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Newt's one-man RLC show
Politico ^ | 06/16/11 | JONATHAN MARTIN

Posted on 06/16/2011 10:47:12 PM PDT by jageorge72

No longer constrained by campaign advisers who insisted on such conventions as “message discipline,” Gingrich fulminated against President Obama, the news media, activist judges and assorted other liberal bogeymen for 41 minutes here Thursday night.

It was classic Newt – slashing attacks, an array of ideas, and a few plugs for his website. All jumbled together with little cohesion.

The former speaker, it seems, is very much enjoying the post-consultant phase of his candidacy.

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How can you NOT be a Newt Gingrich fanboy (or girl)? ....that's my question. Are you afraid because the media fears Newt? What candidate do you support that can out debate Gingrich? Pick a topic. What candidate can give a speech packed full of substance, history lessons, and bold, innovatve ideas better than Newt? No one. No one.

Why do you let the media dictate who your candidate will be? Deep down, many of you LOVE Newt, but are afraid to support him. Get over it. Grow a set. Quit doing what the media wants you to do. Romney hasn't faced any resisence from the media, yet he is the frontrunner? Now.... why is that? You do the math.

Look at the field..... Romney and Pawlenty.... lame and lamer. Romney is hailed as the economic expert, but Newt's economic plan was just rated an 'A' from Investors Business Daily. And they say he: "put forth one of the most laudable economic plans in memory". Romney is weak on pretty much everything else. ....and Pawlenty is weaker.

Cain.... Right on issues, but clearly lacking depth. His "I'm a real black man" comment will crush him if he actually gets the nomination. Even Republicans will reject that garbage.

Bachmann...... pretty good, but will it last? Can she win independents? Newt will not only win independents, buy also Democrats. It remains to be seen with Bachmann.

Santorum.... fairly solid. But..... his ability to win over moderates and even Democrats is fairly limited. This run is great for his future, and might land him a VP slot, but his chances of winning the nomination are very slim.

Huntsman.... RINO

Ron Paul....... very good on financial stuff, naive on national security. Will never be more than a fringe contender.

Perry..... overrated at this point.

Gary Johnson.... please. Looked totally nervous and awkward in his first and last debate.

Palin..... right on issues, but like Cain..... lacking the depth. If you disagree, picture Newt and Palin on stage discussing a topic..... any topic..... for 2 hours straight. The lack of knowledge, understanding, and experience would be clearly evident. She might even pull out a pad & pencil, and start taking notes.

You are a coward if you are writing off Newt Gingrich this early. Look at what your candidate says, does, etc.... and compare them to what Newt says. They are inferior, and you know it. Go Newt!

1 posted on 06/16/2011 10:47:17 PM PDT by jageorge72
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To: jageorge72
ALL candidates are cowards if they don't proselytize dismanteling:

1) social security
2) medicare
3) medicaide
4) unemployment insurance
5) HUD
6) Welfare (in ANY form)
7) National Labor Relations Board
8) bailout programs (of ANY sort)
9) Farm subsidies (of ANY sort)

that's a good start...

2 posted on 06/16/2011 10:53:48 PM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: jageorge72

You’re nuts.

Gingrich has NO character. None.

He’s totally disgusting.


3 posted on 06/16/2011 10:58:32 PM PDT by Politicalmom ("Obama has put the wrong gas in the tank of our economy."-Herman Cain)
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To: jageorge72
Newtie is a blowhard, unstable, immoral, and is extremely easily cowed by Dems !

The Clintons had him knee before them, strap on kneepads and those pads are still there and worn to shreds, after traveling around this country with Hillary, speaking in favor of her health care plans.

Sitting on that sofa with Nancy Pelosi, spouting utter tripe about "GLOBAL WARMING", makes him a moron!

Long before any of that happened, when many were still enamored of him and he was flying high as the supposed "brilliant" conservative, he pushed the egregiously moronic Alvin Tolffer books; especially "THE THIRD WAVE". Having read all three books in the series long before Newtie ever mentioned them, I was appalled that he was praising them. And yes, I understood them all, so don't even attempt to try to belittle me in any way.

Newt V Palin? Newt wouldn't stop talking and Palin would get her poinst across in a sentence or two, that would make far more sense than anything Newtie would be blathering on about!

