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Meet 'PJ Foggy,' birth certificate fraudster [Disbarred attorney organized 'birther punking' scheme]
WND ^ | June 16, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 06/16/2011 5:12:32 AM PDT by RobinMasters

This is the second in a series examining the role supporters of Barack Obama have played in forging fraudulent birth certificates..

NEW YORK – At the center of the network of Obama radical activists who forged and distributed a fraudulent Kenyan birth certificate in August 2009 was disbarred California lawyer William L. Bryan.

Bryan posts as an Obama operative under the username "PJ Foggy" and lives in Raleigh, N.C., where he runs a flower shop.

Under the cover of his username, Bryan and his associates have engaged in an aggressive campaign to disrupt any and all attempts to pursue legal challenges to Obama's eligibility, while seeking to ridicule in vile and abusive terms those who dare advance or support publicly such legal efforts.

In a manner reminiscent of Donald Segretti's dirty tricks during the Watergate era, interfering in the 1970s with the political campaigns of such Democratic Party presidential hopefuls as then-Sen. Edmund Muskie of Maine, Bryan and his associates have utilized the Internet to plan and promote their disruptive name-calling efforts.

Reading Bryan's many Internet posts, there appears to be no concern that advertising their activities to "punk birthers" might draw attention to the various state or federal statutes they may have violated to achieve their aims.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birther; birthertrolls; bomfordbc; certifigate; eligibility; fogbow; naturalborncitizen; obama; obots; pjfoggy; trolls
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1 posted on 06/16/2011 5:12:36 AM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters
OK, this is someone I've never heard about before.

But what should I make of it?

zero and administration is not AS guilty of fraud ?

2 posted on 06/16/2011 5:57:20 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: RobinMasters

Obama’s Original Long-form Birth Certificate (OLFBC), the one with the signature of his mother, delivery doctor, and hospital administrator, was sealed and archived by the HI DoH after the Soetoro adoption was finalized.

When an adoption is finalized, the OLFBC is sealed by Order of the Court and moved to a secure, separate location to ensure it is never used in a legal proceeding again. It is void and unavailable for anything other than juicy gossip.

After the Soetoro adoption was annulled, the COLB with a “date filed” of Aug 8, 1961 was created and filed in the early 1970’s. The COLB is the only vital record of birth for Obama that is available to used in any legal proceeding on any matter.

Obama’s vulnerability is in his immigration files with the USCIS, his travel records the US State Department, and the results of the document investigation concerning his application for SSN. It may be fifty years before we see any of these documents.


3 posted on 06/16/2011 5:58:22 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (BHO II naturalized as U.S. Citizen after becoming an Indonesian National)
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To: knarf

Bump for later.


4 posted on 06/16/2011 5:58:33 AM PDT by freebird5850 (Of course Obama loves his country...it's just that Sarah Palin loves mine!)
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To: knarf

“OK, this is someone I’ve never heard about before.”

Yes you have. You just knew him under another name. I recognized the name immediately


5 posted on 06/16/2011 5:59:18 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy; knarf

That’s William L. Bryan, not William Jennings Bryan........;^)


6 posted on 06/16/2011 6:06:10 AM PDT by Red Badger (Nothing is a 'right' if someone has to give it to you................)
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To: SvenMagnussen
"When an adoption is finalized, the OLFBC is sealed by Order of the Court and moved to a secure, separate location to ensure it is never used in a legal proceeding again. It is void and unavailable for anything other than juicy gossip."

Now THERE'S a law some energetic pol should set his sight on to repeal.

7 posted on 06/16/2011 6:08:00 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: AppyPappy; knarf
PJ Foggy..............hmmmm.........PETTIGOGGER!.............. pet·ti·fog·ger/ˈpetēˌfôgər/ Noun: An inferior legal practitioner, esp. one who deals with petty cases or employs dubious practices.
8 posted on 06/16/2011 6:09:15 AM PDT by Red Badger (Nothing is a 'right' if someone has to give it to you................)
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To: knarf

The purpose of sealing and archiving the OLFBC is to prevent identity theft. BHO Sr’s parental rights were terminated when the Soetoro adoption was finalized. After the Soetoro adoption was annulled, SAD Obama-Soetoro’s parental rights were terminated and Madelyn Dunham was named guardian of Obama.

