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“Why Aren’t You Speaking English?” A Texas Senator is receiving praise and criticism.
KTRH 740 ^ | Friday, June 17, 2011 | By KTRH STAFF

Posted on 06/17/2011 5:15:27 AM PDT by tje

During committee testimony this week in Austin, a Texas senator interrupted a Spanish speaker and telling him he should "be speaking in English" during a committee hearing.

Antolin Aguirre of the Austin Immigrant Rights Coalition was testifying against Senate Bill 9 that would help crack down on illegal immigrants in Texas. Aguirre spoke through an interpreter even though he had been in the U.S. since 1988.

Two minutes into Antolin Aguirre’s testimony, Sen. Chris Harris, a Republican from Arlington, interrupted asking Aguirre’s interrupter, "Did I understand him correctly that he has been here since 1988?" Harris asked. "Why aren’t you speaking in English then?"

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; antolinaguirre; chrisharris; english
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God Bless Texas
1 posted on 06/17/2011 5:15:30 AM PDT by tje
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To: tje

Your statement should be like this: ‘GOD BLESS TEXAS!!!!”


2 posted on 06/17/2011 5:17:26 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Educate men without religion and you make of them but clever devils. " Arthur Wellesley)
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To: tje

If you go here (http://www.ktrh.com/main.html) you can vote on whether you approve of this Texan Senator’s comments or not. Left side about half way down.


3 posted on 06/17/2011 5:18:00 AM PDT by tje
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To: SMARTY

I stand corrected...


4 posted on 06/17/2011 5:18:36 AM PDT by tje
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To: tje

This is a man worth supporting!


5 posted on 06/17/2011 5:19:12 AM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: tje
Sen. Chris Harris, for Governor!
6 posted on 06/17/2011 5:22:42 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: tje

I’m guessing that Aguirre speaks english just fine but spoke spanish for show.


7 posted on 06/17/2011 5:23:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: tje

Learn english and speak it or leave.


8 posted on 06/17/2011 5:24:29 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: 2001convSVT
95.83% YES

4.17% NO

9 posted on 06/17/2011 5:25:13 AM PDT by sniper63 (Ever wonder why they call themselves Hamas, but don't eat pork?)
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To: tje

This guy has been here since 1988 and he’s speaking for an immigrant rights group. First, if he doesn’t speak English, what exactly makes him an immigrant, rather than a guy, who’s just moving the border north? Second, was he a legal immigrant, who applied with all the paperwork or did he arrive illegally. Third, is he an American citizen? Has he shown any intention to become part of American society or does he want to change our country into his country?


10 posted on 06/17/2011 5:25:32 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: tje

According to the article, the man had been living in America for 23 years but felt more comfortable speaking in front of the assembly in Spainish. I’m sorry, but that’s a load of crap!! Most people in this country will go to great lengths to try to understand someone who speaks English as a second language. No one in that hearing would make fun of him or anything like that. He would have garnered more sympathy for his position if he came before the committee trying to act like he’s assimilating to America. Coming there speaking Spainish, it sounds like he and his cause want to take over America, not assimilate.


11 posted on 06/17/2011 5:25:41 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: cripplecreek

95 % Yes.


12 posted on 06/17/2011 5:26:53 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: sniper63

That poll needs FReeped. The yes side is dropping.


13 posted on 06/17/2011 5:29:21 AM PDT by houeto (Palin/DeMint - 2012!)
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To: tje
I voted: So far, results are:

Yes 92.31 %

No 7.69 %

14 posted on 06/17/2011 5:32:09 AM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: tet68

I learned the no speak english trick years ago when my shop hired some illegals.

I asked one of our American hispanics to help me out because he spoke a little spanish. He told me that “they speak english just fine, they just don’t speak it to you.”


15 posted on 06/17/2011 5:33:50 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

The idiot should have spoken in uncomfortable english since he is in AMERICA. The Senator was absolutely right in calling the clown out.