4 posted on 06/16/2011 11:00:08 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: raygun

How do you feel about government assistance for severely disabled people - not just vets, but civilians too? Just curious.


5 posted on 06/16/2011 11:00:17 PM PDT by Cherokee Conservative (If a tree falls over in the woods, and then snaps back upright as a joke, do the squirrels laugh?)
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To: raygun

On first glance all of those are “greatest generation” things aren’t they? All passed before the boomers and Reagan stopped the worst of things?


6 posted on 06/16/2011 11:00:49 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: jageorge72
"Just Newt being Newt. Until the money runs out."

Newt has spent the last many years building a grass roots organization. It is rather impressive. It has a branch in my town of 15,000 that has already been successful at the city level.

yitbos

7 posted on 06/16/2011 11:01:10 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: jageorge72

Newt: Dead campaign walking


8 posted on 06/16/2011 11:01:29 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: Politicalmom

Who is your candidate?


9 posted on 06/16/2011 11:03:13 PM PDT by jageorge72
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To: jageorge72

You are overlooking Newt’s weaknesses as a leader. He just can’t stick with a few simple ideas like Reagan did. He would go into the leadership meetins with another bright idea rather than stick with the ones they were working on. Like Obama he is basically just a college professor. He has this huge stock of information and always has to put it on display. Compare him with Ryan who has worked years on this one thing and not only has a good mastery of it but can see the connection between things much better than Newt.


10 posted on 06/16/2011 11:04:10 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: RobbyS

Newt’s not perfect, but he’s pretty damn awesome. RobbyS.... who is your candidate?


11 posted on 06/16/2011 11:05:40 PM PDT by jageorge72
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To: jageorge72

Newtie is “awesome” ONLY to those who are blinded by his copious spewings and completely disregard his true record.


12 posted on 06/16/2011 11:07:31 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: ansel12

Reagan campaigned on not being the “insider”; he was losing BIG time until he campaigned with Bush - quitessential insider - as VP.

Reagans’s principles went into the sewer shortly thereafter.

Whatever any candidate is capable of is evidenced by Reagan; checkout my tagline and you’ll see HOW doomed we are.

ALL of you guys proselytizing various candidates as more comservative than the other are highly amusing and entertaining.


13 posted on 06/16/2011 11:10:12 PM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: jageorge72

Newt has ideas but an undisciplined mind.

He was in sum not very good in Monday’s debate. Palin has loads of successful executive experience, which Newt of course doesn’t have. He really doesn’t do the GOP any favors when he’s out in public talking about anything, let alone running anything.


14 posted on 06/16/2011 11:10:48 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: nopardons

Newt’s record is strongly conservative, and his presidential platform/proposals will have everyone from the Tea Party to blue dog Democrats cheering. If you buy the media spin, yeah.... Newt is a failure. Epic failure.

So nopadons..... who are you supporting?


15 posted on 06/16/2011 11:12:14 PM PDT by jageorge72
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To: raygun

I used to work in a mental hospital, I know about people that are “amused” by reality.


16 posted on 06/16/2011 11:13:53 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: Cherokee Conservative

Does the Constitution say there’s a special class of people worthy of dole?


17 posted on 06/16/2011 11:16:02 PM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: jageorge72
You are a coward if you are writing off Newt Gingrich this early.

Indeed, I fear the carbon racket even more since Newt fell for the biggest corporate scam in human history.

He wrote himself off.

18 posted on 06/16/2011 11:16:02 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: jageorge72

Newt is an old burn out.


19 posted on 06/16/2011 11:18:53 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: jageorge72
I wonder how old you are and how involved with politics 20 odd years ago.

I suggest that you read or reread my first post to you, digest it, and then come back to me to refute, if you can, what I posted.

Newtie was a terrific backbencher bomb thrower. As a "leader"..................he stunk !

Almost nobody is, nor shall they support Newt; especially NOT the Tea Partiers, most of whom know all about Newt, because they were old enough, back then, to remember every cave he made!

Do you even know about how he moaned and groaned and threw a hissy fit, to reporters, when on a trip with Clinton, because he didn't get to sit where he wanted to?

