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U.N. Agreement Should Have All Gun Owners Up In Arms
Forbes.com ^ | Jun. 7 2011 - 2:04 pm | Larry Bell

Posted on 06/15/2011 12:42:05 PM PDT by justlittleoleme

It may not come as surprising news to many of you that the United Nations doesn’t approve of our Second Amendment. Not one bit. And they very much hope to do something about it with help from some powerful American friends. Under the guise of a proposed global “Small Arms Treaty” premised to fight “terrorism”, “insurgency” and “international crime syndicates” you can be quite certain that an even more insidious threat is being targeted – our Constitutional right for law-abiding citizens to own and bear arms.

While the terms have yet to be made public, if passed by the U.N. and ratified by our Senate, it will almost certainly force the U.S. to:

1. Enact tougher licensing requirements, creating additional bureaucratic red tape for legal firearms ownership.

2. Confiscate and destroy all “unauthorized” civilian firearms (exempting those owned by our government of course).

3. Ban the trade, sale and private ownership of all semi-automatic weapons (any that have magazines even though they still operate in the same one trigger pull – one single “bang” manner as revolvers, a simple fact the ant-gun media never seem to grasp).

4. Create an international gun registry, clearly setting the stage for full-scale gun confiscation.

5. In short, overriding our national sovereignty, and in the process, providing license for the federal government to assert preemptive powers over state regulatory powers guaranteed by the Tenth Amendment in addition to our Second Amendment rights.

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1 posted on 06/15/2011 12:42:07 PM PDT by justlittleoleme
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To: justlittleoleme

2 posted on 06/15/2011 12:44:05 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: justlittleoleme
Not likely.

Think about it, would you like to be someone who is going to go house to house finding unreported guns?

You know that's ridiculous.

This is another one of those fuzzy wuzzy feel good things the Europeans come up with to make them feel good about leaving the Naaaiiiiitives to their own devices (which involves killing each other with machetes).

3 posted on 06/15/2011 12:45:34 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

There are enough brain dead unemployed liberals out there who would do anything for a buck. Ridiculous yes, but our freedoms are eroding every day under the guise of keeping us safe.


4 posted on 06/15/2011 12:48:01 PM PDT by justlittleoleme
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To: justlittleoleme

I don’t have any guns! 8^)


5 posted on 06/15/2011 12:48:27 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: justlittleoleme
Americans don't much care for the second, or the first or the fourth. Hell most freepers don't like the second. They want to limit what I can keep and license where or when I bear arms.
6 posted on 06/15/2011 12:50:41 PM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: muawiyah
Ridiculous?
Because it's never happened before?
7 posted on 06/15/2011 12:52:54 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: justlittleoleme

Party like its 1775!


8 posted on 06/15/2011 12:53:54 PM PDT by 95B30 ( The Professional Left: "Their morals are crooked, their take logic is flawed, their honor is stolen)
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To: justlittleoleme
Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison, The Federalist Papers
9 posted on 06/15/2011 12:54:40 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
I don’t have any guns! 8^)

What size boat was it? ; )

10 posted on 06/15/2011 12:54:44 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: justlittleoleme

Pretty sure this has been posted. It’s 8 days old.

Check under the Keyword ‘Banglist’ (which this should have) all articles on guns have ‘Banglist’ noted.


11 posted on 06/15/2011 12:55:59 PM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A.Einstein])
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To: justlittleoleme

When the blue helmets are marching down mainstreet, we’ll vote from the rooftops.


12 posted on 06/15/2011 12:57:17 PM PDT by Grunthor (Make the lefts' collective brain cell implode; Cain/Bolton 2012.)
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To: Condor51

So you don’t think it is important enough to remind people?

Or give those who missed it to see it?


13 posted on 06/15/2011 12:57:53 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: muawiyah

You must have missed these little gems:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=katrina+gun+confiscation&aq=0&oq=katrina+gun


14 posted on 06/15/2011 12:58:55 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: DariusBane

I know! Freepers are all like, Dude, carry your pistol PROUDLY but when I want to pack a nuke in the bed of my truck they get all liberal on me!

(dripping sarcasm alert)


15 posted on 06/15/2011 12:59:01 PM PDT by Grunthor (Make the lefts' collective brain cell implode; Cain/Bolton 2012.)
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To: EGPWS

30 foot Islander. 8^)


16 posted on 06/15/2011 12:59:58 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: justlittleoleme

The UN needs to get out of the US and the US out of the UN.

But, that will never happen since there is to much money to be made by members of Congress and other politicians by staying in the UN.


17 posted on 06/15/2011 1:04:08 PM PDT by FreeMaine
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To: justlittleoleme

Gun bans work.

Look at Mexico - guns are illegal there and peace reigns throughout the land. :)


18 posted on 06/15/2011 1:04:58 PM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: muawiyah

At this point very few guns are unreported, resales by orginal buyers is about all. The government has enough paperwork store with the gun sellers that they can most likely collect 80 to 90 percent.


