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Blood On Their Hands: Giving Guns to Criminals Was the Plan All Along
Townhall.com ^ | June 15, 2011 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 06/15/2011 11:47:12 AM PDT by Kaslin

“Allowing loads of weapons that we knew to be destined for criminals, this was the plan. It was so mandated.” –Special Agent John Dodson ATF Phoenix Field Division.

Damning new evidence from Capitol Hill shows that ATF Directors and Justice Department Officials knew about and encouraged the purposeful trafficking of thousands of weapons across the southern border, despite strong objections from ATF agents. Thousands of innocent lives were taken as the result, including those of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry and ICE Agent Jamie Zapata.

New emails released by House Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa show that ATF Director Kenneth Melson was briefed weekly about Operation Fast and Furious and watched a live feed of straw purchasers (who serve as middle men, purchasing guns and giving them to cartel members) in Arizona gun shops from his cozy Washington D.C. office. Emails also show that Deputy Assistant Director for Field Operations William McMahon was enthusiastic about the operation.

“An e-mail from April 12, 2010, indicates that Acting Director Melson was very much in the weeds with Operation Fast and Furious. After a detailed briefing of the program by the ATF Phoenix Field Division, Acting Director Melson had a plethora of follow-up questions that required additional research to answer. As the document indicates, Mr. Melson was interested in the IP Address for hidden cameras located inside cooperating gun shops. With this information, Acting Director Melson was able to sit at his desk in Washington and – himself – watch a live feed of the straw buyers entering the gun stores to purchase dozens of AK-47 variants,” Chairman Issa said in his opening statement.

Senator Charles Grassley, who has been working closely with Rep. Issa, pointed out that officials from the Justice Department have been stonewalling the investigation for months. Attorney General Eric Holder has said he is unaware of who ordered the operation.

“On October 26, 2009, emails indicate that there was a meeting of senior law enforcement officials at the Justice Department. It appears to have included the heads every law enforcement component of the Department, including directors of the FBI, the DEA and the ATF. It also included the U.S. Attorneys for all the Southwest border states, the Director of the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force and the Chair of the Attorney General’s Advisory Committee,” Grassley testified.

Emails also show that ATF encouraged gun dealers to sell to straw buyers, in spite of their own hesitance to do so.

"ATF encouraged gun dealers to sell to straw buyers. Emails prove that at least one dealer worried prophetically about the risk. He [a dealer] wrote to ATF about his concern that a border patrol agent might end up facing the wrong end of one of these guns. ATF supervisors told the dealer not to worry. So, the agents said it was a bad idea. And, the gun dealers said it was a bad idea, but ATF supervisors continued anyway", Grassley said.

Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was that agent. He was killed by cartel member 18 miles north of the U.S.-Mexico border near Rio Rico, Ariz. Agent Terry was a fighter-a former Marine who was willing to put everything he had, including his life, on the line for his country. He was dedicated to his job, his family and the United States.

“It was just ten days before Christmas last year, when our family received the devastating news; Brian had been shot and killed while engaged in a firefight with a group of individuals seeking to do harm to Americans citizens and others,” said Robert Heyer, the cousin of Terry, testifying on behalf of the entire Terry family. “Brian did ultimately come home that Christmas; we buried him not far from the house that he was raised in just prior to Christmas day. The gifts that Brian had picked out with such thought and care began to arrive in the mail that same week. With each delivery, we felt the indescribable pain of Brian’s death, but at the same time also remembered his amazing love and spirit.”

ICE Agent Jamie Zapata was killed in Mexico in February 2011 while on assignment. He was killed by a gun traced back to Operation Fast and Furious, however, Zapata’s family will never see justice. Once guns flow back into Mexico, they are no longer within the jurisdiction of the United States, leaving the government without any authority to prosecute anyone for any crime.

Three Special ATF Agents gave additional incriminating testimony. ATF Agent Dodson, one of the first whistleblowers to come out publicly against Operation Fast and Furious, provided details about the failed operation.

