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Sarah, Bristol Palin to Get Their Trademarks (to protect their names)
U.S. News ^ | Friday June 17, 2011 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 06/17/2011 1:41:21 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

The bids by Sarah Palin and her daughter Bristol Palin to trademark their names and images have cleared a major hurdle and should soon be approved for the potential presidential candidate and her Dancing With the Stars child.

Sources close to the process tell our Suzi Parker that nobody challenged Sarah Palin's trademark application. Today is the deadline to do so. They also say that Bristol Palin's went unchallenged. That deadline passed June 10.

Each should receive their trademark within three months, said the United States Patent and Trademark Office. The clear sailing for both Palins is something of a surprise considering the attention they draw from detractors.

According to both applications, the Palins wanted to make sure that only they could use their names, especially in political circles.

According to Sarah Palin's application, printed below, she wants to protect her name, or "mark," for business and advertising purposes, political elections, entertainment services and for "providing motivational speaking services in the field of politics."

(Excerpt) Read more at usnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; bristolpalin; cashingin; celebrity; msm; palin; patent; sarahpalin; trademark; trademarks
Good! I wonder why many didn't think of this before.
1 posted on 06/17/2011 1:41:28 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

I wonder what the liberal reaction to this will be. They will probably hyperventilate about why the Palins would do this. I can just hear Bill Maher, Letterman, et. al. in their criticism of why they would do that.


2 posted on 06/17/2011 1:44:10 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Bigtigermike

BTTT for interesting news development!


3 posted on 06/17/2011 1:46:48 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Anarchy IS the strategy of the forces of darkness!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I bet Sarah doesn’t care what those yahoos think or say.....it’s a smart move on her part to have exclusive rights to her namesake instead of detractors use it for evil or malicious purposes


4 posted on 06/17/2011 1:48:57 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike
I have a friend who trademarked the word Icke (Berlin slang for I or me) in Germany.
5 posted on 06/17/2011 1:50:40 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Bigtigermike

Has Weiner trademarked “LudicrousPervert” yet?

If not, he needs to get a move on.


6 posted on 06/17/2011 1:50:46 PM PDT by agere_contra ("Debt is the foundation of destruction" : Sarah Palin.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Folks, keep in mind that a trademark (name or not) only applies for the goods or services with which it is actually used as a trademark.

It does mean (cleverly) that Palin can get back any domains that are later registered using her name, for political message purposes.


7 posted on 06/17/2011 2:03:22 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (End the "Fiscal Fiasco" in 2012!)
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To: agere_contra

He tried to get “Weiner Package” but Oscar Mayer objected, since their brand name Wieners come in packages.


8 posted on 06/17/2011 2:03:39 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: agere_contra

I can think of some names/phrases that Obama could trademark:

Zero,
Clueless,
Least Qualified,
Foreign Born,
Worst President Ever,
Golfingest president,
Always on vacation president,
Economy Killing President,
Second coming of Carter president,
Biggest spending president,
Biggest taxing president,
Most jobs destroyed president,
Highest federal deficit president,
Highest federal debt president,
Not legally qualified president,

Plus many more, I’m sure.


9 posted on 06/17/2011 2:07:53 PM PDT by adorno
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To: Bigtigermike

But the name of a president of the US belongs pretty much in the public domain, and probably could not be trademarked.

Any trademark/copyright type lawyers around?


10 posted on 06/17/2011 2:14:58 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88
But the name of a president of the US belongs pretty much in the public domain, and probably could not be trademarked.

This is yet another indication that Palin is unlikely to run for president.

11 posted on 06/17/2011 2:18:05 PM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Will88

If you read the article, this pertains more to the political arena...ie political elections than being president


12 posted on 06/17/2011 2:21:49 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Wolfstar

I guess you didn’t even read the article.....sheesh!!!!


13 posted on 06/17/2011 2:23:23 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike
PDSers are psychic and don't need to read anything by or about Sarah Palin. They already KNOW.
14 posted on 06/17/2011 2:35:13 PM PDT by JPG (Hey, LSM, how are those emails workin' out for ya?)
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To: JPG

LOL!!! that was funny!


15 posted on 06/17/2011 2:43:26 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike
If you read the article, this pertains more to the political arena...ie political elections than being president

I read the article and my comment was directed to the fact that someone who desires to be president would not need, and probably could not obtain such a trademark for his or her name if he or she became president. I doubt a candidate for president could trademark their name, at least while acting as a candidate.

But this is trademark law and there might not even be any precedents for a case like this.

16 posted on 06/17/2011 2:45:36 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88

An attractive female running for president would need it. Especially when Larry Flynt has a history of making porn films using her name to capitalize on her high profile.

She’d want Larry to know he’d be in court for years before the movie ever got released, therefore don’t even bother trying.


