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Putnam County man mauled by pit bulls dies (Florida)
St. Augustine Record ^ | June 16, 2011 | swampsniper

Posted on 06/16/2011 2:31:39 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER

A Putnam County man mauled by two pit bulls last week died late Wednesday afternoon after being taken off life support. Roy McSweeney, 74, suffered brain damage from severe blood loss that occurred when the dogs severed one arm, partially removed the other and attacked his face, said Jennifer Biewend, his family's attorney. Capt. Johnny Greenwood of the Sheriff's Office said he was pronounced dead at 4:18 p.m.

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KEYWORDS: death; fleshwound; mauling; mcsweeney; pitbull; roymcsweeney
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I've been laughed at for packing when I'm out in the yard. This seems like a good reason to continue.
1 posted on 06/16/2011 2:31:46 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
brain damage from severe blood loss that occurred when the dogs severed one arm, partially removed the other and attacked his face

So, pretty much just a flesh wound.

2 posted on 06/16/2011 2:34:21 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (I fight gangs for local charities and stuff.)
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To: Ready4Freddy
One arm was off and they had to amputate the other one.

I can't imagine living with no arms at my age anyway, there are already too mny things I can't do any more, so maybe he is better off now.

3 posted on 06/16/2011 2:40:29 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a matter of fact, not a matter of opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Very, very sad.

So, are the dog’s owners up for manslaughter charges, now?

The -should- be.


4 posted on 06/16/2011 2:42:57 AM PDT by Salamander (I wear my sunglasses at night.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

In FL, if your dogs attack someone who has come on your property without your permission, the dogs cannot be certified dangerous.

If they leave the property and attack someone, then they are dangerous.

I ran into this problem a couple of months ago when a pit bull (with jewels intact and almost 100 lbs) attacked my cat on my property. He traveled a long way to do it. I miss my buddy kitty something awful. Animal control came to me to find info to go after the dog owner.

I have two working breed dogs to protect the property, and the sheriff clarified this for me.

I can tell you AC in FL is terribly understaffed and finds it hard to follow up on all but the worst cases


5 posted on 06/16/2011 2:43:19 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Murder charges should be brought against the dogs owner and property owner.

First, no one should have to live in fear on their own property.

Second, the dogs were clearly very dangerous and little was done to contain them.

Manslaughter at a minimum.


6 posted on 06/16/2011 2:45:25 AM PDT by DB
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Multiple attacks on different people by the dogs.

McSweeney's family has an attorney? Civil suit is already in progress -- and the lawyer will wind up owning anything of value the dog's owner has or ever will have.

7 posted on 06/16/2011 2:49:23 AM PDT by Quiller (When you're fighting to survive, there is no "try" -- there is only do, or do not.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I love dogs but this is enough— this breed is deadly and can’t be controlled. What happened with this elderly man and countless mauled and destroyed children cannot be allowed to continue. People aren’t allowed to keep uncaged tigers.


8 posted on 06/16/2011 2:54:57 AM PDT by Havisham
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To: Ready4Freddy

You’re a real comedian, funny boy. You ought to be ashamed. These pit bulls and their owners ought to be shot.


9 posted on 06/16/2011 2:57:52 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

breeds dont kill people....Dogs do

each dog needs to be evaluated individually...people who train pit bulls for the ring dangle kittens in the face of them and then let them tear said kittens apart....it is training...

Lots of despicable idiots out there that are the cause of unspeakable maiming, and death...over more than 50 years of dog ownership, my dogs would not hurt a person, another ‘friendly’ dog or a cat...


10 posted on 06/16/2011 3:12:36 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Havisham

bullcrap...

read my # 10....it is NOT the breed.


11 posted on 06/16/2011 3:14:30 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

About the same time and not far away in Hawthorne a man was killed with a pick axe by his daughter while his wife, her mother watched.


12 posted on 06/16/2011 3:20:13 AM PDT by libbylu (Game On!)
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To: libbylu

Is her name Lizzy?


13 posted on 06/16/2011 3:41:43 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a matter of fact, not a matter of opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
the dogs severed one arm, partially removed the other

Whoa. Those are some strong dogs.

14 posted on 06/16/2011 3:50:53 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER; Joe 6-pack

Pit Bulls and/or gators would be reason enough!