“I was involved in this operation, we monitored as they purchased hand guns, AK-47 variants, and .50 caliber rifles almost daily. Rather than contradict any enforcement actions, we took notes, we recorded observations, we tracked movements of these individuals for a short time after their purchases, but nothing more. Knowing all the while, just days after these purchases, the guns that we saw these individuals buy would begin turning up at crime scenes in the United States and Mexico, we still did nothing,” Dodson said. “Allowing loads of weapons that we knew to be destined for criminals, this was the plan. It was so mandated.”

And there still isn’t an explanation as to why.

“Allowing firearms to be trafficked to criminals is a dangerous and deadly strategy. The thought that the techniques used in the “Fast and Furious” investigation would result in “taking down a cartel” given the toothless nature of the “straw purchasing law” and the lack of a “firearms trafficking statute” is, in my opinion, delusional,” Special Agent Peter Forcelli said. “This operation, which in my opinion endangered the American public, was orchestrated in conjunction with Assistant U.S. Attorney Emory Hurley. [Emory Hurley is the same Assistant U.S. Attorney who previously prevented agents from using some of the common and accepted law enforcement techniques that are employed elsewhere in the United States to investigate and prosecute gun crimes.] I have read documents that indicate that his boss, U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke, also agreed with the direction of the case.”

There is no way to prosecute drug cartels in Mexico even if firearms trafficking had been successful in locating them. They are not within United States jurisdiction.

“I can’t think of a single, logical strategy as to why this would have worked,” Forcelli said. “This was a catastrophic disaster.”

According to testimony, it has become common practice for retaliation to occur against ATF Agents who spoke out against their supervisor's corruption, even when operations had no logical backing.

Forcelli also added that while the ATF was ordering gun dealers to sell to straw buyers under surveillance, gun dealers were taking the heat for it, and being held responsible for violence in Mexico. He stressed gun dealers were not the problem. In fact gun dealers were helpful in pursuing cases against cartel members, making it blatantly clear law abiding gun owners are not at fault, but the government is.

Issa said he will continue to investigate in order to find the truth and get to the bottom of the operatation. The government owes the truth to the American people and to the family of Brian Terry and Jamie Zapata, he explained. “There has now become a focus on getting the truth out.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; batfe; batfeisajoke; bootthebatfe; brianterry; corruption; democratcorruption; democrats; doj; dojisajoke; fastandfurious; fraud; govtabuse; guncontrol; gunwalker; holder; mythof90percent; obama; tyranny
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To: cripplecreek

I agree with you, it was to attack the 2nd and shut down lots of gun sellers cause......I figure the sellers of the straw sales they were forced to do would be shut down also cause the government lies. Then go after other sellers cause they are responsible for all the border deaths....ATF etc. departments are all corrupt to the core..


21 posted on 06/15/2011 12:23:14 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Kaslin

The large number of guns sold is the smoking gun. (no pun intended).

If they had really wanted to just trace how the guns were used, only a handful would have been involved.

The fact that the number is in the thousands clearly shows the intent. They wanted a weapon (no pun intended again) to use against against gun owners.

That in fact is what did happen. The media kept talking about U.S. guns being responsible for crime in Mexico. Suddenly the media has almost completely quit pushing that story.

I wonder why?


22 posted on 06/15/2011 12:23:51 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Kaslin

Felony Murder doctrine. Maybe if there were whores involved we’d be hearing about this in the regular media.


23 posted on 06/15/2011 12:25:35 PM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: Travis McGee
Worth repeating:

This scandal is a million times worse than Watergate, and the MSM ignores it.

It's good to be a democrat...

24 posted on 06/15/2011 12:26:01 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 875 of our national holiday from reality. - Obama really isn't one of us)
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To: BitWielder1

>>The REAL target: Lawful American gun owners and dealers<<

Wow....just wow!

Is this America?


25 posted on 06/15/2011 12:29:25 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Joe Brower

Of course it’s crystal clear. The problem is that most of the sheeple don’t have a clue what’s going on, and the rest know there’s not much way we can make things change in the present atmosphere.


26 posted on 06/15/2011 12:30:19 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Travis McGee
"This scandal is a million times worse than Watergate, and the MSM ignores it."

