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Bachmann: Schools should teach intelligent design
CNN ^ | June 17, 2011 | Peter Hamby

Posted on 06/17/2011 5:37:57 PM PDT by ejdrapes

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To: allmendream

Saying ID can be applied to everything is much different from saying it EXPLAINS everything. Creationists claim God created everything but they make no claim that explains HOW he did it. “Everything” includes the HOW and ID proponants make no pretense of knowing the how. You are in way over your head.


141 posted on 06/18/2011 10:40:01 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: allmendream
"There is nothing proposed about the Big Bang that would be supernatural."

All of the competing Big Bang theories assert that the natural laws of physics don't apply in the singularity which by definition makes it supernatural. Again, you are in way over your head.

142 posted on 06/18/2011 10:41:54 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: tacticalogic

Since no transitional life forms have ever been identified, it is entirely reasonable to conclude they don’t and never existed. Therefore, evolution is based entirely on speculation. That isnot science.


143 posted on 06/18/2011 11:24:11 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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Since no transitional life forms have ever been identified, it is entirely reasonable to conclude they don’t and never existed. Therefore, evolution is based entirely on speculation. That isnot science.

You can make that argument go on forever by simply getting more and more granulare with what's "transitional". What's your "entirely reasonable" conclusion for the fossil evidence that we have found so far?

144 posted on 06/18/2011 2:33:14 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

If you know of a real transitional lifeform, you would be a hero to evolutionists.


145 posted on 06/18/2011 10:20:44 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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If you know of a real transitional lifeform, you would be a hero to evolutionists.

If you had a better explanation you'd be a hero to the creationists.

146 posted on 06/19/2011 12:48:41 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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If you know of a real transitional lifeform, you would be a hero to evolutionists.

If you had a better explanation you'd be a hero to the creationists.

147 posted on 06/19/2011 12:48:52 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: circlecity

Semantics. It is a lower case god in search of a gap.

You asked how it was a god of the gaps argument - and I explained it to you.

You are unable to respond intelligently.

You are way out of your depths and argue like a spastic.

‘It applies to everything is DIFFERENT from saying it EXPLAINS everything’ - sure. You have no explanation other than a lower case god who didn’t make a very good reality.

My God is greater.

He is a competent designer.

ID posits an incompetent designer.

It isn’t science - it is a old and foolish theology - that what science (supposedly) cannot explain of the natural world - there we can see the power of “the designer”.

Every bit of scientific progress and knowledge has been gained from supposing that natural forces are responsible for natural phenomena.

Supposing that supernatural forces are responsible for natural phenomena is an intellectual dead end that has never lead anywhere or produced anything of any value.


148 posted on 06/19/2011 5:20:46 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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