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Pop 'descending into pornography' says songwriter who launched Kylie Minogue's music career
Daily Mail ^ | 3:23 AM on 17th June 2011 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 06/16/2011 9:25:20 PM PDT by Niuhuru

Pop music is on 'a slow but unmistakable descent into pornography', according to hit songwriter Mike Stock.

Stock, who was responsible for dozens of hits as part of Stock, Aitken and Waterman and helped launch Kylie Minogue's pop career, put some of the blame on the rise of stars including Rihanna, Lady Gaga and Katy Perry.

He said they were among a wave of performers who 'have taken sexualised imagery, dance moves and lyrical content way beyond the limits of decency'.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: career; filth; imagery; moralabsolutes; music; performers; popmusic; porn; pornography; sexualised
He's definately right about that; another issue is that pop stars are dressing hideously indecently in public off stage too.
1 posted on 06/16/2011 9:25:31 PM PDT by Niuhuru
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To: Niuhuru

That’s not too surprising for someone associated with Kylie Minogue. She’s tame by pop standards, something I suspect is why Hollywood never allowed her to make it big in the US.


2 posted on 06/16/2011 9:28:34 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: Niuhuru

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Hello?

Anybody home?

This is

BY DESIGN, GROUP.

Planned for millenia in hell for our era

and

planned by the Communists and globalists as long documented many decades ago.

Why the surprise!


3 posted on 06/16/2011 9:28:34 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Niuhuru

Madonna descended decades ago. Today, it’s unfortunately the age that’s descending.


4 posted on 06/16/2011 9:28:55 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: Niuhuru

Prediction: In five more years, pop singers won’t even bother singing, they’ll just get up on a stage and f****.


5 posted on 06/16/2011 9:28:58 PM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them. -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Niuhuru

Is this the guy responsible for Rick Astley? If so, no punishment is too good for him.


6 posted on 06/16/2011 9:31:58 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Lazamataz

By then, pole dancing will be an Olympic Sport.


7 posted on 06/16/2011 9:31:58 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Niuhuru

Yeah, this reporter is right on top of things. /s

I wonder if they’ve ever heard of the idiot that decided she wanted to use the name Madona.


8 posted on 06/16/2011 9:35:11 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Muslim Brotherhood (renames itself) the Liberty and Justice Party. NOT A JOKE.tst)
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To: Lazamataz
"Prediction: In five more years, pop singers won’t even bother singing, they’ll just get up on a stage and f****."

They won't even be able to lip-sync, as those will be occupied on other pursuits.

9 posted on 06/16/2011 9:35:38 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Niuhuru

So this article isn’t about the Pope? Hmm. Must be time for me to go to bed.


10 posted on 06/16/2011 9:38:20 PM PDT by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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To: Niuhuru

Elvis started it!!...lol...Didn’t Ed Sullivan ban TV cameras from showing him below the waist??


11 posted on 06/16/2011 9:42:46 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Niuhuru

We descended there a long time ago. It was about 1985 when Tipper Gore heard an obscene song on one of her daughter’s Prince albums.

And even before then, there were concerns that records played backwards conveyed subliminal messages that promoted Satanism, drugs and suicide. While I don’t believe in subliminal messages, many rock groups did promote anti-social ideas.

Parents’ groups lobbied for warning labels on music, and now many artists release clean and explicit versions of their albums.


12 posted on 06/16/2011 9:43:57 PM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby
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To: Niuhuru

It’s a financially logically place for them to go. Nothing we can do about it. I counter it by listening to Black Sabbath and Merle Haggard, The Beatles etc.


13 posted on 06/16/2011 9:44:56 PM PDT by toddausauras
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To: Lazamataz

LOL


14 posted on 06/16/2011 9:46:55 PM PDT by Salamander (I wear my sunglasses at night.)
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To: Niuhuru
Pop, say it ain't so!!


15 posted on 06/16/2011 9:49:28 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Niuhuru
This is not anything new....I give you...Ohio Players Album covers from the early '70s...

"We is doomed...doomed I tells Ya!..."

16 posted on 06/16/2011 9:57:47 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito Ergo Conservitus.)
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To: Lazamataz

It is what happened on stage in the Weimar Republic in 1919....very vulgar, sexualized, homoerotic entertainment....it treats people as a ‘means to an end’.... people just are a commodity with no dignity and worth...Easy to kill people when they have no dignity and worth and use them.

Destroying any meaning or worth in the sex act, destroys the uniting factor between men and women which will destroy marriage.....of course, Marx hated the natural family because of the loyalty it took away from the state and from others in the collective....they want all relationships to be equally as important. Marx destroys all meaning to life and relationships. He hated God and God’s design of man and woman. His utopia is ugly and inhumane and one of serfs who live in fear.

We were warned of his sick twisted world in Brave New World. Everyone should have to read that book and see what this reducing human intimate activities to a commodity to be bought and sold does to destroy the natural family....but that is their point.


