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San Francisco Mulls Goldfish Ban
nbcbayarea.com ^ | June 15, 2011

Posted on 06/15/2011 8:15:56 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

First kittens, then puppies and hamsters and now goldfish?

San Francisco's Animal Control and Welfare Commission is recommending that the City ban the sale of goldfish, tropical fish and guppies in its borders, according to Matier and Ross.

The recommendation to the San Francisco Board of Supervisors is part of the commission's ongoing efforts to discourage "impulse buys" of animals.

The commission's ban would cover pet stores and breeders in the City. It comes after more than a year of study and findings that aquarium fish are often mass bred under inhumane conditions or stripped from the wild.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcbayarea.com ...


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1 posted on 06/15/2011 8:15:59 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY
It comes after more than a year of study and findings that aquarium fish are often mass bred under inhumane conditions or stripped from the wild.

From the wild? In over 50 years of fishing California waters, I have never caught a goldfish.

2 posted on 06/15/2011 8:18:22 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Eventually the Peoples Republic of San Francisco is going to ban something that someone there wants to have sex with. Then they’ll decide that government has gone too far.


3 posted on 06/15/2011 8:18:45 PM PDT by Huntress ("Politicians exploit economic illiteracy." --Walter Williams)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
First kittens, then puppies and hamsters and now goldfish?

Don't forget about the attempted ban on foreskin removal!

4 posted on 06/15/2011 8:19:08 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Aquarium fish are often mass bred under inhumane conditions or stripped from the wild”.

They could be talking about democrats!


5 posted on 06/15/2011 8:20:34 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a matter of fact, not a matter of opinion)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

6 posted on 06/15/2011 8:21:14 PM PDT by Brandonmark (News Coverage)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

““Aquarium fish are often mass bred under inhumane conditions or stripped from the wild”.

They could be talking about democrats!”

No. Goldfish are significantly smarter than democrats.


7 posted on 06/15/2011 8:22:03 PM PDT by Pravious
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It’s a darn shame such a geographically impressive city has been taken over and destroyed by such utter clowns.


8 posted on 06/15/2011 8:22:24 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (BUY AMERICAN. The job you save will be your son's, or your daughter's)
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To: Huntress

Yep, they can ban goldfish, Happy Meals, and circumcision. But they can’t ban public sex activity at the Folsom Street Fair.


9 posted on 06/15/2011 8:24:00 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Free ThinkerNY

aquarium fish are often mass bred under inhuman....

Maybe because they aren’t even remotely “human?”
Of course my tank denizens are typically of a higher intellectual order than the average liberal, so there could be a point here somewhere.


10 posted on 06/15/2011 8:24:33 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Next they will ban the vendors along Fisherman's Wharf.
11 posted on 06/15/2011 8:24:55 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This is the nuttiest story I’ve read in a while.

Further proof that liberalism is truly, yes truly, a mental disease.


12 posted on 06/15/2011 8:25:30 PM PDT by upchuck (Think you know hardship? Ha! Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Busy, Busy, Busy.

The Nanny State is always busy, busy, busy.

13 posted on 06/15/2011 8:26:37 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

San Francisco, as well as most of California, is beautiful place being shamelessly wasted.


14 posted on 06/15/2011 8:27:28 PM PDT by Gator113 ("GAME ON." I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: Gator113

The dynamic happening in CA is this, in 12 words:

Illegal aliends pouring in, to help themselves.

Liberals - tearing everyone else down.


15 posted on 06/15/2011 8:29:30 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (BUY AMERICAN. The job you save will be your son's, or your daughter's)
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To: Huntress
Eventually the Peoples Republic of San Francisco is going to ban something that someone there wants to have sex with.

You owe me a new keyboard. I snorted snot all over it when you made me remember the story about the gay dude who went to the ER with a gerbil in his rectum.

16 posted on 06/15/2011 8:29:35 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

These people give me a headache. Well, maybe I have a lower discomfort.


17 posted on 06/15/2011 8:30:23 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Liberalism IS A MENTAL DISEASE!


18 posted on 06/15/2011 8:32:21 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Aquarium fish are often mass bred under inhumane conditions or stripped from the wild”

As someone in the trade I call bullsh*t. I have toured the breeders my company uses. There are also limits to the number that can be collected in the wild. Over collect and you put YOURSELF out of business because the fish are gone.

Guppies and gold fish have been tank bread for YEARS.