Travis, Travis, we peons must surely understand by now, it's not wrong when they do it.

27 posted on 06/15/2011 12:30:48 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: goat granny

I know the legitimate dealers were told to order more when they ran out.


28 posted on 06/15/2011 12:32:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Kaslin
New emails released by House Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa show that ATF Director Kenneth Melson was briefed weekly about Operation Fast and Furious and watched a live feed of straw purchasers (who serve as middle men, purchasing guns and giving them to cartel members) in Arizona gun shops from his cozy Washington D.C. office.

This man needs to be up on charges of Capital Murder.

29 posted on 06/15/2011 12:34:39 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Kaslin

Of course it was.It was planned so that they could prove their claims of US guns making thier way to the drug cartels even if that wasn’t true.


30 posted on 06/15/2011 12:36:14 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Travis McGee

As I recall no one died with watergate several people we know of have died due to this...how many we may never know? Obama and Holder have blood on their hands.


31 posted on 06/15/2011 12:38:53 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Kaslin

Do we have information on WHEN this was implemented? Was it hussein’s regime that started this....or before?


32 posted on 06/15/2011 12:51:54 PM PDT by battletank
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To: Joe Brower

Hang ‘em High!!


33 posted on 06/15/2011 1:20:55 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Kaslin

This was NOT an attempt to control the smuggling of guns to the failed nation state of Mexico.

This was an attempt by the Obama junta to get gun control back on the front burner & to energize the party to pass laws to make owning semi auto firearms a major felony and to plant in the minds of the non gun owning public that gun owners are the moral equivalent of cartel gun men.

Did the bastards in Washington D.C. know that people were gonna die ? Absolutely they are known to have basically bragged about what the effects of the operation were in Mexico & gloating about it . HEADS NEED TO ROLL !!!

Sadly however the guilty will walk because they are Federal LEO’s.


34 posted on 06/15/2011 1:29:48 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: JPG

Not yet & I doubt that it will simply because the folks in Washington D.C. will never be held accountable either in this country or Mexico . Americans have been murdered with the able assistance of federal law enforcement & the folks involved will get away with it .


35 posted on 06/15/2011 1:33:13 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: Kaslin

bfl


36 posted on 06/15/2011 2:09:44 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: null and void
“This scandal is a million times worse than Watergate, and the MSM ignores it.”

Anytime a Weinergate type scandal exists, it means that something is probably happening to contribute to the destruction of America. Just like Clinton/Monica scandal helped hide the selling out to China.

37 posted on 06/15/2011 2:41:19 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Joe Brower
As another FReeper pointed out on another thread yesterday...they were able, in record time, to provide Schumer, Feinstein and Whitehouse all the BS they required for their newly-published report...
I'll blow my own horn on that.

Once guns flow back into Mexico, they are no longer within the jurisdiction of the United States, leaving the government without any authority to prosecute anyone for any crime.
Yet throughout all of this the administration says this was allowed to happen so they could get at cartel kingpins.
This is what bugs me the most in all of this. This is all supposed to go back to the Merida Initiative and Fast and Furious seems to have been part of a new process launched by President Obama and President Calderon in August 2009 given the timelines.

So where does the BATF claim it gets its legal authority (which law) to arrest any "cartel kingpin" in Mexico as they claim their ultimate goal was?
And "who knew what and when" becomes glaring when you know that ...Operation Fast and Furious, started...in the fall of 2009.
And yet everybody is Sgt. Schultz...they know nothing.
No way is this passing the smell test.

That might not be the most well written thing I've ever replied with and I hope you get my gist.

38 posted on 06/15/2011 3:24:17 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: bicyclerepair

Yep, they are arming the thugs and disarming us. IT was not an experiment, it was a another pilot test for a wider program of extermination of the free in America.


39 posted on 06/15/2011 3:28:28 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: penelopesire

Many large banks make tons and tons of money from drug cartels, laundering it. And they in turn “donate” money to politicians. That’s why they like the phony drug war that doesn’t stop drugs, but keeps the prices nice and high.


40 posted on 06/15/2011 3:34:08 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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