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Report describes gun agents' 'state of panic' (Gun Walker)
LA Times ^ | June 14, 2011 | Kim Murphy

Posted on 06/15/2011 11:28:37 AM PDT by neverdem

Federal gun agents, concerned about weapons sales to Mexican drug suspects, begged to make arrests but were rebuffed, according to a congressional report on a controversial investigation.

Federal gun agents in Arizona -- convinced that "someone was going to die" when their agency allowed weapons sales to suspected Mexican drug traffickers -- made anguished pleas to be permitted to make arrests but were rebuffed, according to a new congressional report on the controversial law enforcement probe.

Agents from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives told congressional investigators that there was "a state of panic" that the guns used in the shooting of U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in January and two U.S. agents in Mexico a month later might have been sold under the U.S. surveillance operation.

"I used the word anxiety. The term I used amongst my peers is pucker factor," Larry Alt, special agent with ATF's Phoenix field division, told investigators preparing a joint staff report for Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Vista), chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, and Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa), ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee. The report will be released Wednesday in Washington, D.C.

Neither of those shootings was ultimately linked to the "Fast and Furious" probe, though two weapons sold to a suspect under surveillance were found at the scene of the fatal shooting of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry near Nogales, Ariz., in December.

Terry's family will be among the key witnesses at an oversight committee hearing Wednesday on the ATF operation, under which the bureau allowed purchases of high-powered weapons in an attempt to track their progress into the hands of Mexican drug cartels. According to the report and numerous interviews with The Times, several ATF agents regarded the operation as dangerous...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; batf; batfe; batfeisajoke; corruption; doj; grassley; gunwalker; holder; issa

1 posted on 06/15/2011 11:28:45 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
2 posted on 06/15/2011 11:32:06 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Joe Brower

Time to subpoena Holder and the head of the ATF.

This needs to get on the front pages immediately.


3 posted on 06/15/2011 11:37:10 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Sarah Palin, the only candidate to be vetted by the NY Times, the Washington Post and NBC.)
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To: neverdem

If they ever find one gun that was used to murder anyone from mac, the liar, daddy on down should be arrested and charged as an acessory to murder.


4 posted on 06/15/2011 11:43:47 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: chiefqc

You mean someone like, say, a Border Patrol Agent? That has happened. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry was killed with a gun that was part of this stupid program.


5 posted on 06/15/2011 11:51:30 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: neverdem

This reminds me of the Okhrana, the Tsar’s secret police. They were the principal source of supply to various revolutionary and anarchic cells towards the end of the Romanov era. All to facilitate ‘undercover’ work . . . which signally failed.


6 posted on 06/15/2011 11:55:57 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
This needs to get on the front pages immediately.

Let us know how that works out for you.
This will be buried so deep, so fast it'll make your head spin.

Holder's a black man in a black regime and no one's touching a brother.

7 posted on 06/15/2011 12:01:51 PM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: grobdriver

Fox is interviewing an agent right now regarding the murder of Terry. The story is out there for anyone who cares.


8 posted on 06/15/2011 12:06:13 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: grobdriver

I think you are right. No one is going to bother a Brother in this one, but I would hate to be the White Man that they do hang it on-—and eventually they will have to hang it on someone.

It has become too hot to hold. Someone has to hang, but will if be the right someone?
IMO this goes right to the WH.


9 posted on 06/15/2011 12:07:47 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Holder and obama said they didn’t know anything about this. And the idiots who voted for him and worship him still believe everything they say.


10 posted on 06/15/2011 12:08:26 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: neverdem
The version of this story on The Hill has one commenter repeatedly claiming “there's no proof any Gunwalker guns were used to kill American agents” and “this policy began under Bush”. He's taking a beating from the other comments, but he's sticking to his lying leftist RAT guns.
11 posted on 06/15/2011 12:09:51 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: neverdem

The truth of the matter is these agents should have gone to the press as soon as their superiors denied them the right to make arrests.


12 posted on 06/15/2011 12:10:47 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I don’t think it would do any good to subpoena Holder -

he’d just lie.


13 posted on 06/15/2011 12:11:17 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Army Air Corps

You are correct, sorry that I missed this killing of a border patrol agent.

I assume that the next step will be to find out who knew what and did nothing about it to be led away in handcuffs starting with mac, the liar, daddy followed soon by eric, my people, holder.

The white house is infested with people who as corrupt as posible and have no redeeming qualities.


14 posted on 06/15/2011 12:36:33 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: MrB
I don’t think it would do any good to subpoena Holder - he’d just lie.

I hope he does. Then he can be prosecuted for that.

15 posted on 06/15/2011 12:42:31 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: chiefqc

One can only hope.


16 posted on 06/15/2011 12:43:06 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Joe Brower

Hang ‘em High!!


17 posted on 06/15/2011 1:07:14 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Terry Mross

And get killed in a botched raid the next night?


18 posted on 06/15/2011 1:15:48 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: neverdem
abolish the ATF...
19 posted on 06/15/2011 3:16:12 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: neverdem
just NOT enough to do anything about it though... they were just following orders
20 posted on 06/15/2011 3:26:14 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: neverdem
Our ancestors would be shooting by now.
21 posted on 06/15/2011 4:55:18 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: Psalm 144

or Cheka:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheka


22 posted on 06/15/2011 5:06:46 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: neverdem

BATFE often takes big risk, they know that THEY are not the ones who will suffer from their activities.

WACO happened when BATFE decided they needed a big “Bust” to polish their own image.

This gamble was taken in the same manner, if it had worked as intended the media would be fawning on BATFE, for “Proving” U.S. gun dealers are the main source of cartel weapons, and enabling legislation to curtail our second amendment rights.
But not to worry, no one at BATFE or inJustice will take any real fall for this.
The principle characters at WACO retained office, none were charged despite clearly lying to justify their illegal actions.
A short time later most got promotions.

This will go the same way, “Conservatives” have a fatal inability to recognize and punish criminal activity whenever it is perpetuated by “Law Enforcement”!

BTW, it is illegal for any federally funded agency to engage in lobbying, but none are ever prevented in the least from doing so.


23 posted on 06/15/2011 5:33:32 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition (Loyal Sedition, often described as "To the right of Attila The Hun"!)
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