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Andrew Sullivan Formally Joins the Arabist Crowd
Pajamas Media ^ | June 14, 2011 | Ron Radosh

Posted on 06/15/2011 1:05:13 PM PDT by Kaslin

Last week, Eli Lake of the Washington Times reported that “[t]he White House is pressing Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to publicly adopt President Obama’s view that Israel’s pre-1967 borders should be the basis for future peace talks.” As Lake explained, “Mr. Obama’s position would effectively reopen border negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority that had been mostly settled in the last round of peace talks that ended in 2008.”

While the Obama administration has given Israel an ultimatum — negotiate with the Palestinians on the basis of the 1967 borders as a starting point - Andrew Sullivan cites a poll to argue that while Americans are pro-Israel, the same Americans who support Obama believe that the president is also.

That isn’t good enough for Sullivan. In an astounding blog post, Sullivan makes it more than clear that in his eyes, the American people are wrong, and that it is time for the United States to put an end to the special relationship with Israel that all American presidents, despite ups and downs, have essentially maintained since Israel’s creation in 1948. “There is no likelihood,” he writes, “that the US will do the logical thing and vote for Palestinian statehood in the UN this fall.”

Why is it logical that the US vote for Palestinian statehood, since the Palestinians, from the start of Israel’s existence, have made it quite clear that they have rejected any chance given them over and over to actually form a state that would live in peace side by side with Israel? Instead of supporting negotiations with the Palestinians that would result in an actual two-state solution, Sullivan accuses the U.S. of being an “enabler of Israeli intransigence.”

In his eyes, there is no intransigence from the Palestinians; only from the Israelis. The Arab Spring, he writes, “is a reckoning for the U.S.-Israel relationship.” Actually, as the crowds demanded the upsetting of rulers who have tyrannized them for decades; they acted without any mention of Israel. Their motivation was local and based on the forces the people considered oppressors. For years, their rulers used Israel as a wedge to keep them from rebelling. It no longer worked.

So Sullivan concludes as follows: “if Israel continues to refuse a 1967-based partition, the US should, in my view, end this dysfunctional relationship, until it can be re-established on saner lines. Ideally, as a warning sign, the US should abstain in September’s vote, unless settlements are frozen and talks begun.”

For Sullivan, then, the burden of making peace rests alone on Israel. Nothing is required of the Palestinians, who have for decades rejected every deal offered them. Of these, Sullivan says not one word. In fact, Jonathan Tobin of Commentary notes that President Obama is ignoring the importance of the Fatah-Hamas agreement, which effectively ends any true partner willing to negotiate a peace with Israel. As Tobin writes:

But rather than draw the obvious conclusion peace will be impossible until Fatah disassociates itself from Hamas, the president and Secretary of State Clinton are proceeding on the false assumption the PA will return to the talks and accept the concessions Washington is attempting to squeeze out of the Israelis. Instead of seeking to appease the Hamas-Fatah government, Obama and Clinton ought to be warning the Palestinians that the presence of terrorists in a PA administration will legally obligate the United States to put an end to the flow of American aid to the PA.

Jennifer Rubin of the Washington Post adds:

So it should not be surprising that Obama wouldn’t dream of threatening the PA, which is instigating the U.N. gambit, for forcing him to exercise the veto. It’s clear why Obama isn’t demanding a repudiation of the unity government as a condition of talks. He plainly finds it much easier to savage Israel than to stand up to the Arabs’ threats. And of course, in his view, Israel is the stronger power, so it must give up more to level the playing field. As [Mark] Dubowitz put it, ‘In the choice between a democratic, pro-American Israel and her enemies, who are also America’s enemies, how many Western leaders have the courage to say what Canada’s prime minister, [Stephen] Harper, said this weekend at his party’s convention: ‘Moral ambiguity, moral equivalence are not options, they are dangerous illusions.’” None, it seems.

Except, of course, for Andrew Sullivan, a man so delusional and so opposed to the only democracy in the Middle East that he sides with the very Arab regimes who, if they had their way, would throw a gay man like Sullivan into jail or put him to his death. A British expatriate, Sullivan clearly still feels at home with the long tradition of the Arabists in Britain, who, from the start, sided with the Arab governments and did all they could to prevent the Jewish state from being born.