15 posted on 06/16/2011 4:15:23 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, this breed needs t be exterminated.

...and save the comments, I won’t respond and I will not change my mind.


16 posted on 06/16/2011 4:18:00 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland (!@)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

The pit bull breed needs to end. I’m certain the owner of these dogs said something along the lines of “My dogs would never hurt anyone, they are gentle!”

The breed itself was developed to be vicious.

There are only two kinds of pit bulls. Those that have attacked humans and those that will attack humans.


17 posted on 06/16/2011 4:28:38 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Havisham
Border Collie mauls boy

I own a border collie.

BLACK LAB mauls boy

A Black lab? REALLY?

Meanwhile, I have 2 pits in my dog obedience training class, and they are the best students. Very attentive and smart.

My border collie had part of her ear ripped off from a Pembroke Welsh Corgi. A corgi!

It's not the dog, it's the owner. Bully breeds like pits, dobies, and rotties need consistent and firm leadership in the home. They are not dogs that can be left to lay around the house without exercise or mental stimulation.

My uncle's 6 year old purebred pit bull was born into conformation and regularly places in state shows. He will run alongside me on my bike for miles and it just a big slobberhound.

Pit bulls are predisposed to aggression, but with proper leadership, ownership, discipline, and attention, they are as loyal and well-behaved as any other breed.

18 posted on 06/16/2011 4:29:58 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Salamander

They would be held criminally responsible in my state. It was codified into law a few years back after an elderly lady and her little dog were ripped to pieces by two Pit Bulls running loose. Happened not one mile from my front door. The law makes no distinction as to breed. If your dog (any breed) injures or kills somebody, you will face criminal charges. Since the law was passed, “problem” dogs became a problem only for their owners. Just this week, a local man was found dead in his townhouse. Killed by his own two Pit Bulls. They had attacked him before. He was stupid enough to keep them, and paid the price.


19 posted on 06/16/2011 4:31:06 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Prayers for this man. I knew when I read the original post about this happening, he would have a rough time medically. What bothers me is how vicious and violent this attack must have been and how much suffering this man went through for fifteen days. Prayers for his family.


20 posted on 06/16/2011 4:32:31 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Vaquero
breeds dont kill people....Dogs do

There are many cases of these attacks occurring where the dogs involved had never gone to the Michael Vick dogfighting academy. The way I see it, these animals are as bloodthirsty as many small dogs, but don't limit themselves to attacking rats and squirrels.

The probability of these incidents seems to rise when there are two or more pit bulls. That's not a trained ring-fighting trait, it's a pack-hunting instinct... and humans are on the target list.

21 posted on 06/16/2011 4:38:26 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: John O

Wow. How “conservative” of you to want to decide what kind of dogs other people should be allowed to own! (/sarcasm)

Right now our pit bull is curled up with our 5-year old. In your plan, I wonder if, after you’ve deprived your fellow citizens of their family pets and property, what you’ll turn your attention towards next? Maybe in your next fit of “conservatism” you’ll get rid of all those guns that kill people (/sarcasm)


22 posted on 06/16/2011 5:05:27 AM PDT by SquarePants
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To: SquarePants; John O
you’ll get rid of all those guns that kill people....

_________________________________

I'm all for that....now, which guns have a history of killing all on their own?

23 posted on 06/16/2011 5:19:51 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: John O

Pit Bulls were the trench dogs of the Marines in WWI. They were bred as fighting dogs, as in to attack people. That is what the breed is for, attacking people. It is their instinct. They should be outlawed.

Owners whose pit bulls attack people should be charged as accessories to attempted murder. When pit bulls attack a child owners should be charged with accesory to assault upon a minor along with attempted murder.

Sue-the-crap out of the owners and throw them in prison!

Ignorance and aggression against the innocent must be punished.


25 posted on 06/16/2011 5:43:12 AM PDT by Justa
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
The only safe pit bull is a room temperature pit bull, do you duty clean the neighborhood.
26 posted on 06/16/2011 6:22:16 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: rarestia

My son brought home a pit bull puppy 10 years ago. He is a freaking lap dog, cuddler. 60 pounds, lets the cat boss him around. Very mellow companion.