Do you even remember that he toured around with Bill Clinton for a few "talks" and wound up agreeing with everything Slick Willie said; so much so, that someone almost had to wipe the drool from Newtie's chins?

I'm a Palin supporter.

20 posted on 06/16/2011 11:20:01 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: 9YearLurker

This is complete BS. Newt’s answers were excellent. (although.....30 seconds for anyone debating serious topics is flat out ridiculous). No one paying attention to Gingrich can deny.....Newt has been actively involved in solving/addressing many problems since the 2008 election. What has any other candidate done since then? Newt has done more to address & solve the country’s problems than all the other candidates COMBINED. Don’t dismiss Newt because the media thinks you should.

9YearLurker..... who do you support?


21 posted on 06/16/2011 11:20:20 PM PDT by jageorge72
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To: Carry_Okie
AFAIC, Newt and the boys wrote themselves off when the broke eht Contract w/America.

That in no sense of the word was concervativsm, but I thought it woas a good start. The Repubukes will NEVER get a penny from me. And, hell no, the Demlicrates will never recieve a fraction of that.

The only difference betwixt the two parties: Republicrans just wait a little bit longer before selling us out. They proved that with the Chinagate approvals.

They can both go to hell as far as I'm concerned.

22 posted on 06/16/2011 11:21:41 PM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: jageorge72
You are clearly out of your mind!

Go seek help....................ASAP!

23 posted on 06/16/2011 11:22:30 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: raygun
"that's a good start..."

That's really a marginal start- you left out EPA, BATFE, TSA, DOJ, FDA, Fed Reserve, IRS, DOEd, DOEnergy, HHS, FannieMae, Freddie MAC, Dept of Commerce, and AMtrack. Homeland Security, CIA, CDC, SEC, Border Patrol, ICE, need to be reorganized. Now, THAT's a fair start!

24 posted on 06/16/2011 11:23:58 PM PDT by matthew fuller (God Bless Ted Nugent, Johnny Cash, John Wayne, and Marshal Matt Dillon. 06042011AD)
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To: ansel12
Yeah? What the hell is that s'poda mean? If you believe Newt is the epitome of conservatism then perhaps the problem is that you worked at a mental hospital.
25 posted on 06/16/2011 11:26:03 PM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: jageorge72

26 posted on 06/16/2011 11:26:05 PM PDT by mirkwood (Palin 12)
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To: matthew fuller
Don't even get me started.

We are SO doomed we don't even know the meaning of the term 'doom'.

We have a lot of people on this board who can bandyu about epithets on this board though. As if that counts for something...

27 posted on 06/16/2011 11:28:27 PM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: jageorge72

Supporting Scozzafava didn’t fix anything.

Newt just likes to listen to himself talk, he was forced into retirement by Clinton, who Gingrich was no match for.


28 posted on 06/16/2011 11:29:35 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: jageorge72

Go AWAY Newt!


29 posted on 06/16/2011 11:29:35 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: ansel12

....who also thinks man has caused ‘global warming’!! How can anybody be dumb and blind enough to push this immoral little snake of a ‘man’ is beyond me. How many of his top aides quit just a bit ago, all at one time?!!! How many mass deflections all at one time have other candidates had down thru the years? Go back and play with your ‘rat pal pelosi on her couch noooot, your not wanted by conservative voters.


30 posted on 06/16/2011 11:29:50 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: jageorge72
"Newt has been actively involved in solving/addressing many problems since the 2008 election"

It was the loss of the House in 2006 that sent Newt to the grassroots.

Newt may not be the candidate, but his organizations had as much to do with the 2010 election as the Tea Party (with which most of his people gladly associate) and will in 2012.

yitbos

31 posted on 06/16/2011 11:29:54 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: mirkwood

I’ve seen that picture a zillion times, and to me it always looks more like Beau Bridges than William Shatner.


32 posted on 06/16/2011 11:32:32 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: nopardons

As a leader, Newt passed 9 of 10 items in the original Contract with America. He was more conservative than Ronald Regan. Newt si the reason Bill Clinton looked good. In the last decade, he has made a few comments that might raise some eyebrows, and an endorsement (Scozzafava) gone awry, but his presidental platform is everything consevatives crave. He lays it out in a way that people understand and enthusiastically support. He does it all without a teleprompter, and without being coached what to say. Newt is the real deal. I’m guessing you believe everything bad the media says about Gingrich?

