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AARP Pivots on Social Security Benefit Cuts (President Bush was right)
Fox News ^ | 6/17/2011 | fox news

Posted on 06/17/2011 3:55:06 AM PDT by tobyhill

AARP, the powerful lobbying group for older Americans, was dropping its long-standing opposition to cutting Social Security benefits, a move that could rock Washington's debate over how to revamp the nation's entitlement programs, The Wall Street Journal reported Friday.

The decision, which AARP has not discussed publicly, came after a wrenching debate inside the organization. In 2005, the last time Social Security was debated, AARP led the effort to kill President George W. Bush's plan for partial privatization. AARP now concludes that change is inevitable, and it wants to be at the table to try to minimize the pain.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aarp; entitlements; seniors; socialsecurity

1 posted on 06/17/2011 3:55:09 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

AARP is a classis case of old folks ACORN.

...and speaking of NUTS...

Anyone of any age associating themselves with said organization, needs to have a lobotomy before being locked up for mental instability.

Oh I remember now, we don’t do that anymore, they are free to roam the earth and wreak their havoc on mankind.


2 posted on 06/17/2011 4:03:44 AM PDT by wita
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To: wita

AARP’s tax free status needs to be examined closely.


3 posted on 06/17/2011 4:04:52 AM PDT by xtinct (The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you..Be Strong Patriots!)
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To: tobyhill
We've been telling these a********* for years that we know we're all getting scr**** by SS.

NO ONE was supposed to collect. It was just a kitty to rape.

No COLA for Seniors for the last 2 years is devastating.

4 posted on 06/17/2011 4:06:24 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: tobyhill
So the AARP, a group dedicated to lobbying for more money, benefits, and legislation for seniors, now is no longer supporting legislation that gives benefits and money to seniors.

However, they DID lobby for medical care that will make it easier to KILL seniors.

Wow, sign me up to THAT organization.

5 posted on 06/17/2011 4:06:37 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them. -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: tobyhill

I get crap from AARP in the mail all the time. Right in the circular file it goes.


6 posted on 06/17/2011 4:09:13 AM PDT by 4yearlurker
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To: Lazamataz

Note to AARP = Bite me.


7 posted on 06/17/2011 4:09:35 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: tobyhill

The AARP makes me feel justified in parking in spots reserved for old people.


8 posted on 06/17/2011 4:10:58 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Lazamataz
The GOP is actually playing the debt ceiling increase pretty smart. The word I'm getting is that the GOP negotiators are making Medicare cuts mandatory with Democrat's names on it so they can no longer use it as a wedge issue.
9 posted on 06/17/2011 4:13:02 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
AARP, along with many other "helping" organizations are part of a column from the cake called enslave America. The media and our universities are the others.

I hope you all love being told what to do from birth to death...it's here.

AARP pushed for government bureaucrats and crooked politicians to make your health decisions for you...tells you all you need to know

10 posted on 06/17/2011 4:19:48 AM PDT by Earthdweller (CorHarvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: tobyhill

AARP - Accumulating Assets from Retired People


11 posted on 06/17/2011 4:22:33 AM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: tobyhill

“AARP now concludes that change is inevitable”

So why doesn’t Paul Ryan believe changes to SS are inevitable? What kind of times do we live in when AARP is more conservative on SS than the Republican leadership?


12 posted on 06/17/2011 4:41:22 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: Rocky
You nailed it.
Have you ever seen the million dollar marble palace they built in DC !

Disgrace.

Why no conservative group hasn’t done a hit piece on that disgrace Palace is surprising .

13 posted on 06/17/2011 4:43:35 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: tobyhill

I might be tempted to join.


14 posted on 06/17/2011 4:44:07 AM PDT by jimfree (In 2012 Sarah Palin will have more quality executive experience than Barack Obama.)
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To: wita

Old folks think it’s “free” and anything not nailed down belongs to them (they hide sugar packets in our local restaurants around Sun City Hilton Head). So look at all the “free things” you get from ARRP ... that’s the attraction. They’ve marketed it as an entitlement of the elderly and the elderly “expect” it. I dumped them years ago ... along with anything else with solid lib ties. “Hurry and sign up for ARRP and you get all the discounts at the motels”. Some of my neighbors absolutely disgust me with their stupidity ... and they are old enough to know better!


15 posted on 06/17/2011 5:19:11 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag
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To: All
Yes, change is inevitable and it needs to happen NOW. I find it absolutely sickening that some Americans think their SS should be protected at the expense of this country as a whole. We were all promised something and it will take all of us sacrificing to turn things around. The money is not there. That being said, it will be interesting to see if AARP walks the talk.
16 posted on 06/17/2011 5:40:44 AM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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To: Sacajaweau

No COLA for Seniors for the last 2 years is devastating.

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So what? Inflation has been non existent for the past 2 years. I know this to be true because the government people told me so.


17 posted on 06/17/2011 5:56:09 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: tobyhill

When GWB had the stones to change SS AARP (and the rest of the liberals) screamed like banshees. The reason was they could not allow the fix of this program, created by the Democrats and their personal claim to eternal fame, to be accomplished by anyone but themselves. Now that OSTUPID is in the WH they are suddenly all for change and in fact want to even take credit for the fix themselves, at least in part.


18 posted on 06/17/2011 6:00:33 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: tobyhill

When GWB had the stones to change SS AARP (and the rest of the liberals) screamed like banshees. The reason was they could not allow the fix of this program, created by the Democrats and their personal claim to eternal fame, to be accomplished by anyone but themselves. Now that OSTUPID is in the WH they are suddenly all for change and in fact want to even take credit for the fix themselves, at least in part.


19 posted on 06/17/2011 6:00:45 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

and they are old enough to know better!