17 posted on 06/17/2011 2:56:07 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (We're stuck between Obama's policies that suck and his ineptitude that blows.)
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To: Will88

It states specifically in her application for “political elections, political websites and political/motivating speaking” so this is for political purposes.....it’s to protect her from enemies on the left for creating and using her name and brand for scurrilous reasons....it makes perfect since considering the amount of lies and malicious things that could be done and that includes running for office


18 posted on 06/17/2011 2:59:20 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

They made a movie about George Bush being assassinated. Presidents are in the public arena like no others and I don’t think they are provided such protections against being made characters in novels, or unflattering skits, or movies or political cartoons, or any other media where someone might choose to portray them.

But this is a very specialized area of law that might not have even been addressed yet. So unless someone here is an authoritative attorney in this field, no one here can provide definitive answers.

So I’ll say again, I doubt a president, or a candidate for president would be granted such trademark protection for their name. And, as far as politics goes, her application says nothing more than use to provide information about political elections and issues, a far cry from being a candidate, let alone president.


19 posted on 06/17/2011 3:07:52 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Bigtigermike
A bit more than just political purposes:

...advertising and business for information about political elections; providing a website featuring information about political issues (U.S. CLS. 100, 101 AND 102). First use 1-1-1996; In commerce 1-1-1996. Class 41-educational and entertainment services, namely providing motivational speaking services in the field of politics, culture, business and values...

20 posted on 06/17/2011 3:11:41 PM PDT by elli1
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To: Will88

Say it all you want. The trademark appears to be on track to being granted whether you like it or not.

If you can’t see the reason that she might want such a trademark, I can’t help you.


21 posted on 06/17/2011 3:13:45 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (We're stuck between Obama's policies that suck and his ineptitude that blows.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I believe history will show that the release of Palin emails was a turning point for Sarah and the country. media lost this one badly and they won’t be able to draw blood so easily again. They know it and they’re backing off already. That’s why I truly believe THIS IS THE TIME FOR SARAH TO PUNCH BACK. IT IS HER MOMENT AND SHE SHOULDN’T WASTE TIME.


22 posted on 06/17/2011 3:50:16 PM PDT by parisa
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To: adorno

community agitator president
manchurian Kandidate
wtf president
styrofoam Greek columns president
narcissist-in-chief president
“my people” president
post-partisan/post-racial” racist-radical-socialist president

Please someone stop me already .......


23 posted on 06/17/2011 3:56:45 PM PDT by parisa
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I have a friend who trademarked the word Icke (Berlin slang for I or me) in Germany.

There are five "icke" trademark applications on record with the German Patent and Trademark Office. Three of which were rejected outright. Of the remaining two, one is a combined word/device (i.e., a logo) mark for fashion related goods, and the other is a word mark owned by a meat processing company (goods are not listed in the register, but should be obvious). Since you claim your friend owns a word mark, that must be the meat processing company?

Anyway, for a mark to registered, it is always examined with respect to certain specific goods or services (currently 45 classes according to the Nice Agreement (Nice, as in town-in-France). A mark may be descriptive for some goods/services (and thus be rejected) and distinctive for other goods/services (and thus be allowed).

24 posted on 06/17/2011 4:44:57 PM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: Will88

You need to read up on what the nature of a trademark is, and its purpose and limitations. Try the USPTO website, Wikipedia or any one of hundreds of IP law firm sites. So far, I’m sorry to say, you are utterly clueless.


25 posted on 06/17/2011 4:55:40 PM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: parisa

Palin is playing this perfectly. Name a decision she has had control of and made that she hasnt won at? Her pacing is perfect. Financially? Perfect, PR, Perfect, Political Capital Perfect. Oh no, believe me she is playing this out brilliantly. She will announce at the right moment. She appears to have the Favor of God on her. When you have that, you are always in the majority.


26 posted on 06/17/2011 5:01:34 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: Moltke
That could be. Or maybe he sold it since then. He does have enough money to buy and sell you several times. LoL!
27 posted on 06/17/2011 8:29:42 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Moltke

I clearly said that if Palin becomes a presidential candidate or becomes president, then having her name trademarked will provide her little protection in those capacities. Some can’t confine their thinking to those two possible circumstances Palin might be in in the future.

You’re telling me that a president of the US can trademark their name and image?


28 posted on 06/17/2011 8:33:36 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Moltke
BTW, I think it is kind of weird of you to dedicate your time looking up the identity of a friend I mentioned. That is something I will need to be more mindful of.

Maybe he was one that was rejected after he told me about it. I will ask him. But maybe you should know, nothing in German bureaucracy happens “outright”.

There must have been a lengthy process involved with much rubber stamping. LoL!

29 posted on 06/17/2011 8:41:05 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Moltke

And rather than trying to be a total smartass, why don’t you enlighten the readers about the nature of trademarks as it would apply to a presidential candidate or a sitting president. You’ve shown absolutely nothing getting on here and telling people to read this and that, while providing no sourced and supported information yourself.