I like Palin. She is right on the issues, but has little depth. She also can be slightly irritating. Can you imagine lightweight Katie Couric stumping Newt Gingrich?

All I’m saying is let it play out, and listen to what Newt has to say. Don’t believe a word the media says..... use your own intincts.


33 posted on 06/16/2011 11:33:38 PM PDT by jageorge72
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To: jageorge72
Palin..... right on issues, but like Cain..... lacking the depth. If you disagree, picture Newt and Palin on stage discussing a topic..... any topic..... for 2 hours straight. The lack of knowledge, understanding, and experience would be clearly evident. She might even pull out a pad & pencil, and start taking notes.

I want conservative leadership on all issues.

I don't want someone who can quote a dictionary or encyclopedia, that is worthless for the position of POTUS.

I certainly don't want somebody who believes he has to move to the center to win.

I don't want somebody who dallies with want is perceived to be popular, such as Global Warming.

I don't want someone who supports extreme left-wing candidates like Scozzafazza.

I don't want someone who thinks we can't stay with Reagan Conservatism.

I want true, principled leadership.

I get that with Palin in spades.

I get mush with Newt.
34 posted on 06/16/2011 11:35:11 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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"How can you NOT be a Newt Gingrich fanboy (or girl)? "

Sorry- That dog won't hunt. Newt is as dead in the water as Weiner. He, like Weiner before Thursday, doesn't even know it yet.

35 posted on 06/16/2011 11:36:39 PM PDT by matthew fuller (God Bless Ted Nugent, Johnny Cash, John Wayne, and Marshal Matt Dillon. 06042011AD)
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To: jageorge72

Newt failed as Speaker, why should I think he’d do any better as President? His problems have never been his intellect it’s his character.


36 posted on 06/16/2011 11:36:46 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: fortheDeclaration

....and what Republican do you support? Everyone can cry “Go away Newt”, but is your candidate better than Newt? Bet not. You fear the media..... and are afraid to admit it.


37 posted on 06/16/2011 11:37:34 PM PDT by jageorge72
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To: jageorge72

IBTZ, troll.


38 posted on 06/16/2011 11:41:40 PM PDT by Politicalmom ("Obama has put the wrong gas in the tank of our economy."-Herman Cain)
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To: jageorge72

Newt is a layabout that hasn’t done anything in 17 years, please make him go away.

He is a Republican Bill Clinton, except with less influence, and effectiveness, and evidently with less usable intelligence.


39 posted on 06/16/2011 11:43:15 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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What? "As a leader, Newt passed 9 of the 10 items of the original Contract With America?"

They broke the Contract. You see that punctuation mark the end of that sentance? As a result I will never support republicrats.

40 posted on 06/16/2011 11:43:44 PM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: jageorge72

Palin.


41 posted on 06/16/2011 11:43:53 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: jageorge72
HOW OLD ARE YOU ?

Look, you have ignored just about every single salient point I and others have made about Newtie and come back with mind benumbing lies and erroneous claptrap. If you aren't interested in being informed, then you will just become a laughing stock here.

Newtie "more conservative than Reagan"? IN WHAT UNIVERSE?

Clinton had Newt on his knees and out the damned door, faster than you can say JACK ROBINSON.

Did Newt and the GOP Congress ( that's both houses, for the uninformed )get some things done and halt some others, during the Clinton presidency? Yes, they did, but with a lot of pulling and pushing and prodding by little Dickie Morris, at Slick Willie's ear.

Sarah Palin is far more intelligent and knowledgeable than you claim. OTOH, Newt is far less effective and intelligent than you claim he is.

Not only have I "listened to Newt" and ignored the media for decades, I was once a big fan of his. People were taken in by him, but most of us had our collective eyes opened, BY HIM, BY HIS OWN WORDS AND DEEDS, long ago!

I guess you believe in "man made GLOBAL WARMING", CAP&TRADE, and universal health care, as Newt does..........right?

You wouldn't know what the "real deal" is if it bit you on the arse!