When he returned from Indonesia, alone, Obama became a ward of the State with his case managed by an American Refugee Resettlement Organization located in Connecticut. His Connecticut case management adviser filed Obama’s SSN application.


9 posted on 06/16/2011 6:38:05 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (BHO II naturalized as U.S. Citizen after becoming an Indonesian National)
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To: RobinMasters

The Bryan dude is actually posting in the comment section at WND right now. Claims he is gonna sue Corsi and WND and has called the FBI.

Good luck with that....lol.


10 posted on 06/16/2011 6:38:17 AM PDT by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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To: SvenMagnussen
OK .. have I been in never-never land ?

I've never heard any of what you just said

11 posted on 06/16/2011 6:42:12 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: penelopesire

Look up the flower store this clown runs in Google. Looks like a lot of astroturfed comments about what a swell place it is.


12 posted on 06/16/2011 6:50:32 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: SvenMagnussen

great summary!

...and shows why the President, on his FIRST day in office, put not just college records etc under protection, but even kindergarden records...?!?


13 posted on 06/16/2011 6:55:13 AM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: knarf; SvenMagnussen

yep.
his summary was great, but it’s been here a lot.
...it also ties directly into his forged Selective Service form, and his illegally acquired, Connecticut SSN

(that he would have had to apply for in person, when he was a teenager in Hawaii???)

..hundreds of pages of it here. look for posts by
satindoll, little jeremiah, butterdezillion, bluecat6, Red Steel, ml/nj.
they, and many others, have done tons of research and hard work on this.


14 posted on 06/16/2011 7:01:23 AM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: freebird5850

bump


15 posted on 06/16/2011 7:46:38 AM PDT by Rumplemeyer
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To: RightGeek

He sounds like he is the astroturf king...lol.


16 posted on 06/16/2011 7:57:36 AM PDT by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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To: SvenMagnussen

How do you know this? Do you have real information to back this or are you speculating?


17 posted on 06/16/2011 10:41:33 AM PDT by Albertafriend
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To: knarf

No worries.

Sven just makes this stuff up as he goes.

You’ll never see even a whit of support for his claims.

Just more claims.


18 posted on 06/16/2011 11:52:37 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: RobinMasters; SvenMagnussen; LucyT; faucetman; warsaw44; ColdOne; wintertime; Fred Nerks; ...
Ping!

"Meet 'PJ Foggy,' birth certificate fraudster [Disbarred attorney organized 'birther punking' scheme]

Check out #3 and #9 for Sven's continued claims.

19 posted on 06/16/2011 12:12:03 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: SvenMagnussen

After the Soetoro adoption was annulled, SAD Obama-Soetoro’s parental rights were terminated and Madelyn Dunham was named guardian of Obama.

When he returned from Indonesia, alone, Obama became a ward of the State with his case managed by an American Refugee Resettlement Organization located in Connecticut. His Connecticut case management adviser filed Obama’s SSN application.

*******

Would you mind sharing your sources for this information?

Is it possible for an adoption to be “annulled”? Are you sure that an original long-form bc that’s been sealed because of an adoption can NEVER be subpoenaed in a court of law?


20 posted on 06/16/2011 12:18:59 PM PDT by Greenperson
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To: El Sordo
You’ll never see even a whit of support for his claims.

Same thing goes for your boy obama's claims, I'm sure he appreciates your undying support here.

Does it at least pay well or do you do it out of love?

21 posted on 06/16/2011 12:23:38 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: rxsid
Thanks rxsid.

Svens posts seem to make sense to me, certainly more sense then the fairy tales presented by the won and his sycophants.

22 posted on 06/16/2011 12:26:24 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: rxsid
"Fogbow is the No. 1 birther-debunking site on the planet.

I thought it was FR. ;-)
23 posted on 06/16/2011 12:30:08 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Speculation at it’s best...when you post verifiable information to back up your assertions...this is nothing more than pure speculation. It makes sense but where is the proof????


24 posted on 06/16/2011 12:36:46 PM PDT by shield (Rev2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: Las Vegas Ron; rxsid

” Svens posts seem to make sense to me, certainly more sense then the fairy tales presented by the won and his sycophants.”

I have to agree.