That is the part that gets to me. How
old people grew up during the depression,
WW1 and WW2. and now think the way they
do. I hear the word ‘Free’ used so freely
to distort, disguise, and deceive as to the
real meaning of FREE. If it is free, someone
somewhere, is paying.

Free IMHO should be used to describe our status
under the Constitution, in this great land. Anything
else is distortion of the concept.


20 posted on 06/17/2011 6:31:44 AM PDT by wita
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To: 4yearlurker

I enjoy placing a brick into a large brown envelope, taping the AARP first class return envelope on it, wrapping it securely with clear packaging tape, and dropping in a mailbox.


21 posted on 06/17/2011 6:33:05 AM PDT by damper99
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To: 4yearlurker
I get crap from AARP in the mail all the time. Right in the circular file it goes.

Hey, why not load up the return postage free envelope with all your extra unwanted junk mail and send it back? They have to pay the postage. 2 birds one stone.

22 posted on 06/17/2011 6:55:53 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: tobyhill

AARP - always take the credit but never take the blame. Where have I seen that before? Oh, yeah, everywhere.


23 posted on 06/17/2011 6:56:00 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
What kind of times do we live in when AARP is more conservative on SS than the Republican leadership?

Depends on what they mean by "change". Obama ran on a platform of change, and you can see where that's gotten us so far.

24 posted on 06/17/2011 7:01:16 AM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: tobyhill
The decision, which AARP has not discussed publicly, came after a wrenching debate inside the organization.
Yeah and that 'debate' was prolly about the Millions of AARP members who've canceled their membership since AARP became a spokesmen for the DNC. And all that MONEY they've lost because of it.

I dropped my membership, or actually I failed to renew around 2002(1)(2). Yet they STILL keep sending me Renewal Letters & Cards - 'Renew now and save $xx.xx'. It goes right in the trash and the 'New Card(s)' into the shredder. One would think that after Nine Years they'd get the message.

(1) I had a Three Year membership.
(2) I only joined when I hit 50 for the 10% Hotel-Motel Discount. But also I had a AAA Card then and they have a similar discount. So screw AARP.

25 posted on 06/17/2011 7:04:28 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A.Einstein])
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To: wita
How old people grew up during the depression, WW1 and WW2. and now think the way they do.

I'll tell you how - they've had the government STEAL a portion of their paycheck every week for the past 40+ years with the promise that they'd get it back. Now, they want it back because the government owes them. Above all the welfare queens, food-stamp drones, "earned income credit" bums, psuedo-disabled scammers, and the rest of the liberal freeloaders that never paid a penny into the system, they should get first dibs. When the government cuts off the welfare gravy train, then they can start talking about how to deal with SS.

26 posted on 06/17/2011 7:06:19 AM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: meyer

the welfare gravy train is schedule for a major derailment.

The only question is when. The sooner the better.

...and speaking of stealing, it isn’t just SS, we are being fleeced faster than we can keep track of the fleecing. We certainly don’t have any control over it, which speaks volumes about government “of the people”.


27 posted on 06/17/2011 8:30:19 AM PDT by wita
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To: tobyhill
One month ago the headline was:

AARP receives waiver from ObamaCare

I tell you what, the AARP is becoming one of the most sleaziest organizations in the US today. AARP, go to Hell!

28 posted on 06/17/2011 8:47:06 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: tobyhill; Lazamataz
The GOP is actually playing the debt ceiling increase pretty smart. The word I'm getting is that the GOP negotiators are making Medicare cuts mandatory with Democrat's names on it so they can no longer use it as a wedge issue.

What is the GOP doing about the plunder of social security and medicare by anchor babies, illegal aliens, and brand new immigrants and all their relatives, none of whom were forced to contribute? we're talking hundreds of billions of dollars over the past years.
29 posted on 06/17/2011 9:41:33 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: wita
to actually participate in a war is different than being a kid or a teenager or a nonparticipent in the effort....

my husbands' family to be specific....his father, the oldest, basically was in the army just as WW2 ended....his younger brothers were never in, never in viet nam.....

you have a whole lot of older people on benefits now who never served in the military let alone a war....

30 posted on 06/17/2011 9:41:45 AM PDT by cherry
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To: meyer

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2735971/posts?page=29#29


31 posted on 06/17/2011 9:44:46 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: cherry

you have a whole lot of older people on benefits now who never served in the military let alone a war....

One has to be deaf, dumb, blind, ignorant, stupid, arrogant, and just plain divorced from reality, to ignore the lessons of time, regardless of whether they had direct, or indirect influence in ones life.

As the saying goes, ignore history at your peril.

What does an easy existence and benefits have to do with recognition of reality. The country is broke and going broker at the speed of light. We either seek, suggest, produce, and/or demand the hard solutions, or go down with the ship.


32 posted on 06/17/2011 11:17:27 AM PDT by wita
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To: meyer
I have contributed $126,743 to SS over the years, according to SS annual report to participants. My employer, "contributed" an equivalent amount, so total $253,486. I just recently retired, and have been "awarded" $1947.90 monthly benefit ($23,375 per year). If my calculations are correct, at a 5% annual return, my & employers' contributions could have resulted in a nest egg of $551,889 thru 5/31/2011, that would perpetually fund the benefit + $3635 (such residual increasing ~$200 per year with compounding), using a modest 5% return.

As an investment it is a total rip-off for the individual participant. Should I die in 2032 at 84, the fund in the "lock box" would grow to $681,739, even after all the "benefit" payouts, a fund the government gets to keep. No sane person would voluntarily participate in such a scheme.

33 posted on 06/18/2011 2:37:34 PM PDT by GregoryFul (Obama - Jim Jones redux)
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