16 posted on 06/17/2011 5:33:50 AM PDT by biggredd1
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Hyphenate musta got his orders from Mexico, Central or South America. Was that his real identity? Illegals' use multiple identities.

Illegal Manuel Mejia Ordonez ordered to repay $3M in Calif employment fraud
San Francisco Chronicle | June 26, 2010
FR Posted June 26, 2010 by artichokegrower

A former Marysville resident has been sentenced to prison and ordered to pay back $3 million in fraudulently obtained unemployment compensation. US Attorney Benjamin B. Wagner said 31-year-old Manuel Mejia Ordonez was sentenced to eight years and one month in prison for conspiracy to commit mail fraud and identity theft. (Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...

QUESTION How does a citizen of Mexico make $3 million in unemployment claims? A. By establishing multiple identities. The fraudster, Manuel Mejia Ordonez, got eight years for conspiracy to commit mail fraud........and identity theft.

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Illegal Jose Madrigal, the Washington state rapist, had some 30 identities.

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REFERENCE Hayward, California woman charged in mass thefts of IDs
Henry K. Lee / Copyright San Francisco Chronicle. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.


Oakland Police Dept Mug Shot: Mishel Caviness, Hayward, accused of
running a large-scale operation devoted to stealing people's identities.

HAYWARD, CALIFORNIA -- A Hayward woman has been charged with numerous felony counts for allegedly running an identity-theft operation that created fake Social Security and California identification cards, checks and credit cards. Mishel Caviness, 40, was arrested after an investigation by Oakland police and the U.S. Secret Service.

The probe began when an Oakland city employee reported in January that someone was fraudulently cashing her checks, according to police Officer Ryan Goodfellow and court records. Caviness was identified with the help of surveillance-camera footage from Bay Area stores, police said.

A search of her apartment on the 21000 block of Foothill Boulevard in Hayward last week uncovered a printing operation capable of making fake checks and credit cards, police said. Also found were 900 blank credit cards, personal information belonging to as many as 1,000 people, blank checks and computers, police said.

Alameda County prosecutors charged Caviness with forgery, identity theft, forgery of a driver's license and grand theft. She has a previous conviction for welfare fraud and told police that she is disabled and unemployed. She is being held at Santa Rita Jail in Dublin in lieu of $325,000 bail.

SOURCE http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/05/16/BAPP1JGPTT.DTL#ixzz1MotxGM5R Page C - 3 of the San Francisco Chronicle

17 posted on 06/17/2011 5:38:24 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: tje

I did and I do. Annoys the heck out of me when someone is speaking another language when you KNOW they know English.


18 posted on 06/17/2011 5:40:09 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: All
Illegals establish several identities with phony SS nos and fake documents these "impoverished immigrants" buy from itinerant document brokers for several thousand dollars.

Illegals know their strength is is forming voting blocs to put pressure on lawmakers.They establish multiple identities.......AND ALL OF THEM VOTE.

Illegals are well-briefed on US law WRT getting on the gravy train----most of the US tax dollars they score are sent back home to Third World hellholes where they intend to retire.......as the US govt checks keep rolling in.

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RIDING THE US GRAVY TRAIN An illegal alien w/ wife and five children violates our borders. He gets a job mowing lawns for $5.00 or 6.00/hour. At that low wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, so each year, he files an Income Tax Return to get "EITC---earned income credit" of up to $3,200 scot-free. He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent. He qualifies for food stamps and no deductible, no co-pay free health care. His children get free school breakfasts and lunches. The kids qualify for monthly SSI checks, faking ADD; the illegal and his wife get SSI if they fake being aged, blind or disabled; SSI qualifies them for Medicare. Plus illegals don't worry about pricey car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance, and qualify for relief from high energy bills. All that is collected with one identity.