27 posted on 06/16/2011 6:54:34 AM PDT by libbylu (Game On!)
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To: libbylu

Get them as puppies and be firm and consistent, any dog is capable of being a fluffball; however, they’re still animals and any breed can lash out if threatened, regardless of the perception of the threat.

That being said, I would be weary about any dog from the pound since their pedigree is often questionable and their upbringing unknown.


29 posted on 06/16/2011 7:08:56 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia
That being said, I would be weary about any dog from the pound since their pedigree is often questionable and their upbringing unknown.

I currently have 2 Brittanies...I have had Shepherds, pit bulls, labs, I have had dogs from the pounds....

I do not allow my dogs to hurt people and my cats...they are all sweethearts either by nature or nurture....some take more training than others...but my mutts from the pound were always more sweet from the get go...

30 posted on 06/16/2011 7:27:10 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero

Please don’t misunderstand; I’ve had numerous pound pups and had nothing but pleasant experiences with them all. I simple mean to say that pit bulls are often given up to the ASPCA or HSUS because the owners cannot wrangle them properly. Some of them can be troublesome. It’s just a matter of being careful.


31 posted on 06/16/2011 7:31:40 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Dreadful monsters. RIP.


32 posted on 06/16/2011 8:07:37 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: PowderMonkey

In MD, you are responsible for loss of livestock and must pay fair market value.

[for a 500 pound Angus, that’s some money]

God forbid your dog kill a Sacred Whitetail...now you’re looking at a felony charge and $10K fine.

If you are referring to the Lakeview guy, you have the ‘dogs kill man story” wrong, I’m afraid.

They suspect he OD’ed and the dog gnawed on him long after the fact.

“An autopsy of a 25-year-old Lake View man whose dog chewed portions of his upper body after his death proved inconclusive Wednesday, pending additional tests.

Matthew Lebold, of the 3400 block of North Janssen Avenue, was found in his home and pronounced dead at 1:13 p.m., according to the Cook County Medical Examiner’s office.

Sources said Lebold apparently overdosed on drugs, but an autopsy Wednesday proved inconclusive pending the results of toxicology tests, according to the medical examiner’s office.

The body had been there for at least a couple of days and was already decomposing, according to a source.

A pit bull had eaten through parts of the man’s face, neck and chest after he was dead, the source said.

Police found the man dead at 12:27 p.m., News Affairs Officer Veejay Zala said.”

It was *a* dog, not “dogs” and the dog did NOT kill him.

Please refrain from “rewriting” facts.

There have been *plenty* of stories where pets [cats, dogs, etc] have gnawed on their already deceased owners.

That may not be an especially pleasant thought but if you were a starving animal trapped in a house with no food, what would you do?


33 posted on 06/16/2011 9:28:10 AM PDT by Salamander (I wear my sunglasses at night.)
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To: caver

The dogs are dead.

Far as I know, the “responsible owners” are still walking free and probably will remain as such.

Nothing like a good scapegoat dying for your sins.


34 posted on 06/16/2011 9:30:15 AM PDT by Salamander (I wear my sunglasses at night.)
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To: Vaquero

You have a foul mouth. And don’t tell me what to read.


35 posted on 06/16/2011 9:32:12 AM PDT by Havisham
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To: libbylu
Ban pit pick ax daughters.
36 posted on 06/16/2011 9:32:41 AM PDT by Salamander (I wear my sunglasses at night.)
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To: wtc911

I’m not sure of the caliber but in a bedroom where my cousin and his friends had been admiring one’s boy’s new pistol, one kid put it on the nightstand and it went off and shot another kid.

He died.

Nobody had hold of the gun...so I reckon you could say it killed all on its own.

My 4th cousin set his rifle down to climb over the fence near a graveyard and the rifle went off and hit him the thigh, back in the 40s.

He bled out in that very dark, very creepy cemetery, alone.

At least one hunter in my area, every season, has a “rogue gun” go off and either wound or kill him.

It happens.

We should ban them.


37 posted on 06/16/2011 9:40:20 AM PDT by Salamander (I wear my sunglasses at night.)
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To: rarestia

And when not properly trained they attack mercilessly and without provocation. That elderly man had no chance and neither will your loved one if an unhappy pitbull happens her way.


38 posted on 06/16/2011 9:42:27 AM PDT by Havisham
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To: arbooz

Hi there.