19 posted on 06/15/2011 1:07:46 PM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Ratman83

But they couldn’t get them all on the “first wave” before the word got out and resistance organized.


20 posted on 06/15/2011 1:09:56 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Grunthor

That’s the deal with treaties...
Either our nation honors them or we don’t.

It won’t be “blue helmets” marching down the street to get the guns.

It will be local law enforcement, or the feds, enforcing a law based on a treaty that the US is bound to.

About the only way around this is to have to USSC declare the provision of the treaty in violation of the Constitution (which it is).


21 posted on 06/15/2011 1:12:49 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Ratman83
that they can most likely attempt to collect 80 to 90 percent.

Fixed it for you.

If it were to cost me my life to resist such an attempt, so be it. The government may attempt to "make an example" of some so that the majority would fall into line, but consider a community that is determined to resist such an unconstitutional move. The collectors would have a serious problem if surrounded by armed and determined citizens intent upon putting a stop to these attempts.

The true question is, what percentage of armed Americans are prepared to defend their rights to the death.
22 posted on 06/15/2011 1:14:59 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Ratman83

What would be the source of your statement?


23 posted on 06/15/2011 1:18:04 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is an enemy of the United States of America)
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To: justlittleoleme
Consider depths and materials. ;-)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Metal_Detector.jpg/300px-Metal_Detector.jpg


24 posted on 06/15/2011 1:19:04 PM PDT by familyop (Rome was burned in a day--twice.)
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To: MrB

Maybe maybe not but if they use all the forces including the military in one coordinated raid, it would do a lot of damage.


25 posted on 06/15/2011 1:24:59 PM PDT by Ratman83
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To: MrB

“It will be local law enforcement, or the feds, enforcing a law based on a treaty that the US is bound to.”

Correct. And 99% of them will be happy to do it and itching for the fight.


26 posted on 06/15/2011 1:26:35 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: justlittleoleme
The Leftwingtards are all employed. Still, they would avoid a risky job like crazy.

We've had this UN gun treaty thing up before ~ it's been discussed endlessly.

27 posted on 06/15/2011 1:34:31 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Everybody discussed the Katrina thing endlessly. That’s the only place it happened. A bigger danger to everybody turned out to be the cops just shooting people.


28 posted on 06/15/2011 1:36:04 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Osage Orange

All of the FFL dealers keep the records of their sales. Most people I know do not sell their guns they just keep them. Just my opinon on the numbers but I think I am close.


29 posted on 06/15/2011 1:37:25 PM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Pox

Oathkeepers...

I hope they’re as tough as they sound.


30 posted on 06/15/2011 1:38:43 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Osage Orange

Actually I may be high on that number, when I think about my gunss only 50% are recorded with a FFL. But even with one recorded they would come for that one and find more.


31 posted on 06/15/2011 1:41:03 PM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Pox

Yes amny will resist.


32 posted on 06/15/2011 1:42:01 PM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Ratman83

amny = many


33 posted on 06/15/2011 1:45:22 PM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Grunthor
2nd amendment is all about parity of arms between The People and the gubment. Do you believe that Lexington and Concord was about “sporting arms”?

King George sent troops to seize military powder and large bore crew served weapons. Lexington and Concord were specifically the reasons for the second and fourth amendment.

So where do you draw the line? Auto matic weapons or high capacity mags? What about walking around unmolested with a revolver in my belt? What about walking around with a long sword? At what point are you willing to abandon the Natural Law of self protection. Where does the pursuit of Life Liberty and the pursuit of happiness end with you?

34 posted on 06/15/2011 1:46:53 PM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: Ratman83
That's what I thought....Your number is a guess.

Thanks-

35 posted on 06/15/2011 1:48:20 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is an enemy of the United States of America)
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To: justlittleoleme
The fundamental rights of American citizens must never be the subject for outside interference. The right--nay in many cases, the duty--to keep & bear arms was fundamental to the Founders' plans for a free society, of individually responsible people. Indeed, George Washington wanted us to adopt the Swiss model, where every home was furnished with a military grade firearm, with the youth well trained in the effective use. (See The Right & Duty To Keep & Bear Arms.)

The envisioned interference with American liberty, would be a clear bow shot across the very concept of American sovereignty. No rationalizations, no pretenses, could ever render such a thing holy or acceptable. (And indeed, it defies all reason, in that it would serve no purpose but to undermine the social fabric, premised--as experience and reason alike make clear--on the maximum possible reliance upon individual responsibility, the sine qua non of personal liberty.

William Flax

36 posted on 06/15/2011 1:55:52 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

37 posted on 06/15/2011 2:06:45 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Ratman83
But even with one recorded they would come for that one and find more.

You can take my next statement as gospel.