30 posted on 06/17/2011 8:41:41 PM PDT by Will88
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
It you can't read what I actually posted, and put it in the context of the post I responded to, then I can't help you.

You're off on a tangent that has little to do with anything I've said. And I don't care who does or doesn't trademark their name and image, and nothing I've said indicated that I did care one way or the other.

Why don't you copy the exact words of mine you responded to with this:

Say it all you want. The trademark appears to be on track to being granted whether you like it or not.

If you can’t see the reason that she might want such a trademark, I can’t help you.

31 posted on 06/17/2011 9:06:34 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Bigtigermike
Sarah Palin ®

I guess she won't be running third-party. /s

32 posted on 06/17/2011 9:41:29 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: Will88
So I’ll say again, I doubt a president, or a candidate for president would be granted such trademark protection for their name.

Say it all you want. The trademark appears to be on track to being granted whether you like it or not.

If you can’t see the reason that she might want such a trademark, I can’t help you.

If you don't get it, fine. It would literally be impossible for me to care any less.

33 posted on 06/17/2011 10:10:18 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (We're stuck between Obama's policies that suck and his ineptitude that blows.)
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To: Bigtigermike

What about Piper and Todd?


34 posted on 06/17/2011 11:15:00 PM PDT by SarahPalinForPresident2012 (She's runnin')
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
Say it all you want. The trademark appears to be on track to being granted whether you like it or not.

You're hopeless, and a waste of time. All my remarks are clearly made in the context of the effect, or lack of same, of a presidential candidate or sitting president trademarking their name and image.

So what if the trademark is on track. That has little to do with any remark I've made. Read the paragraph immediately above and so if it might finally sink in.

35 posted on 06/18/2011 5:11:42 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Berlin_Freeper
BTW, I think it is kind of weird of you to dedicate your time looking up the identity of a friend I mentioned.

I wasn't specifically looking for your friend's name - I did a quick trademark search (takes about 30 sec all told - I wouldn't call that "dedicating my time") on "icke" that just happens to list the applicants. Other than that, I couldn't care less (i.e., I'm not interested in the identity of you or your friends).

Oh, and the trademark examination process actually is fairly outright in Germany. You'll get a yes or no within a few months of filing. Of course, if an application is rejected and the applicant decides to fight it through the various instances, well, that's time consuming anywhere in the world.

36 posted on 06/18/2011 6:50:31 AM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: Will88

Hasn’t the Martin Luther King family been trying to protect his trademark/brand?


37 posted on 06/18/2011 8:11:10 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
Hasn’t the Martin Luther King family been trying to protect his trademark/brand?

Is he a current candidate for president or a sitting president?

38 posted on 06/18/2011 8:12:57 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I wouldn’t be surprised if Letterman’s attorneys didn’t get trademark protection for him decades ago (you know, when he was still funny?). Maher .. well, who else would want to ‘be’ Bill Maher?


39 posted on 06/18/2011 8:15:20 AM PDT by EDINVA ( CHANGE it back!)
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To: Will88

My point was simply that the MLK trademark question was the only one I was aware of from the public/political sphere. He has a national holiday in his honor, and yet his family is trying to profit from and restrict the use of his image, etc..

Not directly analogous to Palin’s situation, but the closest known case I was aware of.


40 posted on 06/18/2011 8:19:56 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

My main point in all this drawn out conversation was that a presidential candidate or a sitting president would probably gain little or nothing by having their name and image trademarked. They are such public figures that I’d be interested in someone citing statutes that describe what benefits they’d have by being trademarked while acting as a candidate or as president.

There are also laws and traditions that restrict what sitting presidents can do. After they’re out of office it might have some benefit, but I even wonder about that. They are then historical figures.

And would a trademark be granted for the name and image of a sitting or former president?


41 posted on 06/18/2011 9:07:23 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88

Yes, I understood that to be your point.

Of course, we’re not expecting Bristol to become a sitting president. All has to work out well for Sarah to become one too. I’m not sure but that she may have applied for it in that time post ‘blood libel’ when she was leaning against running for the presidency, though obviously she has asked for some sort of coverage during campaigns to be included as well. Doesn’t look like she was asking for coverage related to holding the presidency, however.


42 posted on 06/18/2011 9:28:33 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
Doesn’t look like she was asking for coverage related to holding the presidency, however.

This finally gets down to practical questions like: can I print up a bunch of Reagan, Clinton and Obama t-shirts and sell them for a profit? And would the patent office issue those individuals trademark protection that would prevent me from doing it without paying royalties?

Could I print up a bunch of t-shirts with several of my favorite GOP candidates for 2012 on it? Could any of them hold a trademark that would prevent me from doing that without paying royalties?

I doubt those questions have been answered in law.

43 posted on 06/18/2011 10:36:56 AM PDT by Will88
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