Haley Barbour: Tea Party must stick with GOP (Barbour says vote GOP or else)

CBS News ^ | 2011-06-17

[rabscuttle385]

NEW ORLEANS -- Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour told a crowd of conservative activists at the Republican Leadership Conference Friday that they should not "get hung up on purity" when it comes to the Republican nominee for president.

"In politics, purity is a loser," said Barbour, a well-connected GOP insider who earlier this year decided to forgo a presidential run in 2012.

(snip)

Barbour said that this was the first time in his decades in politics that people are regularly telling him that "I'm afraid my children and grandchildren are not going to inherent the same country I inherited."

"Those are the stakes for this election," said Barbour.

That's why, he argued, that the Tea Party cannot effectively serve as a third party, splitting votes on the right.

President Obama "can't lose if we split the conservative vote," Barbour said, adding that "the left is dying for the Tea Party or the whatever party to become a third party."

[rabscuttle385]

Haley, the Tea Party isn't the problem - it's the solution...to the RINO pestilence!

[P-Marlowe]

He’s got it exactly backwards.

The GOP must stick with the Tea Party.

[EQAndyBuzz]

True. The problem isn’t the Tea Party. It’s the RINO’s posing as Republicans.

Hey Haley, why don’t you tell the establishment that they should adhere more to the constitution?

If Romney wins the nomination, I will vote for him. But until that point, I will fight for the conservative. And the MSM should stay the hell out of it.

[mountainlion]

The original tea party started major change in this country that the British lost. Again we are fighting tyranny.

[avacado]

"President Obama "can't lose if we split the conservative vote..."

Excuse me but it's not a split of the conservtive vote. It's a split of the conservative vote from the RINO vote. These idiots are gonna make me vote for Obama if they keep this crap up.

[don-o]

At the very least, Haley is getting the cart before the horse. Let the primary process play out. Focus on holding honest primary elections.

[Vendome]

FUHB.

The GOP must stay with the Tea Party.

[Bringbackthedraft]

Like the Democrats, with their Party controlled by leftists, the GOP is controlled by the mushy Republicans. Give the GOP a real leader and the tea Party will back him/her.

[Diogenesis]

Chihuhua Mitt:
”Now that my RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE
is law, and our beloved Obama has shown himself to be just wonderful,
supporting like me, global warming, ethanol supports, IAG/Sharia,
and fascism-by-stoke-of-our-pen,
a little self examination is in order
for you FReepers and Tea Party peasants.
You should now ask yourself
'if I had spent my time promoting
RomneyCare and Mitt Romney a lot earlier (like Ms. Bachmann),
could not I have garnered more support
of both our new national heroes,
pRes_ _ent Obama and Mitt Romney, today ?'“

[plain talk]

The Tea Party should stick with the GOP. The GOP should stick with the Tea Party. Works for me.

[headstamp 2]

“He’s got it exactly backwards.

The GOP must stick with the Tea Party”

Exactly. In 2010 the establishment GOP had no campaign or message for the mid-terms. If it wasn’t for the Tea Party, the GOP wouldn’t have the House. Also, they went along kicking and screaming all the way when their establishment RINOs went down. They were only too happy to blame the Tea Party for it instead of looking in the mirror.

Then they promptly gave in to Barry at the tail end of last year like the bunch of losers they were.

[GoCards]

Thank you. That was my first thought. Really, Barbour? The Tea Party needs to adhere to GOP, really????? NO

[catnipman]

“If Romney wins the nomination, I will vote for him”

I won’t vote for Romney. He’s a lying, slimy weasel and not much better than Obama.

In fact, I’m starting to think that I’m inclined to vote for Obama if Romney is nominated. Obama purposefully put us in this economic mess with his rampant and deliberately destructive socialism, as well as all of his other deliberately destructive policies, so I say let Obama finish the job! Let him and his damned Socialist Democrat party own their legacy of destruction forever. Let the people of this country make no mistake about what Democrats are all about and what they really do when they rule. Let there be no excuses!

Because if Romney is elected instead, the country is still going to go down in flames, but the climax of destruction will occur on Romney’s watch, allowing the Marxist media swine to convince the naïve public that it’s all the Republicans’ fault.

However, if Obama were to be re-elected, then in future elections (at least a generation or two), the choices should be clear based on the utter destruction wrought by eight years of Obama and the Socialist Democrats. Hopefully after eight years of economic devastation our people would have learned their lessons and would choose prosperity over tyranny, at least for a while longer.

And what if the people want even more of the Socialist Democrats after eight years of terror and destruction? Then unfortunately for we who work and think and know better, the majority will deserve the government they select. But what about you and I, you say? Well, it would be a good time to start a new country within this country, I think. It would be time to select a few good states and migrate there en masse and take them over at the ballot box. It would be time to go Galt.