Fancy meeting you here.

;]


39 posted on 06/16/2011 9:43:31 AM PDT by Salamander (I wear my sunglasses at night.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

1. Large and/or aggressive breed of dog? Yes. Pit Bulls - bred to fight and ignore submission and keep fighting.

2. Running loose, often >1 running loose? Easily leaped over fence = running loose. Two of them packed up and ready to kill.

3. Prior aggressive behavior by dogs? Yes, they had attacked this guy before, and several other people as well.

4. Unrealistic expectation of gentleness from dogs by owner, often despite #3 above? Yes. She thought it perfectly OK for them to be in a yard they could (and had before) escape at will and to attack people (as they had before).


40 posted on 06/16/2011 9:49:02 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Havisham

All of my loved ones are proud carriers of respectable firearms. I’ve drawn on a stray before, and I would never hesitate to do it again.

Any animal is capable of terror. It just requires the right confluence of factors.


41 posted on 06/16/2011 9:50:38 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Justa

You are incorrect.

The original Staff was created *long* before WWI as a drover dog, capable of catching and holding potentially dangerous bulls to save the drover’s life, if need be.

They were also used as “catch dogs” for swine.

The sexually repressed and infinitely twisted Victorians then used them for ‘blood sports’ such as bull baiting.

They also used many varieties of terriers for mass ‘rat pit fighting’ wagers.

The sickos would bet on anything bloody and cruel.

As far as WWI goes,

“They make excellent companions for humans. The government employed pitbulls for WWI and WWII, Sgt. Stubby was 26th in the Yankee division in France. He helped apprehend a German spy and was credited with saving lives of several soldiers in 1917. Pitbulls were extremely valuable on the battle field, carrying messages back and forth.”

Please get your facts straight.

“Ignorance and aggression against the innocent must be punished.”

Et tu, Brute’?


42 posted on 06/16/2011 9:54:18 AM PDT by Salamander (I wear my sunglasses at night.)
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To: allmendream

And is she being held criminally libel for it or will the mob merely satisfy themselves with the death of the dogs?


43 posted on 06/16/2011 9:57:08 AM PDT by Salamander (I wear my sunglasses at night.)
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To: Salamander
She, the owner of the property, and Animal Control should all be liable.

As far as I can see the woman committed manslaughter just as much as if she set up an anvil to drop on his head if he walked into his own front yard.

Do you think the dogs shouldn't be put to death?

44 posted on 06/16/2011 10:03:30 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: SquarePants

I’m sure you keep that Pit Bull for it’s cuddliness toward strangers. Do you read? Your baby is not safe around a Pit Bull. I’ve noticed there are parents that get a kick out of placing their offspring in dangerous scenarios to see what will happen, ‘rescue’ them at the last second, and feel like heroes afterwards. The children, if they survive, will repeat this behavior with their own kids, or someone else’s unlucky enough to be in their care, in order to relive those crazy times with dad. It’s all in the diagnostic manual.


45 posted on 06/16/2011 10:07:38 AM PDT by Havisham
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To: Salamander

Poor or no training in every case...unless you really want to sell the notion that triggers pull themselves.


46 posted on 06/16/2011 10:11:31 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: rarestia

What a dumb answer. Kids can’t carry guns for protection.


47 posted on 06/16/2011 10:15:56 AM PDT by Havisham
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To: Havisham

I don’t have kids, sir. Non-sequitur.


48 posted on 06/16/2011 10:16:50 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Havisham
I tend to be wary of these bully breeds.

Certain kinds of owners should never ever own such dogs. But I do tend to see a problem becoming more and more evident lately...many of the 'shelter dogs' are turning up bully/mixes. It does make me uncomfortable for perhaps unknowing or ill-informed folks may be taking on some of these dogs.

But, many dogs can be just as unpredictable too. There are biters and then there are attackers.

And then there is this: The Dogs are Alright

49 posted on 06/16/2011 10:23:35 AM PDT by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: Salamander
You seriously want to ban guns?

If that is ever done, do you know who will still be armed?

I made a great sign for the door to Mr Ditter’s gun room.

{OWNER IS UNARMED PLEASE DO NOT ROB OR HURT HIM}

50 posted on 06/16/2011 10:24:54 AM PDT by Ditter
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