17 posted on 06/16/2011 10:00:34 PM PDT by savagesusie (Virtue is a habit of the mind, consistent with nature and moderation and reason. Cicero)
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To: Niuhuru

Lady Gaga sexy? My cat is sexier than she is. In fact, my dead cat is sexier that Lady Gagme.

Katy Perry is sexy. And she can sing when she wants to. Rihanna is also sexy but looks too slutty sometimes. Beyonce is sensous. Singing is so-so.

I miss the older singers who could sing and had classy looks, not slutty looks. Mary Wells, Connie Stevens (Okay, she only sang one or two songs but she was pretty), Linda Scott (my secret love), Brenda Lee, members of the Supremes, Crystals, Ronettes, etc.

I’m an oldie but goodie, but I also have good taste in music and women.


18 posted on 06/16/2011 10:30:46 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Niuhuru

The nature of art now is about shock value which is the easiest boundary to push. You don’t even have to be an artist to be shocking which explains the appalling lack of talent in today’s media culture. For example, how often do you see vulgarity passing for humor? Too many time with people like Bill Maher. However, true talent seeks out a challenge and confronts the harder things to convey. What is an example of a hard thing? Beauty is hard. Sex is easy but beauty is hard. But with liberal culture people have to be flattered, have to take the easy way out, have to be shocked again and again to remember they’re still alive and better off than that midget running around with a bone through his nose, have to envy the stars while thinking they are just like us regular folk... and so it goes.


19 posted on 06/16/2011 10:32:07 PM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: Tainan
You can tell yourself that the mainstreaming of porn is “not anything new.”

Where will they go next after they “progress” all the way into the gutter of heterosexual/homosexual porn? I am betting they go sadistic and start simulating the sexy beating and raping of women and children on stage. The Muzzies are going to love it! Maybe bestiality wil arrive.

20 posted on 06/16/2011 10:58:04 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: toddausauras

>>Nothing we can do about it. <<

I do believe that TV’s still come with an OFF/ON, don’t they?

Don’t turn it on and they can’t contaminate your children’s mind.


21 posted on 06/16/2011 11:15:25 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: Niuhuru

You can still find beauty, class, talent and great musicianship. You just have to avoid major label, mass produced, AutoTuned garbage. Here’s my preference. http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/lauraainsworth2


22 posted on 06/16/2011 11:22:45 PM PDT by HHFi
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

There was also Dorothy Dandridge and Diana Ross.


23 posted on 06/16/2011 11:37:09 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=FiMK9e0h6YE

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=0put0_a--Ng

try these two videos. She's an amazing singer my kids listen to.

24 posted on 06/17/2011 3:52:30 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat, they sh#t on.)
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To: Niuhuru
Pornography and overall moral decline. Our society has degraded in many ways. When I was a child the following was seen as scandal:

1. Unwed mothers.

2.Bankruptcy

3.Taking government aid.

4. "Damn" was about as risque as language could get. Hearing the "F" word was jaw dropping.

5. Interracial marriage.

6. Theft in any form or fashion.

7. Dressing less than modestly. Most of what we see routinely see on the street was reserved for the bed room.

8. Blspehemy.

9. Premarital sex. It may have been going on, but if it was it was kept quiet. Now days, I see the term "hook up" and "F buddies" as commonplace.

10. Overall selfishness. Even in my earlier days, I saw those with misfortune getting taken care of by friends, neighbors, and families. Now days the mindset of "what's in it for me", or "not my problem" are prevalent.

So I don't think that pop music is alone in the wave of sleaze that has overtaken our society. Just one piece.

25 posted on 06/17/2011 4:09:33 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: Niuhuru

It isn’t Pop it’s the Culture that is dying. The state of Pop merely reflects what is happening to the Culture.


26 posted on 06/17/2011 4:27:31 AM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Niuhuru
My wife and I took a cruise a few years ago and there happened to be a high school chorus on at the same time. Karaoke night was fun, since any random member of that high school chorus had more talent and a better voice than the pop "musician" connected to the song being sung.

The music is incidental to the rest of the act.

27 posted on 06/17/2011 4:28:28 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: B4Ranch

“Don’t turn it on and they can’t contaminate your children’s mind.”

Not true. Basically it is in the Cultural ether. It contaminates the minds of childeren whose parents have thrown out the TV altogether. Recognition of this truth is why our former Culture banned certain things outright.


28 posted on 06/17/2011 4:34:56 AM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: savagesusie
It is what happened on stage in the Weimar Republic in 1919....very vulgar, sexualized, homoerotic entertainment....it treats people as a ‘means to an end’.... people just are a commodity with no dignity and worth...Easy to kill people when they have no dignity and worth and use them.

Destroying any meaning or worth in the sex act, destroys the uniting factor between men and women which will destroy marriage.....of course, Marx hated the natural family because of the loyalty it took away from the state and from others in the collective....they want all relationships to be equally as important. Marx destroys all meaning to life and relationships. He hated God and God’s design of man and woman. His utopia is ugly and inhumane and one of serfs who live in fear.