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REFERENCE NOTE Earned Income Tax Credit is available only to immigrant workers who obtain legal work status. But the law allows immigrants to claim EITC for up to three years prior to obtaining that status. Workers simply file a tax return for the years in which they were not legally eligible to work in the US. The most widespread abuse stems from the requirement that children live with the worker for more than six months of the year. IRS does little to verify the claim. Many immigrants claim non-existent children, or claim children who they’ve left behind with relatives. Those with two or more children and income below $32,121 could get as much as $4,008. It is estimated that illegals received $22 billion EITC.

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THE LUCRATIVE PHONY ID BUSINESS----NORTH BERGEN, NJ -- July 21, 2006 -- Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, L/E said. The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker.

The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses for any state in the US, passports and resident alien cards, said state police. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot. Authorities wouldn't identify the NJ hotel by name for fear it would spark retribution from savage drug cartels operating in the US.

The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout. L/E approached the Texas brothers when they returned to the NJ hotel and questioned them separately. The Texas brothers consented to a search.

Police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.

All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street. Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 fake Social Security cards. ####

19 posted on 06/17/2011 5:41:14 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: biggredd1

I agree with the Senator, this guy is going to lecture Texans in Spanish about immigrant rights. That’s balls


20 posted on 06/17/2011 5:43:14 AM PDT by NYCop (In Memory of Maj Francis E Visconti USMC, MIA since 22 NOV 65, but not forgotten)
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To: tje
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21 posted on 06/17/2011 5:44:30 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: biggredd1

Funny story. Many years ago, I was on the U.S.S. Tripoli. Aboard ship as you can imagine there are many different groups of people. Fillipinos speaking Tagalog, Dominicans/Puerto Ricans/others speaking Spainish. One day the captain gets on speaker and is passing information. This is a fairly common occurrence to hear the captain speak from time to time. This is one time that I will never forget. At the end of the word he was passing, he announces words to the effect that this is a United States Naval ship and the official language on here is English. No other languages are to be spoken.

I never had a problem with others speaking their native tongue to fellow natives. After all, they can probably best communicate their thoughts and ideas in their native tongue. However, in a public forum such as the Senate hearing or when speaking to someone to talk about others while right in front of them is highly insulting. And the government should provide all of their documentation/etc in English only.


22 posted on 06/17/2011 5:45:47 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: cripplecreek

A lot of them speak much better English than they let on. I used to get sucked into that No speekee stuff and there I would be struggling to speak Spanish.


23 posted on 06/17/2011 5:48:19 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: tje

Don’t you just love how they pose the poll...”Texas Senator in trouble for...” He’s not in trouble, he’s being applauded.


24 posted on 06/17/2011 5:48:38 AM PDT by RowdyFFC
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Nothing good has come from this plague of lawbreakers violating our borders. Karl Rove was WRONG----they came from hellholes whining about a "better life".....but that was a ruse. They DID NOT embrace democracy once they had a taste of it as Rove famously said. On the contrary, they are a national security threat-----and are conspiring to tear down democracy---and their home countries are helping them. Read on:

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News reports say Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua and Peru and are conspiring to collude with The Anti-Defamation League, The American Civil Liberties Union, the Southern Poverty Law Center and several other civil and immigrant rights groups to infringe on US sovereignty to make laws as we see fit. The co-conspirators filed a federal class-action lawsuit against Georgia's law and are now asking a judge to halt the measure pending the outcome of their case.

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They only look like they're mowing our loans and flipping burgers in fast food joints. The main occupation of these hyphenated-separatists is creating chaos to divert attention from the Marxist Third World they are building on US soil.

These anti-American criminals consider the United States an invader state---a foreign power imposed on Third World hellholes. They arrogantly refuse to refer to the US by its legal name. The US is known by Mexicans as el Norte, (“the North”), el Otro Lado (“the Other Side”), or Gringolandia (the “Anglo Entity”).

Freud would have a field day with these people----that "warrior" mentality evidences a distinct lack of self esteem. They actually think we are "frail white people." That's what the Japanese thought. The same mistake Mexicans made with Texans. The disturbed left’s identity politics with its propensity to separate and balkanize America moves ahead apace with the era of Obama. You remember Obama? The post-racial president that was supposed to “heal” America? Yeah, that one.