42 posted on 06/16/2011 11:43:53 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: matthew fuller

Okay Matthew.... who are you supporting? Can you explain the disproportionate attacks on Newt by the media, compared to the other candidates? The same media that was promoting Mitch (lets call a truce on social issues) Daniels? The same media that hails Mitt (romneycare, previously strongly pro-abortion, 2008 loser) Romney as the unbeatable frontrunner? This is from a media in which 9 of 10 donate to DEMOCRATS. FR needs to wake up. Newt Gingrich is not perfect, but there is a reason he is the media’s #1 target.


43 posted on 06/16/2011 11:46:57 PM PDT by jageorge72
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To: jageorge72
Okay Matthew.... who are you supporting? Can you explain the disproportionate attacks on Newt by the media, compared to the other candidates? The same media that was promoting Mitch (lets call a truce on social issues) Daniels? The same media that hails Mitt (romneycare, previously strongly pro-abortion, 2008 loser) Romney as the unbeatable frontrunner? This is from a media in which 9 of 10 donate to DEMOCRATS. FR needs to wake up. Newt Gingrich is not perfect, but there is a reason he is the media’s #1 target.

What kind of dope you smokin' boy?

The amount of press attacks on Newt in comparison to what Sarah Palin has gone through can quite easily be measured in a Thimble!
44 posted on 06/16/2011 11:49:24 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: jageorge72

What you don’t realize about Newt, is that he no longer has any influence, anywhere.

Nobody cares about him, he has no base, no audience, no constituency.

Not here at FR, not in moderate land, no where, nobody cares about him, he is irrelevant, nobody even knows what his politics are anymore, he is an empty suit looking for a seminar to sell Newtisms at.


45 posted on 06/16/2011 11:51:56 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: jageorge72
"many of you LOVE Newt, but are afraid to support him"

This is the Free Republic web site. You think posters here are fearful? Afraid to speak our minds? Think again, chief.


46 posted on 06/16/2011 11:58:09 PM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
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To: nopardons

“HOW OLD ARE YOU”? I think you just nailed it ‘pard. Only some snot nosed young’n who was not of age for most of nootie’s past failures and sell outs to ‘RATS like pelosi would be dumb enough to try to push this little immoral snake of a ‘man’ on FReepers..


47 posted on 06/17/2011 12:02:16 AM PDT by bobby.223
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To: jageorge72
"Okay Matthew.... who are you supporting?"

I don't keep that secret, it's on my homepage, reprinted here for your convience:

My realistic, updated (06/05/11) dream picks, in order of preference: 1.DeMint 2.Palin 3.Bachmann 4.Bolton 5.Cain

But that's not what's under discussion here. You are pushing Newt, and not very successfully. I have been in Newt's camp before, but I have seen the light. He's not right for America now, and he has zilch, zippo, nada chance of winning the primary.

"Can you explain the disproportionate attacks on Newt by the media, compared to the other candidates?"

You mean like Sarah Palin? But anyway, I pay little heed to the MSM.

48 posted on 06/17/2011 12:02:27 AM PDT by matthew fuller (God Bless Ted Nugent, Johnny Cash, John Wayne, and Marshal Matt Dillon. 06042011AD)
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To: jageorge72
Newt is a Progressive, untrustworthy loser.

Tell me how supporting Global Warming, the biggest fraud, with Nancy Pelosi Conservative?

Tell me how after announcing your run for President, going on a Luxury Vacation in this economy Conservative?

Tell me how routinely saying leftist leaning stupid stuff on the weekend news shows and then having to hit Hannity on Monday for a Mea Culpa Conservative?

Tell me how having to re announce your POTUS run in LA after your campaign staff abandons you for being a cuckold Conservative?

Tell me how having a harem of ex-wives is Conservative?

For every 10 ideas this guy has, 8 are total garbage. Newty goes which ever way the wind blows. How can anyone depend on him sticking to any principles? His candidacy is a total farce.

Newt Gingrich praises Barack Obama

49 posted on 06/17/2011 12:04:44 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: jageorge72
Deep down, many of you LOVE Newt, but are afraid to support him.

ROFL

50 posted on 06/17/2011 12:06:56 AM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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