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Feds find BrightSource solar project will not jeopardize desert tortoise
Forbes ^ | June 14, 2011 | Todd Woody

Posted on 06/17/2011 5:21:19 AM PDT by bert

In the current issue of Forbes, I write about how the iconic and imperiled desert tortoise could prove problematic for some of the dozen big solar power plants approved for construction in the Mojave Desert in California and Nevada.

In April, federal officials, for instance, ordered BrightSource Energy to halt work on part of its 370-megawatt Ivanpah Solar Electric Generating System after biologists found more desert tortoises at the project than the 32 predicted. Revised projections had estimated there could be as many as 162 adult tortoises and 608 juvenile tortoises on the 5.6-square-mile construction site in the Mojave Desert about 40 miles south of Las Vegas.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News
KEYWORDS: deserttortoise; energy; solar; solarpower
another snip

But a close read of the 108-page document shows that BrightSource, an Oakland, Calif.-based startup, is going to be in the desert tortoise business for at least the next decade. And it provides plenty of fodder for environmentalists concerned about the consequences of other huge solar power plants planned for the Ivanpah Valley and elsewhere.

1 posted on 06/17/2011 5:21:23 AM PDT by bert
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To: bert

Although there are only a few hundred adults, there are thousands of juveniles to be reckoned with.

2 posted on 06/17/2011 5:23:38 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: bert
How convenient... A species of turtle will not be endangered by a solar power plant,but if it were oil drilling,you better believe the EPA would be howling like harp seals over the possible eradication of the blue-bellied turd worm.
Wind farms shouldn't expect any resistance either,regardless of the fact that birds fly into the turbine blades and are killed on a regular basis.
3 posted on 06/17/2011 5:32:10 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee ("Criticism......brings attention to an unhealthy state of things"-Winston Churchill)
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“And sure enough, late Friday the United States Fish and Wildlife Service allowed construction to proceed, finding in a revised biological opinion that Ivanpah would not jeopardize the continued existence of the tortoise, which is listed as a threatened species under the U.S. and California endangered species acts”

Well, of course the government isn't going to shut down a solar project. And, of course, the tortoise has been reevaluated as not an endangered species. However, the EPA via the Permian Basin Sand Lizard is about to shut down exploration and drilling in a large part of west Texas and eastern New Mexico (an area approx the size of Minnesota). And, the EPA is about to do the same thing in the Texas Trans Pecos area by declaring the Pecos River snail endangered. Oh, almost forgot, the EPA is attempting to shut down much of the Gulf of Mexico from exploration and drilling by declaring a small sea horse as endangered. And, of course, the EPA is after coal produced energy hard and fast too. So, anything hydrocarbon is the mortal enemy of the the Obama and his Enviro-Nazis for sure...

4 posted on 06/17/2011 5:36:10 AM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: bert

Harry Reid promised me that the tortoises would be okay.


5 posted on 06/17/2011 5:50:20 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: bert

Yes, Sen. Di FI and her Sierra Club friends have lied to you about their support for “renewable energy”.
They have been blocking this for years!


6 posted on 06/17/2011 5:51:10 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: bert

Yup. One big lie about “green energy” is that it’s harmless to the environment. You’d better believe strip-mining solar energy from 5 square miles is going to impact the local environment, and once solar (or wind, or whatever) power approaches viable on a large scale, greenies will oppose those very same technologies they’ve advocated when not viable.


7 posted on 06/17/2011 5:54:18 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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Another example of liberal government picking winners and losers by using the environment as a club.

Don’t worry, Sierra Club, once all the coal plants, nuclear plants and refineries are shut down, they will go after the solar farms and windmills.

Liberals will be move on to other inefficient energy ideas that only serve to funnel money back to the DNC.


8 posted on 06/17/2011 6:18:55 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Don’t worry, Sierra Club, once all the coal plants, nuclear plants and refineries are shut down, they will go after the solar farms and windmills.

The bastards won't be satisfied until we're all freezing in the dark. Of course, there will be special dispensations made for the political and Hollyweird nomenklatura classes, though ...

9 posted on 06/17/2011 7:00:02 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: bert
Although there are only a few hundred adults, there are thousands of juveniles to be reckoned with.

And that's just in Congress.

10 posted on 06/17/2011 8:26:38 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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Revised projections had estimated there could be as many as 162 adult tortoises and 608 juvenile tortoises on the 5.6-square-mile construction site in the Mojave Desert about 40 miles south of Las Vegas.

Extrapolating that there are 137 tortoises per square mile and there are thousands of square-miles not effected by this project it should be OK to go ahead.

Seems there are many more tortoises than originally thought. Maybe tortoises should not be considered endangered in that range.

11 posted on 06/17/2011 10:11:25 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Pelosi: Obamacare indulgences for sale.)
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To: ctdonath2

Out west solar power makes more much more sense than wind power.


12 posted on 06/17/2011 10:22:27 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Pelosi: Obamacare indulgences for sale.)
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To: bert

I always heard, “Take a lemon and make lemonade”. Okay, lets take a turtle and make turtle soup.


13 posted on 06/17/2011 10:41:04 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: bert

I have a nagging feeling that China is the owner behind the smoke screens of all these big solar projects.


14 posted on 06/17/2011 11:17:05 AM PDT by winodog
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