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Phoenix Latinos will protest in Atlanta
"We are taking over this land and anybody who doesn’t like it should go back to Europe"

The Examiner | May 20th, 2011 | Miguel Perez
FR Posted Sat, May 21, 2011 by moonshinner_09

Georgia won’t be part of the proposed Latino homeland of Aztlán, but Latino civil rights leaders from Phoenix will march and protest in different parts of Atlanta next week for immigration laws they view as unjust. “Latinos won’t stay at the back of the bus anymore. We are taking over this land and anybody who doesn’t like it should go back to Europe,” says Jorge Serrano of Take Back Aztlán. “Racism should not be tolerated anymore in this country. Trying to get rid of Latinos is nothing but racist,” says Cecilia Maldonado of Chicanos Unidos Arizona, who will be meeting with Latino civil rights leaders in Atlanta to propose national boycotts. (Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...

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Translated from the Espanol------Third World federales are salivating over looting the US treasury. Can't wait to get their hands on the loot.

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Just here for a better life (sob).

WAITING TO GET THEIR ORDERS FROM MEXICO
Reconquista shock troops at Phoenix Capital protest, May 29, 2010.

2009---TEXAS DREAM ACT DEMONSTRATION
In secret enclaves, they conspire to destroy the USA from within.

25 posted on 06/17/2011 5:48:38 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: tje

“Sen. Chris Harris, a Republican from Arlington, interrupted asking Aguirre’s interrupter, “Did I understand him correctly that he has been here since 1988?” Harris asked. “Why aren’t you speaking in English then?”

Bravo! A Joe Wilson “You lie!” moment that is bound to make some leftist heads explode.

Speaking the truth in our current PC environment is an extraordinary thing because the PC police will try to ruin you.

But though he may have shocked the elitists, I bet Sen. Harris will gain popularity in his district.


26 posted on 06/17/2011 5:55:01 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: knittnmom

It was down to about 90/10 when I voted.

I’m surprised they didn’t give the options as “Si” and “No.”


27 posted on 06/17/2011 5:58:45 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: AuntB; Tennessee Nana; Clintonfatigued; La Lydia; TADSLOS; raybbr; rabscuttle385; ...

Sen Chris Harris’ email page-—contact him w/ your laudatory message right now.

http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/senate/members/dist9/dist9.htm#email


28 posted on 06/17/2011 6:00:44 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: MARKUSPRIME

I’d go further and say

Assimilate or leave.
Plan to assimilate, or don’t come.


29 posted on 06/17/2011 6:02:50 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: tje
The colonists find it demeaning to speak the language of their lessors. Did the Romans speak Greek? Did the Pilgrims speak Iroquois? Did the German speak French?
30 posted on 06/17/2011 6:03:47 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Howie66

I was at that hearing. Two rooms filled with enablers,translators, crying victims...I would not wish this treatment of listening without losing it upon my worst enemy.The highpoint of course was Sen. Harris but not long after a puffed up machisimo illegal insinuated that should this enforcement bill pass that the “immigrants” might be driven into collusion with the terrorists...nice huh?
I got quoted in the Star-Telegram.There were about 8 patriots vs. 100 or on the other side.


31 posted on 06/17/2011 6:06:57 AM PDT by magna carta
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To: tje

86% says yes he should be speaking English! :)


32 posted on 06/17/2011 6:07:52 AM PDT by EmilyGeiger
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To: Liz

You ruined our cannibalism.


33 posted on 06/17/2011 6:12:58 AM PDT by onedoug (If)
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To: Liz; AuntB; B4Ranch; All

” Sen. Chris Harris, a Republican from Arlington, interrupted asking Aguirre’s interrupter, “Did I understand him correctly that he has been here since 1988?” Harris asked. “Why aren’t you speaking in English then?”

LOL! A man with guts and integrity. I would have done the same. A free brewski for this guy!