25 posted on 06/16/2011 12:39:48 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: SvenMagnussen; rxsid

BS...if obama’s birth was registered on Aug 8, 1961 as the fake colb shows, then his registration number would be lower than that of the nordyke twins.

I also call BS on the SSN because it had previously been issued therefore obama is using a stloen SSN. Period.


26 posted on 06/16/2011 12:55:35 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin; SvenMagnussen; rxsid

Yes, I thought his SSN was issued many years ago to a man now dead.


27 posted on 06/16/2011 1:20:52 PM PDT by shield (Rev2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: SvenMagnussen

I am tired of your hit and run. I have asked the same quiestions below at least three times to you with no response.

How about telling us what court Obama naturalized in since that would be a public record.

Also how could he qualify as a refugee since his mother and stepfather lived in Indonesia without fear. What reason would he use to get Refugee status? Please explain in detail.

Wha t Refugee Resettlement Organization was there in Connecticut?

Please back up some of your fairy tale.


28 posted on 06/16/2011 1:21:50 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: rxsid; onyx; SE Mom; hoosiermama; penelopesire; rodguy911; Fred Nerks; Red Steel; ...

Subversive, commie punk .. and this crew is rotten and embedded with them.

And if I recall correctly, the CAAFLOG JAG lawyers in the courtroom and commenting on Lakin were also posting and gloating on that depraved, leftist site.


29 posted on 06/16/2011 1:22:43 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: shield; rxsid
this is what happens when people try to analyze a matter to death, when in fact, the facts in their purest form, give one the one simple answer...obama has a huge problem with the “original” record of his birth, regardless of any later adoption as all that would do is seal the original birth record, not the registration number.
30 posted on 06/16/2011 2:10:19 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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and the results of the document investigation concerning his application for SSN.

Where does the SS# for Harrison J. Bounell fits in here???

31 posted on 06/16/2011 2:15:45 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; rxsid

We have heard the same dance and song from Sven frequntly, BUT never has he revealed any creditable source, especially with regards to the present SS# issued to another person???

I believe a Florida says if you are once adopted you can NEVER be disinherited by those parents!!!


32 posted on 06/16/2011 2:32:24 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: shield; patlin; SvenMagnussen; rxsid; rolling_stone; LucyT
Seems to me that Sven is what Rush Limbo calls a "Drive-BY" then speeds down the road to not been seen again???

He's now AWOL again when Qs are rolling in!!!

33 posted on 06/16/2011 2:42:41 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: SvenMagnussen
The purpose of sealing and archiving the OLFBC is to prevent identity theft. BHO Sr’s parental rights were terminated when the Soetoro adoption was finalized. After the Soetoro adoption was annulled, SAD Obama-Soetoro’s parental rights were terminated and Madelyn Dunham was named guardian of Obama.

When he returned from Indonesia, alone, Obama became a ward of the State with his case managed by an American Refugee Resettlement Organization located in Connecticut. His Connecticut case management adviser filed Obama’s SSN application.

This sounds like quite a plausible explanation to me. You have my interest.

34 posted on 06/16/2011 3:18:53 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

What are you trying to say?


35 posted on 06/16/2011 3:19:00 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: danamco
I have checked out his other post...he said zero went the naturalized avenue instead of Oath of Renunciation which he could have done any time before his 18th birthday plus 6 months....ok...where are those papers? He says they were sealed by BO's EO...His little explanations...still keep zero in the non eligible column...sounds like he has been coached by someone...without links...it is pretty much worthless....info...
36 posted on 06/16/2011 3:19:28 PM PDT by shield (Rev2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: El Sordo
No worries.

Sven just makes this stuff up as he goes.

You’ll never see even a whit of support for his claims.

Just more claims.

I am not familiar with his past posting history. I will certainly keep it in mind, but I will also give him the benefit of the doubt till I hear more.

37 posted on 06/16/2011 3:22:50 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Fair enough.


38 posted on 06/16/2011 3:26:23 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: danamco

Yes. He’s made those claims for some time now. Would be very intriguing (and damaging to Barry’s story) if true. However, the claims have been backed by nothing to date so far as I can tell.


39 posted on 06/16/2011 3:33:26 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: RobinMasters

The article makes me wonder if there aren’t several Obama trolls right here on FR posting disruptive and disrespectful comments on the despised birther threads. I’ve noted several users who seem to be fiendishly interested in debunking the eligibility issue and little else.


