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Jerusalem rabbis condemn dog to death
BBC ^ | 18 June, 2011 | Staff

Posted on 06/18/2011 4:38:26 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad

A Jewish rabbinical court condemned to death by stoning a stray dog it feared was the reincarnation of a lawyer who insulted its judges, reports say.

The dog entered the Jerusalem financial court several weeks ago and would not leave, reports Israeli website Ynet.

It reminded a judge of a curse passed on a now deceased secular lawyer about 20 years ago, when judges bid his spirit to enter the body of a dog.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Israel; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bloodlibel; israel; jerusalem; judaism; rabbis; wackiness
There must be something in the water in this part of the world. Wackiness isn't confined to parts east of Israel, apparently.
1 posted on 06/18/2011 4:38:30 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

“The animal is said to have escaped before the sentence was carried out. One of the judges at the court in the city’s ultra-Orthodox Mea Shearim neighbourhood had reportedly asked local children to carry out the sentence.”

Disgusting.


2 posted on 06/18/2011 4:43:44 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Hey Tea Party folks - what about Social Security reform?)
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To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; Shannon; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; metmom; ...
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3 posted on 06/18/2011 4:46:11 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
Are they trying to think like Muslims? Maybe those who approved this sentence should be stoned to death instead.
4 posted on 06/18/2011 4:47:32 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: AnAmericanAbroad; Eleutheria5; Jewbacca

I’d ask some of our Israeli freepers before taking this story at face value. The BBC is not known for journalistic objectivity in matters concerning Israel.


5 posted on 06/18/2011 4:50:59 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks AnAmericanAbroad.
death by stoning a stray dog it feared was the reincarnation of a lawyer who insulted its judges... The dog entered the Jerusalem financial court several weeks ago and would not leave, reports Israeli website Ynet. It reminded a judge of a curse passed on a now deceased secular lawyer about 20 years ago, when judges bid his spirit to enter the body of a dog.
Or, maybe the effin' dog was just hungry.

Dogs are generally attracted to the strongest odors and smells, just sayin'....


6 posted on 06/18/2011 4:51:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Slings and Arrows
The BBC is not known for journalistic objectivity in matters concerning Israel.

Agreed. When reading a BBC piece, it is always good to keep in mind that you will know less about an incident after reading it than before it.

7 posted on 06/18/2011 4:54:27 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: johniegrad

No way this happened in Israel, probably some muzzie court somwhere and BBC trying to make it look like Israel to promote their pro-Pali agenda.


8 posted on 06/18/2011 4:59:15 AM PDT by conservaterian (Sarah/DeMint '12)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

It might be a hoax. It sounds too stupid to be true.


9 posted on 06/18/2011 4:59:48 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: johniegrad

*snicker*

Good point.

BTW, that line in the article about dogs being considered unclean animals in Judaism is BS. Check out http://www.jewfaq.org/animals.htm for more info.


10 posted on 06/18/2011 5:00:42 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: johniegrad

Agreed, I’m having a lot of trouble buying this.


11 posted on 06/18/2011 5:01:33 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
No wonder they are fighting in the middle east, it's the fasting - low blood sugar. ;)
12 posted on 06/18/2011 5:03:40 AM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: johniegrad

Nicely put. Rather akin to watching too much “reality-based tv,” and finding that your IQ has dropped 40 points. ;)


13 posted on 06/18/2011 5:04:00 AM PDT by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

I am disgusted by this... I would imagine that HE is also.

LLS


14 posted on 06/18/2011 5:09:11 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES... a Conservative subsidiary of Reagan's party)
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To: sayuncledave
I call BS and quote from Judaism 101 as linked above:

Judaism has always recognized the link between the way a person treats animals and the way a person treats human beings. A person who is cruel to a defenseless animal will undoubtedly be cruel to defenseless people.

It should also be noted that belief in reincarnation is a violation of Mosaic Law.

15 posted on 06/18/2011 5:11:50 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This IS my blog site.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

This article should be pulled.

It is Anti-Semitic Propaganda.


16 posted on 06/18/2011 5:32:33 AM PDT by Surrounded_too
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
I can understand lawyers being reincarnated as rats or weasels - sorry for the redundancy - but dogs? No way.
17 posted on 06/18/2011 5:33:44 AM PDT by Apercu ("Obama is graffiti on the wall of American History")
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To: johniegrad

Here’s a link to the original story from YNet Iraeli news.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4082843,00.html


18 posted on 06/18/2011 5:34:28 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses to the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
If there is any truth to this story, remember that David Koresh and Jim Jones considered themselves Christians even though their narcissistic control bore little evidence of it.
19 posted on 06/18/2011 5:51:10 AM PDT by Bearshouse
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To: Surrounded_too
This article should be pulled. It is Anti-Semitic Propaganda.

Agreed. This is nonsense. The BBC will do whatever it can to further its anti-Jewish, anti-Israel agenda.

20 posted on 06/18/2011 5:55:57 AM PDT by Blennos
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To: KantianBurke

“The animal is said to have escaped before the sentence was carried out.”

Maybe it was Houdini.


21 posted on 06/18/2011 6:38:03 AM PDT by patriotsoul
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
From original Article:
"The head of the court, Rabbi Avraham Dov Levin, denied that the judges had called for the dog's stoning. But one of the court's managers confirmed the report to Yedioth Ahronoth. " http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4082843,00.html

In other words, liberal press made up story or refuses to source it
Worse, Arabist BBC takes alleged action of anti-Zionist Haredim to smear Israel.
Ulta-Orthodox Jews don't like dogs. But stoning a dog is illegal in Israel.
22 posted on 06/18/2011 6:42:25 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

According to the article in ynet news.com, an unnamed court manager “confirmed the report to Yedioth Ahronoth”.