I always find myself in agreement with your comments, susie. You're a deep thinker who ponders beyond the surface and views things in the light of history. My father was like that; it gave him an almost prescient ability. He didn't like being able to say "I told you so" though because he would rather have prevented whatever awfulness he was predicting.

29 posted on 06/17/2011 4:49:31 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: TalBlack
The Stranger

A few years after I was born, my Dad met a stranger who was in town. From the beginning, Dad was fascinated with this enchanting newcomer and soon invited him to live with our family. The stranger was quickly accepted and was around from then on.

As I grew up, I never questioned his place in my family. In my young mind, he had a special niche. My parents were complementary instructors: Mom taught me good from evil, and Dad taught me to obey. But the stranger ... he was our storyteller. He would keep us spellbound for hours on end with adventures, mysteries and comedies.

If I wanted to know anything about politics, history or science, he always knew the answers about the past, understood the present and even seemed able to predict the future! He took my family to our first major league ballgame. He made me laugh, and he made me cry. The stranger never stopped talking, but Dad didn't seem to mind.

Sometimes, Mom would get up quietly while the rest of us were shushing each other to listen to what he had to say, and she would go to the kitchen for peace and quiet. (I wonder now if she ever prayed for the stranger to leave.)

Dad ruled our household with certain moral convictions, but the stranger never felt obligated to honor them. Profanity, for example, was not allowed in our home ... not from us, our friends or any visitors. Our longtime visitor, however, got away with four-letter words that burned my ears and made my dad squirm and my mother blush. My Dad didn't permit the liberal use of alcohol. But the stranger encouraged us to try it on a regular basis. He made cigarettes look cool, cigars manly and pipes distinguished.

He talked freely (much too freely!) about sex. His comments were sometimes blatant, sometimes suggestive, and generally embarrassing.

I now know that my early concepts about relationships were influenced strongly by the stranger. Time after time, he opposed the values of my parents, yet he was seldom rebuked ... And NEVER asked to leave.

More than fifty years have passed since the stranger moved in with our family. He has blended right in and is not nearly as fascinating as he was at first. Still, if you could walk into my parents' den today, you would still find him sitting over in his corner, waiting for someone to listen to him talk and watch him draw his pictures.

His name?

We just call him ‘T.V.’.

30 posted on 06/17/2011 7:18:16 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: Niuhuru

“It’s got a good beat, and you can dance to it. Dick...I give it a 75.”


31 posted on 06/17/2011 7:21:51 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: DoughtyOne; Niuhuru
I wonder if they’ve ever heard of the idiot that decided she wanted to use the name Madonna.

Well, in her defense, it's actually her real name... /g

32 posted on 06/17/2011 7:47:32 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: tarheelswamprat

I hate it when that happens! LOL

Thanks for the correction.


33 posted on 06/17/2011 9:41:31 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Muslim Brotherhood (renames itself) the Liberty and Justice Party. NOT A JOKE.tst)
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To: arasina

Thank you very much. Working with children (and loving it) gives you such insight into learning and gives such understanding of human nature. I refer to it as common sense. I realized a while back (esp. since Blooms book, The Closing of the American Mind) how important underlying philosophy is to all thinking and actions. I also understand how dependent and vulnerable children are to the ideas and experiences in early childhood and how it determines much of their personality and outlook on life.

People usually react to emotions which are elicited by statements or visual stimuli without understanding why they react and think as they do. For some reason, I can look to the source of their thinking....and I have been correct many more times than not. Their concept of God (or no God) does affect all actions and outlooks and I find it the most telling, and those with no belief in God are the most troubled and dysfunctional and live with a great fear of old age and death and live in constant denial. They can not accept reality—in fact, have great underlying anger in life.

I just had a neighbor die. He was the happiest of men....over 90 and ready to meet God. His wife, also in her 90’s, is a beautiful woman who worked as a missionary during part of her life. He worked with lepers after he became a doctor. As a young man, it was what he chose to do for years before he raised a family of his own and became a small town doctor. The ‘Good Life’? He thought that selfless life was absolutely the best life, and would never have changed a minute of his life, even at the age of 90.

People search for meaning and to prove their “worth” through materialism, with never even coming close to filling that void in their soul.....they don’t understand how self worth is achieved. We witness pathetic efforts in political figures who are desperate for this feeling of “self-worth” and think “adulation” from others will fill the abyss, but it never works. It can’t and all they do is continue to listen to Satan’s whispers.


34 posted on 06/17/2011 10:53:47 AM PDT by savagesusie (Virtue is a habit of the mind, consistent with nature and moderation and reason. Cicero)
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To: Niuhuru

Placemark


35 posted on 06/17/2011 8:50:02 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: catfish1957

I would agree that those are areas of moral decline, except for the interracial marriage part.


36 posted on 06/18/2011 7:54:46 AM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby
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