At least unlike the J-Street crowd, Sullivan’s hatred for Israel is upfront. Unlike the others, he does not hide his disdain for Israel, and he does not pretend to be advocating a pro-peace, pro-Israeli position. Give him credit, if you can call it that, for honesty.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: andrewsullivan; homosexualagenda; lavendermafia; propalestinianwar

1 posted on 06/15/2011 1:05:17 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Sullivan has been and always will be a wacko poofter crank. He is nothing more than comic relief and not to be considered serious.


2 posted on 06/15/2011 1:08:58 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Everybody hates the Jews way beyond what any human society of its kind could deserve, it seems. So Sullivan finally gets around to doing the bold, principled thing and... piles right on!


3 posted on 06/15/2011 1:29:23 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: Kaslin

Andrew Sullivan is throwing the world’s longest homosexual temper tantrum. His Guru was Mother Meera, whom he visited many times in Germany and through whose blessings he received many sublime spiritual experiences. In addition, to help heal him of his neurotic paranoia over being homosexual, she actually let him and his lover live in her own house for awhile.

Then one day, when he was calm and understood that he was totally accepted as he is and all those other fuzzy wonderfuls he insisted on, she told him that, in fact, his homosexuality was irrelevent to his spiritual path. That she wasn’t trying to change him, but he needed to understand that his sexuality was utterly meaningless to her as a spiritual teacher, and had no place in her teachings of God, and would not help him reach God, and quite frankly, simply didn’t matter at all, in any way whatsoever, zip.

Andrew’s response was simple - he lost it. He denounced her, and kept on denouncing her, and then went political with his rants, getting more and more crazy and hateful and damning as the years have rolled on. In his mind, homosexuality is literally more important than God.

Personally, I think that there was a lot more she could have told him about the negative aspects of sexuality on the spiritual path, but restrained herself because of his staggering immaturity. Humanity has thousands of years of experience with spiritual masters encouraging heterosexual celibacy, or at least moderation, without even going into homosexuality as an additional subject. Because the point is the loss of energy that is needed to intensely focus on God - not whether he wants to be fabulous. So to say the least, she was being as gentle as possible with him.

Nevertheless, even a spiritual master can’t change someone who WANTS to be a jackass. And he’s winning new levels of jackass prizes - now he wants everyone in Israel dead or driven to the sea, and the entire country destroyed, simply because his Guru won’t praise what he does with his dick.

Go live in solidarity with the “Palistinians,” Andrew. Tell them you’re a gay man in support of their Muslim culture, and Mother Meera upset you.

Then see what THEY do to you.


4 posted on 06/15/2011 1:43:23 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on its own.)
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To: Kaslin
His new Moslem homeboys will not treat him kindly.

Frankly, the man is too stupid to pour pee out of a pot.

It is time to put this guy on the proverbial shelf and forget about him.

5 posted on 06/15/2011 1:43:49 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kaslin
His new Moslem homeboys will not treat him kindly.

Frankly, the man is too stupid to pour pee out of a pot.

It is time to put this guy on the proverbial shelf and forget about him.

6 posted on 06/15/2011 1:44:02 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kaslin
“There is no likelihood,” [Sullivan] writes, “that the US will do the logical thing and vote for Palestinian statehood in the UN this fall.”

The poofter Sullivian shouldn't be too sure about that. Hussein Obama is one vengeful SOB, and he hates Bibi (and Israel) with a passion. Plus I suspect the Kenyan is engaging in blackmail -- "agree to negotiate with the '67 borders as a starting point, or I'll vote 'present' (abstain) at the UN vote this fall."

Voting "present" is right in Hussein's comfort zone.

7 posted on 06/15/2011 1:44:16 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Kaslin
I fail to understand why (a) Andrew Sullivan's opinion is important to anyone on earth and, (b) where Mr. Sullivan, who lives comfortably in America, thousands of miles from beleaguered Israel, has the chutzpa to 'demand' that Israel, in effect, commit national suicide by retreating to it's indefensible 1967 borders. The man is delusional.
8 posted on 06/15/2011 1:57:17 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: Kaslin
the Obama administration has given Israel an ultimatum — negotiate with the Palestinians on the basis of the 1967 borders as a starting point

This is only half an ultamatum. I have yet to here the 'or else' part. Do you know what it is?

9 posted on 06/15/2011 2:00:41 PM PDT by tbpiper (Sarah Palin is the antivenin for the Obama poison)
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To: Talisker

THAT story I never heard before. I personally thought he went off the rails when he started taking steroids as hormone replacement therapy because of his AIDS.