The report says:

“It was ordered by the rabbis because of the grief he had caused the court,” he said. “They didn’t issue an official ruling, but ordered the children outside to throw stones at him in order to drive him away. They didn’t think of it as cruelty to animals, but as an appropriate way to ‘get back at’ the spirit which entered the poor dog.”

“Jerusalem City Council Member and social activist Rachel Azaria sent an urgent letter to the attorney general, calling on him to “deal with the criminals”. The Let the Animals Live organization filed a complaint with the police against Rabbi Levin.”

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4082843,00.html

The article also said dogs are “considered an impure animal by Halacha”.


23 posted on 06/18/2011 7:40:59 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: KantianBurke

I was in Israel last week and can attest secular Jews love dogs. Orthodox and ultra-orthodox Jews are very unlikely to have pets.


24 posted on 06/18/2011 7:42:32 AM PDT by chrisinoc
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To: chrisinoc

Do Jewish people believe in reincarnation?


25 posted on 06/18/2011 7:53:09 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

This is a BBC blood libel.

Israel has vigorous animal protection laws.

Dogs are not considered impure in Judaism. In Hebrew they are called Kelev which translates to -— All Heart.

The BBC just hates the “ultra orthodox.”


26 posted on 06/18/2011 7:54:01 AM PDT by dervish (Israel is not what's wrong with the Middle East; it's what's right with it)
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To: cunning_fish

“It might be a hoax. It sounds too stupid to be true.”

Could be. But then, have you ever watched TrueTV’s World’s Dummest ..... ? That is stupidity at it’s finest. lol


27 posted on 06/18/2011 9:05:54 AM PDT by tob2
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To: kalee

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2736481/posts#32


28 posted on 06/18/2011 9:36:27 AM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: dervish
I believe Israel has a no kill policy for strays. They do need to do something about the feral cats; they are everywhere in Tel-Aviv and Jerusalem.
29 posted on 06/18/2011 10:36:46 AM PDT by chrisinoc
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Well well well.

http://lifeinisrael.blogspot.com/2011/06/maariv-apologizes-about-misleading.html

Waiting for the BBC to apologize...

*crickets*


30 posted on 06/18/2011 11:03:26 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

“Waiting for the BBC to apologize...”

“Today, the Maariv newspaper ran a “clarification” and apology about that story, saying the rav had said there is no basis for abusing the dog, not halachically and not logically. The rav had also said that city hall had sent their dog catcher to collect the dog from the premises of the beis din. The newspaper apologizes for the misleading headlines from when it was reported.”

Actually, this doesn’t say that most of the original story isn’t true. It says that the rav said there’s no basis for abusing the dog and a dog cathcher was called for.

Not sure how much of an apology you’ll get on that “clarification”


31 posted on 06/18/2011 11:28:48 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

This sounds like rubbish. A rabbinical court, when it had jurisdiction over capital crimes, would deliberate in full session (23 judges) on the fate of an animal, true. But only for capital offenses delineated in the Torah, such as a dangerous animal that had injured other animals or people repeatedly, and had recently gone so far as to kill someone, or an animal that had sexual relations with a woman. But alleged reincarnations are not something over which a rabbinical court would even have jurisdiction.


32 posted on 06/18/2011 11:56:48 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

I’m not buying this one bit. It looks like Anti-Semitic Propaganda to me.

Besides, even the dumbest of dogs would not allow himself to be taken over by a lawyer. ;>) (my apologies to the good and honest lawyers out there, both of them)

I don’t know where to go with this, but it starts out: A Jew, a lawyer and a dog walk into a bar and the dog says.....


33 posted on 06/18/2011 1:23:19 PM PDT by Gator113 ("GAME ON." I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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34 posted on 06/19/2011 5:17:59 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
I see nothing on Snopes.com or The Jerusalem Post online to corroborate (or debunk) this story.
35 posted on 06/20/2011 9:34:20 AM PDT by rrstar96 (Strength and Honor!)
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To: rrstar96

The BBC has posted a denial, though:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13838347


36 posted on 06/20/2011 9:36:31 AM PDT by rrstar96 (Strength and Honor!)
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To: KantianBurke

Who says the Pharisees and the rest of the odious Sanhedrin is gone?


37 posted on 06/20/2011 11:04:19 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Here you are in the Ninth - two men out and two men on.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

“dog it feared was the reincarnation”

I’d call BS. Reincarnation? Judaism?


38 posted on 06/20/2011 1:43:56 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Who says the Pharisees and the rest of the odious Sanhedrin is gone?
The whole story was a libel by the antisemitic leftist Israeli press. It was an unsourced story, but antisemites fall for anything.
And yes, I am calling you an antisemite. What people think of as traditional Judaism and Orthodox Judaism is Pharaseeism. Rabbinate Jews are descendants of Perushim and the renewed Sanhedrin at Yavneh.
39 posted on 06/21/2011 12:17:43 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Reincarnation is part of Rabbinic Judaism. But only reincarnation and resurrection as a human.


40 posted on 06/21/2011 12:18:43 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: chrisinoc
Orthodox and ultra-orthodox Jews are very unlikely to have pets.

Lots of reasons for this, one of the least of which is that it's not easy to find Kosher pet foods. No, I'm not kidding. Orthodox Jews will not have unkosher products in their homes.

Mark

41 posted on 06/24/2011 7:34:46 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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