/15/2011 9:17:19 AM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Right on, Dennis Kucinich! If he never does anything else right, he nailed this one.


17 posted on 06/15/2011 9:22:09 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: Clairity
Don’t sue, IMPEACH!

What's wrong with both?

18 posted on 06/15/2011 9:25:12 AM PDT by bcsco (A cross-dressed Weiner turns it into a Frank[furt]...)
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To: Clairity

Impeachment would be considered as racist.


19 posted on 06/15/2011 9:25:45 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: wny
fools. you don’t sue Obie to make him follow the law. you impeach him for violating it.

Yet another instance where I wish the founding fathers would have been a little more wordy. I wish they would have "spelled out" exactly what "high crimes and misdemeanors" meant. Kinda like I wish they would have spelled out " a well regulated militia."

Then there would be no debate.

20 posted on 06/15/2011 9:27:12 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: ASA Vet

“Impeachment would be considered as racist.”

...then just sue the white half...


21 posted on 06/15/2011 9:43:20 AM PDT by Hotdog
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To: wny

BINGO


22 posted on 06/15/2011 9:54:21 AM PDT by Lysandru
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To: bcsco

As I understand it the administration will provide a defense of “No Standing” again.

IOW, you don’t matter, are insignificant and maybe don’t even exist.


23 posted on 06/15/2011 10:15:33 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: max americana

It’s about time the little Marxist and his pals be reminded that they are not above the constitution. He’s a disgrace.


24 posted on 06/15/2011 10:21:56 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Vendome

That could well happen, but could as well be a difficult argument, since they’re congressmen and the filing is based on the Constitution and the absence of a Congressional declaration of war.

Just sayin’...


25 posted on 06/15/2011 10:22:01 AM PDT by bcsco (A cross-dressed Weiner turns it into a Frank[furt]...)
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To: NELSON111
I wish they would have "spelled out" exactly what "high crimes and misdemeanors" meant.

Well then, we'd be somewhat limited in its application, wouldn't we. Sometimes I wonder if it isn't better having been left vague...

26 posted on 06/15/2011 10:23:47 AM PDT by bcsco (A cross-dressed Weiner turns it into a Frank[furt]...)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I’d like to see them ALL go over and give the marxist punk a blanket party, Boehner, Reid, Pelosi, hell even Biden. All go over to the white house throw a curtain over him and pummel him with trash cans.
HEY I can fantacize can’t I?


27 posted on 06/15/2011 12:23:41 PM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: bcsco
Well then, we'd be somewhat limited in its application, wouldn't we. Sometimes I wonder if it isn't better having been left vague...

That works both ways.

28 posted on 06/15/2011 12:24:25 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: NELSON111; bcsco
They got around to giving some boundaries to "impeachment" near the end of the convention.

By that point they started with, “'He shall be removed from his office on impeachment by the House of Representatives, and conviction by the Senate, for Treason, or bribery.”

Why, it was asked, impeachment for treason and bribery only? Treason will not reach many significant offenses. What of attempts to subvert the Constitution? It was moved to add, “or maladministration” after bribery.

James Madison feared it would lead to too many Presidents getting the boot by hostile Congresses.

George Mason motioned to withdraw “maladministration” to substitute, “other high crimes and misdemesnors against the State,” which passed by a 7-4 vote.

The Committee of Style cleaned up his prose to the clause we know today.

I agree with the pol who remarked that an impeachable crime is whatever Congress thinks it is.

If you are a Constitutional junkie, join me this summer as I join the Federal Convention day by day as events unfolded in 1787.

Journal of the Federal Convention

29 posted on 06/15/2011 12:27:00 PM PDT by Jacquerie (We are no longer governed, we are ruled.)
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To: Jacquerie; NELSON111
Why, it was asked, impeachment for treason and bribery only? Treason will not reach many significant offenses. What of attempts to subvert the Constitution? It was moved to add, “or maladministration” after bribery.

James Madison feared it would lead to too many Presidents getting the boot by hostile Congresses.

George Mason motioned to withdraw “maladministration” to substitute, “other high crimes and misdemesnors against the State,” which passed by a 7-4 vote.

Taking this in context, without knowing further debate, one would take it that attempts to subvert the Constitution would be an impeachable offense.

As I wrote upthread, I believe we're better off with a more malleable wording...

30 posted on 06/15/2011 12:44:35 PM PDT by bcsco
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To: ilovesarah2012
Admirers of the socialist muslim terrorist Kadaffi have a new hero in congress in addition to Dennis Kucinich and John Conyers. One of the congressmen filing this suit is Michael Capuano from Massachusetts known for telling union members to "get out on the streets and get a little bloody when necessary."
31 posted on 06/15/2011 10:13:58 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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