34 posted on 06/17/2011 6:20:34 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: magna carta

Seems to me that these turds are already aligning themselves with terrorists.

That said, I have had it up to here with these scumbags.


35 posted on 06/17/2011 6:25:42 AM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: MrB

Agree


36 posted on 06/17/2011 6:30:53 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: MARKUSPRIME

Not only “speak English”, but if he has lived in Texas for 23 years, speak Texan!!!


37 posted on 06/17/2011 6:31:47 AM PDT by native texan (Real Texans don't need the Federal Govt.)
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To: magna carta
Glad you were there...

...what's the buzz around there for Senator Harris....lots of support?

38 posted on 06/17/2011 6:34:36 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: tje

I wish you weeeeked Freeeepers would lay off our Undocumented Democrats

39 posted on 06/17/2011 6:37:20 AM PDT by Zakeet (The difference between the Wee Wee and a battery ... the battery has a positive side)
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To: magna carta

The article doesn’t say. Did this guy finish his testimony in English as the senator asked?


40 posted on 06/17/2011 6:37:54 AM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: cripplecreek
I’m guessing that Aguirre speaks english just fine but spoke spanish for show.

Yes, he was. Everyone was supposed to listen to the humble voice of the immigrant, struggling to be understood, working with a translator before 'the man'. I congratulate this Texas Senator. Learn the language.
41 posted on 06/17/2011 6:39:56 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: tje

Even the UN specifies two “working languages.” English and French.


42 posted on 06/17/2011 6:40:17 AM PDT by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: tje

A Texas senator is in hot water for interrupting a Spanish speaker and telling him he should ‘be speaking in English’ during a committee hearing. Was the senator right when he asked his guest to speak English?
Yes

84.44 %

No

15.56 %

Read more: http://www.ktrh.com/main.html#ixzz1PXVzCc2F


43 posted on 06/17/2011 6:40:22 AM PDT by ol' hoghead (He is not here; for he is risen.)
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To: tje

not only speak English, pay taxes, denounce laraza

friggin mess is going to ruin us all

we need a few thousand more like Harris


44 posted on 06/17/2011 6:43:26 AM PDT by jbp1 (be nice now)
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To: tje
Seem to remember way back when you were required to read, write and speak English to become a citizen.

Those were the good old days when you didn't have to constantly see signs written in English and Spanish in every damn store!

45 posted on 06/17/2011 6:48:41 AM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: Liz

Then why are you speaking a European language like SPANISH instead of Incan or Mayan?

46 posted on 06/17/2011 6:56:31 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
According to the article, the man had been living in America for 23 years but felt more comfortable speaking in front of the assembly in Spainish. I

I have seen this in international relations. Helmut Kohl, Germany's former chancellor, spoke excellent English. However, when speaking off script in English in a formal diplomatic setting he preferred to use German so that there could be no question of his meaning. He couldn't accidentally get some slight nuance or local meaning of English wrong and create an international incident.

However, this isn't such a case, there's no danger of an international incident due to a misunderstanding.

47 posted on 06/17/2011 6:58:29 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: tje

Down to 82%. Vote often!


48 posted on 06/17/2011 7:06:24 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: tje

The people in my background that came here from non-English speaking countries learned it real quick after they came here.

They all came here legally. The didn’t protest and try to get Americans to cater to them by having pamphlet, driver’s tests, “Press 19 for language ‘B’”


49 posted on 06/17/2011 7:12:42 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: native texan
Not only “speak English”, but if he has lived in Texas for 23 years, speak Texan!

Funny! My stepson came to America from Russia when he was 16 with no foreign language skills. In less than a year he was speaking perfectly good Texan (with no foreign accent)! His older brother had been taught the Queen's English in college and spoke that English when they arrived together. Today, they are humorous to listen to when they talk to each other. Neither like to speak Russian. In fact both are now serving in the U.S. Army have have asked their Russian born mother to neither talk nor write to them in Russian.

50 posted on 06/17/2011 7:28:11 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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