When the government comes to your door demanding your guns you may as well go to the wire then. Because once they have confiscated them, you will be first on the list for a trip to a re-education camp a little down the road. The first to get picked up will be former gun owners. Bet on it.

38 posted on 06/15/2011 2:09:38 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

No guns here!


39 posted on 06/15/2011 2:12:07 PM PDT by exnavy (May the Lord bless and keep our troops.)
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To: muawiyah
Its all about doing this incrementally.

A little law here and a little law there and then the rights are gone. For Example:

Court expands police right to take guns from cars

Read more: http://www.greenwichtime.com/news/article/Court-expands-police-right-to-take-guns-from-cars-1391936.php#ixzz1PNgGjrdk

"Protecting the safety of law enforcement officers justifies removal of a gun that's in the plain sight of police, the justices said, and temporarily taking the gun does not violate an individual's constitutional protections against an unreasonable search and seizure.

40 posted on 06/15/2011 2:22:30 PM PDT by justlittleoleme
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To: MrB

The local Oathkeeper group that I belong to is led by a patrol officer from a neighboring community. We had the martial law/gun confiscation discussion in one of our group meetings, and I asked him what they would do if Obama were to declare martial law - his reply: nothing. He said they would not follow any order to enforce martial law and they will not be confiscating anyone’s firearms. The Sheriff is on also board with this.

We’ve got a good group of active and retired LEO’s and Militaty in our unit. And several of them belong to the same range that I do, so we get some shoot time together.


41 posted on 06/15/2011 2:31:51 PM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: MrB
Determination is paramount.

The Government may make examples of some, but what happens when an entire “confiscation team” is eradicated by a determined group of well armed citizens? That example, once widely disseminated, will encourage more patriots to stand up and fight for their rights.

I have lived a good life, I have no regrets, and if necessary I'm one of many prepared to fight for the freedoms of myself and my offspring.

Our forefathers sacrificed for us, and I feel we should be obliged to do the same.

This attitude is why I enlisted in the U.S. Army long ago.

42 posted on 06/15/2011 2:35:39 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: justlittleoleme

“....the United Nations doesn’t approve of our Second Amendment.”

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It is mind-boggling that this corrupt, anti-US organization dares to criticize the Constitution of their host country.

But it is even more incredible to see that no congress critter bothers to respond to this criticism.

Are they perhaps in agreement with the UN?


43 posted on 06/15/2011 2:40:35 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: muawiyah

Didnt they do the same thing in Canada?


44 posted on 06/15/2011 2:55:19 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: 353FMG
“....the United Nations doesn’t approve of our Second Amendment.”

Its also a good bet that they dont approve of our use of toilet paper either. Just try and pry *that* from my hand, never mind the gun in the other hand!

45 posted on 06/15/2011 3:03:52 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: Soothesayer9
What happened in Canada is the Liberals (their version of a Neonazi party) passed a law requiring gun registration for everything.

They spent several billion dollars on the software for the registration system.

It ended up not working because nobody would cooperate with the gub'mnt.

There were a number of "extensions of time" and all that sort of nonsense. Eventually with a Tory win (their version of the Democrat party, there being no Republicans in that country), they kind of gave up the ghost on the registration idea.

I don't think it's completely dead but the government isn't spending any more money on it.

I imagine it'd be far worse in this country. Just find out where the computer techs live who are setting it up....... and you know the rest of the story.

A national registration system could be easily disabled in this country by very few people simply by making it an unpopular working environment.

46 posted on 06/15/2011 3:23:00 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Ratman83

You a funny man.


47 posted on 06/15/2011 3:29:17 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Demons run when a good man goes to war.)
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To: Ratman83

“but if they use all the forces including the military in one coordinated raid, it would do a lot of damage.”

And when General Stupid goosesteps his Gestapo through Orange County and Huntington Beach, killing the families of Marines who refuse to give up their arms, how will General Stupid deal with the 1st Marine Division pouring out of Camp Pendleton?


48 posted on 06/15/2011 3:46:19 PM PDT by sergeantdave (The democrat party is a seditious organization that must be outlawed)
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To: justlittleoleme

Ya want my guns?
Come and TRY to get them.
I mean I was out shooting in the boat about 8 miles off Fort Pierce, Florida and a sudden rouge wave came and knocked ALL my guns and ammo overboard.
Yeah,that’s the ticket. A rouge wave.
Sorry, I do still have a ball bat.


49 posted on 06/15/2011 3:55:17 PM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: Pox
If it were to cost me my life to resist such an attempt, so be it.

Amen brother, preach it.

I've already lived through an accident that should have killed me, so I know what laying on the ground bleeding out is like, the kids are grown and gone. I'm killing time waiting around and enjoying myself.

If they come to take them, I won't submit.

I'm sure I'm not the only one in circumstances like that.

The Warsaw uprising should be taught to all gun owners.

/johnny

50 posted on 06/15/2011 4:09:57 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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