Now, if we can pass laws like this about fish, how about allowing liberals to breed?


19 posted on 06/15/2011 8:32:58 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Goldfish are bait, food for larger pet fish, etc.

‘Nuff said.


20 posted on 06/15/2011 8:36:32 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
But you can rent goldfish at

Hertz Rent-A-Halibut or

at Avis-Rent-a-Fish or

Enterprise Rent-An-Eel at

Fisherman`s Wharf, Pier 666.

21 posted on 06/15/2011 8:36:53 PM PDT by bunkerhill7
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To: Free ThinkerNY

So what about all the restaurants and offices that have aquariums?


22 posted on 06/15/2011 8:38:54 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Such a waste.


23 posted on 06/15/2011 8:39:37 PM PDT by Gator113 ("GAME ON." I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

So what about all the restaurants and offices that have aquariums?


24 posted on 06/15/2011 8:40:01 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

id like them to defend in court the ban on goldfish yet while violating fed law regarding sanctuarys for criminal aliens


25 posted on 06/15/2011 8:40:44 PM PDT by mriguy67
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To: Inyo-Mono

I did once, but it was in Mrs. Patterson’s fifth grade class...;-)


26 posted on 06/15/2011 8:41:34 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: cableguymn

The laws of supply and demand are about to take Cali for a ride.

Today the democrats more or less sold California’s future. There will be no reductions in spending. There will be no checks and balances.

The state is on a binge. And it’s nowhere near closing time.

California’s plunge will be spectacular. At the end of the day though - all the freebies will come to a massive, screeching halt.

Remember how the common response to immigration control is often “you cannot deport 20 million people”?

Well. 20 million people can deport themselves the same way they got here, by choosing to leave. But illegal immigration is not the point I’m trying to make.

California is a mess because it has for so long been a magnet. Originally long ago, for opportunities and work.

Later for opportunities and weather.

For far too long now though, immigration to California has been for handouts and free stuff.

When the handouts and free stuff end (they have to, we’re broke) all those people will look and find all as a group where they can still get free stuff - and all go there like a hugh flash mob.

There will be millions who leave, remarkably fast. When CA starts to really collapse, the demographics will change almost overnight.

Either the state will in fact become one with Mexico. Or the liberals will leave and something far more about skills, and quality will emerge.

Won’t happen though until the left stops getting free stuff.


27 posted on 06/15/2011 8:46:07 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (BUY AMERICAN. The job you save will be your son's, or your daughter's)
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To: cableguymn
I'm somewhat puzzled. Do breeders use whips and cattle prods to force goldfish to have sex? You know, like on Folsom street? Trapped in tiny little fishy stalls, never allowed to play in green ponds, or stagnant puddles in back yards, like Koi?

And, what am I going to give my Oscars as playmates? They actually prefer live toys...

28 posted on 06/15/2011 8:56:34 PM PDT by jonascord (The Drug War Rapes the Constitution.)
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To: cableguymn

As a fellow purveyor of aquatic tropical specimens I vouch for the inhumanity of raising fish. They do not have beds or houses, TV’s, cars or cell phones. They are forced to live completely in water and are fed miniscule amounts of highly processed, dried flake food.
Tropical fish are routinely raised in large vats so filled with food that they grow faster than their wild cousins. They are treated for disease and live 5 times longer than they would if they were in a pond somewhere. They are not treated like humans. They are treated like fish, the most basic animal invertebrate on the planet.
Fish caught in the wild are handled with extreme care. They are treated for parasites and given time to acclimate to healthy, clean environments.
Tropical fish hobbyists are among the most skilled animal keepers. They are members of a hobby and tradition that is thousands of years old. Aquarists are rewarded with animals that are beautiful and adapt wonderfully to captive environments. Most fish respond by breeding in captivity, a genuine sign of health and a stress free environment.
How dare these ignorant fools disparage a hobby that provides lessons to children in actually caring for animals, not just having warm fuzzy feeling about freeing Willy.
Pity the child who never learns the sheer pleasure of raising a tank of guppies. Curse the hate mongers who would deny the blessing of taking care of a small animal.
Father Fish


29 posted on 06/15/2011 8:56:59 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This IS my blog site.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

In a semi-related note, my husband told me a story from his childhood. His home on 10 acres in Tulare county had a canal that ran past it. They used to swim and fish in the canal. One day they caught about 20 or so gold carp (koi fish), about 5 to 12 inches long. They brought them in the house and put them in the bathtub. When his dad came home that night he was none to pleased and all the fish got put back in the canal. It wasn’t until years later he learned how much they sell for in the pet stores.