It’s powerful hard to remember a time when I at least took him seriously, when he was actually considered somewhat conservative and could judge certain issues logically.

But they all end up seeing the universe entirely through their bungholes eventually.


10 posted on 06/15/2011 2:22:19 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: Kaslin

Apparently, this moron doesn’t understand that Tom Lehrer’s “National Brotherhood Week” was intended as satire, not a recommended personal philosophy.

Oh, the white folks hate the black folks,
And the black folks hate the white folks.
To hate all but the right folks
Is an old established rule.

But during National Brotherhood Week, National Brotherhood Week,
Lena Horne and Sheriff Clarke are dancing cheek to cheek.
It’s fun to eulogize
The people you despise,
As long as you don’t let ‘em in your school.

Oh, the poor folks hate the rich folks,
And the rich folks hate the poor folks.
All of my folks hate all of your folks,
It’s American as apple pie.

But during National Brotherhood Week, National Brotherhood Week,
New Yorkers love the Puerto Ricans ‘cause it’s very chic.
Step up and shake the hand
Of someone you can’t stand.
You can tolerate him if you try.

Oh, the Protestants hate the Catholics,
And the Catholics hate the Protestants,
And the Hindus hate the Muslims,
And everybody hates the Jews.

But during National Brotherhood Week, National Brotherhood Week,
It’s National Everyone-smile-at-one-another-hood Week.
Be nice to people who
Are inferior to you.
It’s only for a week, so have no fear.
Be grateful that it doesn’t last all year!

I will not be joining in the far left’s “let’s all hate the Jews” party, nor am I willing to stay neutral between good and evil while Hamas and Hezbollah lob rockets into Jewish civilian areas and the Israeli’s merely try to survive.


11 posted on 06/15/2011 2:33:19 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Talisker

“Go live in solidarity with the “Palistinians,” Andrew. Tell them you’re a gay man in support of their Muslim culture”

Maybe we can start a fund and buy him a one way ticket.

I am surprised he didn’t offer to “work off his fare” on one of the Gaza blockade runners currently looking to get sunk.

Maybe they turned him down because they suspect he’s a gasper...


12 posted on 06/15/2011 3:52:51 PM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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13 posted on 06/15/2011 4:20:36 PM PDT by SJackson (Normal people don't sit cross-legged on the floor and bang on drums, WI State Sen Glenn Grothman (R))
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To: Kaslin
Andrew Sullivan Formally Joins the Arabist Crowd

Why do I get visions of Andrew Sullivan dancing around in his underwear and a half open burqa singing "I'm the Sheik of Araby"?

14 posted on 06/15/2011 4:20:50 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Global Warming, undeniable truth; Obama, infallible genius; Apple perfect, invented everything)
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To: sinanju

I’d like to know why he’s still in the USA. He’s an alien with HIV/AIDS, has an arrest record, has a sick and very dangerous hatred towards Sarah Palin and is against everything America is for. But because he sucked up to Obama during the election, he’s allowed to stay while more deserving people are sent home.

His views are much more in alignment with his fellow subjects of Great Britain. Why doesn’t he go there where he can hate Israel with impunity?


15 posted on 06/15/2011 4:25:45 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (FR haters of Sarah Palin are wearing me out)
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To: Kaslin

Andrew Sullivan is a total ignoramus.
Doesn’t Andrew understand what his fellow Israel-hating Jew-hating Islamists do to people like him?
Time to start thinking with the head on your shoulders, Andy.


16 posted on 06/15/2011 5:06:43 PM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: miss marmelstein

His views are much more in alignment with his fellow subjects of Great Britain. Why doesn’t he go there where he can hate Israel with impunity?

Because the angry mobs in Great Britain would actually encourage him to get his head out of the wrong place it’s in right now. Chances are he has probably bee dodging the European episode of radical islam all these years, and needs to see the light.


17 posted on 06/15/2011 5:33:31 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Kaslin; SunkenCiv

Clearly Sullivan read “Lawrence of Arabia” and enjoyed the fantasy of the Turkish prison.


18 posted on 06/15/2011 8:33:13 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: rmlew

The British have always had a weakness for Arabs and Islam, and I think it actually does have something to do with the Muslim fondness for pederasty and homosexual activity, particularly rape or forcible sex. The British, or their intellectuals, at any rate, have always had a weakness for that too.


19 posted on 06/16/2011 2:49:44 AM PDT by livius
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Thanks rmlew.


20 posted on 06/16/2011 4:09:23 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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