40 posted on 06/16/2011 3:50:20 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: danamco
especially with regards to the present SS# issued to another person???

Yeah, that does kind of throw a chink in his theory, you're right.

41 posted on 06/16/2011 3:54:23 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: SvenMagnussen

So the legal requirement to have ‘Amended’ on the face of an amended BC release is just somehting to ignore? I see, I see


42 posted on 06/16/2011 3:57:47 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Menehune56

Sven’s story is interesting, but another problem I see with this theory is the sealed original BC.
I was adopted, original sealed, I am pretty sure all I have to do is ask the Court to unseal it. I think BO/BS can do the same IF this is the case.


43 posted on 06/16/2011 4:40:47 PM PDT by charlene4 ("The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” BHO)
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To: MHGinTN
So the legal requirement to have ‘Amended’ on the face of an amended BC release is just somehting to ignore? I see, I see

This is something that I have pondered myself. My understanding is that Hawaiian law requires a notation if a birth certificate has been amended. At the moment, i'm operating on the assumption that this only applies to amendments requested by the parent or guardian, but do not hold in the case of amendment by adoption or otherwise ordered by a judge. Were birth certificates which were amended by adoption to require a notation that they have been amended by adoption, it would defeat the purpose of preventing the child from knowing they are adopted.

I've recently looked at Hawaiian adoption laws, and they have a quite extensive body of language regarding secrecy and privacy for adopted children.

Of course, at this point, I am willing to consider all sorts of peculiarities from the state of Hawaii, up to and including accidentally or purposefully violating their own laws. Hawaiian law says they will provide a birth certificate to any election official that requests it for the purposes of an election.

Yeah, I just bet they will. Even assuming they did, would it be the Original, or the Adoption amended version?

44 posted on 06/16/2011 5:23:39 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Well, since we have yet to see an authentic Barry LFBC or COLB, your guess is as good as mine.


45 posted on 06/16/2011 5:26:22 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: charlene4
Sven’s story is interesting, but another problem I see with this theory is the sealed original BC. I was adopted, original sealed, I am pretty sure all I have to do is ask the Court to unseal it. I think BO/BS can do the same IF this is the case.

I am adopted as well, but I have the good fortune to posses copies of my original birth certificate AND my "official" certified birth certificate. As a result, i'm quite familiar with the fact that you cannot accept whatever the state "certifies" at face value, because they will not tell you that you are looking at the birth certificate of an adopted child. They aren't allowed.

There is some evidence that Obama was adopted by Lolo Soetoro, at least under Indonesian law. I don't know of any evidence that proves Obama was adopted under Hawaiian law, but it is not a stretch to believe he was. (again, the state will neither confirm nor deny.)

For the office of the Presidency, no state should be permitted to play games with a question of eligibility. The state should be required to produce the ORIGINAL document that verifies his birth, signed by a witness to the event, adopted. amended, or otherwise. I suspect that document will prove to be an At home birth affidavit, as described by Fukino as half written half typed.

46 posted on 06/16/2011 5:34:13 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: RobinMasters

William L. Bryan aka PJ Foggy

47 posted on 06/16/2011 5:39:14 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: MHGinTN
Well, since we have yet to see an authentic Barry LFBC or COLB, your guess is as good as mine.

I have for a long time assumed that Barry's birth certificate, when it eventually sees the light, will be based on an "at home birth" affidavit sworn by his Grandmother, Madelyn Dunham. This notion dovetails quite nicely with my current working theory as to what is the truth. It also fits the description of what Fukino said she saw in the records. She described it as "half written, half typed", which is pretty much what I would expect an "at home birth" affidavit to look like. Madelyn Dunham wrote out what happened on a piece of paper, and the registrar typed it out on that same paper, signed and stamped it.

Call me nuts, but this theory fits all the available information of which I am aware, and makes sense besides. Till a piece of information surfaces which makes it implausible, this is what i'm going with.

48 posted on 06/16/2011 5:41:04 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: RobinMasters

http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/06/16/walter-fitzpatrick-reports-pj-foggy-disbarred-attorney-and-obama-supporter-to-the-fbi/


49 posted on 06/16/2011 5:44:13 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: RobinMasters

50 posted on 06/16/2011 5:47:05 PM PDT by kcvl
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