30 posted on 06/15/2011 8:58:52 PM PDT by gracie1 (Look, just because you have to tolerate something doesnÂ’t mean you have to approve of it.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Why not be up front and just shut down all the pet stores and fire their employees, that is what their progressively banning pets will do.

They obviously do not need any jobs in the city, or tax receipts.


31 posted on 06/15/2011 9:00:43 PM PDT by verklaring (Pyrite is not gold))
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To: Inyo-Mono

Doesn’t this seem a little at odds with Fisherman’s Wharf? Will this include the Steinhart Aquarium.


32 posted on 06/15/2011 9:02:34 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (I am still looking for that box I am supposed to think out of.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Who paid for a year long study of goldfish breeding? And, is that why taxes are being collected? Someone is being robbed, and I don’t think it could happen to a more deserving sample on the Left side of the Bell Curve.


33 posted on 06/15/2011 9:06:44 PM PDT by jonascord (The Drug War Rapes the Constitution.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

They could at least ban those painful goldfish circumcisions.


34 posted on 06/15/2011 9:16:00 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Know your enemy and know yourself and you can fight a hundred battles without disaster - Sun Tzu)
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To: Inyo-Mono

You’re probably fishing in too deep of water.

The ideal location is about a foot of water, with glass lined shores.


35 posted on 06/15/2011 9:23:02 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Asians, Chinese & Japanese in ChinaTown and JapanTown in particular, are NOT going to like this mandate.

Especially restaurants.
36 posted on 06/15/2011 9:23:07 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito Ergo Conservitus.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Ok, so, let me get this right...

I can kill a kid, but I cannot circumcise him. Got it.

I can eat a fish, which I do all the time, but I cannot keep one alive. Got it.

Liberalism...that is some wild wacky stuff there. It is like they live on LSD.

37 posted on 06/15/2011 9:24:21 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Looks like no “A Fish Called Wanda II”.


38 posted on 06/15/2011 9:28:59 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Come on San Andreas!


39 posted on 06/15/2011 9:31:01 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Louis Foxwell

The inhumanists want to remove all joy from the human experience. I think they are being led by the same spirit as Islamacists, who want the same thing.


40 posted on 06/15/2011 9:32:29 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Free ThinkerNY

YOU ARE ENTERING SAN FRANCISCO
Please Be Aware That Everything
That Is Not Banned
Is Mandatory.
Have A Nice Day!


41 posted on 06/15/2011 9:35:20 PM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them. -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Just wait until Lady Gaga comes out wearing nothing but a coat made of Goldfish in plastic containers. Goldfish will be back in vogue.

Then some pervert politician will come out of the closet and announce that he had sex with a KOI. Fish dealers will make millions after that.

The old saying “Is that a trout in your trousers or are you just happy to see me?” also will be back in vogue.

Calling Anthony Weiner! Calling Anthony Weiner!


42 posted on 06/15/2011 9:36:21 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: jonascord

Guppies and goldfish are like rats. They breed all the time.


43 posted on 06/15/2011 9:36:31 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: chaosagent

Have them call me. That’s what I do. Keep their tanks in tip top shape.


44 posted on 06/15/2011 9:38:26 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: Free ThinkerNY

WHEN THEY PRY THEM FROM MY COLD, DEAD, FISH TANK.


45 posted on 06/15/2011 9:38:49 PM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: cableguymn
Guppies and goldfish are like rats. They breed all the time.

Ban guppies, too.

(ditto for rats)

46 posted on 06/15/2011 9:40:28 PM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

LOL, those San Fransicko Nazis are busy!


47 posted on 06/15/2011 9:42:14 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Gator113
Time to clean the gene pool. We need to irradicate liberals.
48 posted on 06/15/2011 9:42:53 PM PDT by 23 Everest ( 831 Bonnie)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Maybe it is time to sell San Francisco? It's San Frantastic!
49 posted on 06/15/2011 9:48:59 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Huntress

“Eventually the Peoples Republic of San Francisco is going to ban something that someone there wants to have sex with. Then they’ll decide that government has gone too far.”

Well, in other words, gerbils are still A-OK there, I suppose.

I have mixed feelings on these bans because animals can give an early warning for earthquakes.


50 posted on 06/15/2011 10:42:07 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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