[Walkingfeather]

FU GOP You are not calling the shots. The tea party will decide whom they vote for, if some of them are GOP endorsed as well as Tea Party then count yourself lucky.

[bgill]

The lack of purity in the GOP is exactly why the haters are in office. Don’t make me hold my nose again voting for RINO losers.

[TomGuy]

He’s got it exactly backwards.

My first thought, too.

If the GOP doesn't get it, they are still going to lose to a weakly Obama. Remember 1996 and a weakly Clinton? The Pubbies are notorious for pulling defeat out of the jaws of victory.

[Scotsman will be Free]

Exactly! The GOP keep pushing RINOs on us and telling us we must vote for said RINOs or the evil dems will win. How’s about sticking with conservatives?

[chooseascreennamepat]

“He’s got it exactly backwards.

The GOP must stick with the Tea Party.”

Bingo!

[Cicero]

I warned people about Haley Barbour when he was planning to run for POTUS. He was relatively conservative as governor of Missouri, because it’s a conservative state.

But above all, he is the ultimate party insider. Karl Rove in a cape. He was running things when nobody ever heard of Karl Rove. His first loyalty is to the party, the pork, and the perks.

[FourPeas]

Could it be Gov. Barbour is being diplomatic in speaking to those conservatives who take the attitude of I’m voting for *candidate name* regardless of who wins the GOP nomination, even if that person is a conservative?

[Texas Eagle]

Just what I’d expect to hear from a pure RINO.

[Scotsman will be Free]

You make some good points, but the MSM will brainwash the sheeple into believing that the evil repubs caused the damage, regardless.
Who got all of the credit when clintoon was prez and the pubbies owned congress?

[Outlaw Woman]

"In politics, purity is a loser," said Barbour,

Barbour said that this was the first time in his decades in politics that people are regularly telling him that "I'm afraid my children and grandchildren are not going to inherent the same country I inherited."

That seems to be "Cause & Effect" Barbour. Wake up.

[Louis Foxwell]

I will not vote for Romney. A difference with no distinction is not change. Romney is a smilier Obama, nothing less.

[Louis Foxwell]

I’m inclined to vote for Obama if Romney is nominated.

Absolutely right on.

[Colonel_Flagg]

Then work for conservatives and support conservatives, Haley. We are no longer on the GOP reservation.

[Moonman62]

Barbour said that this was the first time in his decades in politics that people are regularly telling him that "I'm afraid my children and grandchildren are not going to inherent the same country I inherited."

That's because the GOP never embraced Reaganism. The Bush wing of the GOP pushed the Reaganites out of the party. Barber is facing the wrong direction when he's preaching about unity.

[Colonel_Flagg]

Ping-a-ling to a repeat of yesterday’s post.

[null and void]

The republican party may join us at any time...

[onedoug]

I´m a conservative first.

[GenXteacher]

In a contest between Obama and Romney, the choice is do you take the Democrat or the Communist...

[SERKIT]

The party must stick to the notion that we have tried RINOs in the past and we have tried unapologetic-stick-to-your-principles-Conservatives in the past, and those Conservatives win every time.

RINOs, "softer-kinder-conservatism", weak-kneed conservatives, Constitutional-tinkerers, and flip-floppers are all LOSING party traits. Regan-esque Conservatism wins. Ronaldus Magnus went from being a Dem to a Rep and was a winner. Court Jester Romney is the best Democrat in the race, he is DOA against The Won, and Romney will be a LOSER. The GOP needs to lead from the front, not follow the crowd made up of right-minded Conservatives, TEA Party regulars, and fed-up independents.

Man up and follow the ladies, Haley. They are the only ones, so far, that "get it". Maybe Romney needs a skirt to help gain his elusive credibility.

[Emmett McCarthy]

And so it begins. The mantra that we must follow the GOP boys in their matching belts and shoes “in order to be saved”. Screw that. I had my very last vote extorted that way in ‘08. Not again.

[Tanniker Smith]

I will say that I agree that the Tea Party should not go third party and should get behind the eventual nominee.

That said, I'd like to let all RINOs know that there are different levels of support.

Tea Partiers are not going to be showing the kind of enthusiasm you've seen for someone they are holding their collective noses to support. There would be pictures of tremendous rallies broadcast across the airwaves. They won't be burning up the phone lines to get out the vote. They won't be lighted up the social networks with their support.

If anyone in the GOP establishment is asking themselves, "Where are they going to go?"
Maybe the answer will be, "How about the movie theaters?"

Who knows, maybe Atlas Shrugged might be playing in some second-run houses, which would be preferable to a two-bit RINO.

[cc2k]

Barbour has this wrong. If the GOP can actually deliver on smaller government, reduced budgets and close down some extra-constitutional agencies or departments, they will enjoy the support of the TEA Party. Otherwise, there will be trouble for the GOP.

In 2010, here in Florida's 5th district, we had a Good Old Boy Sherriff that was hand picked by Queen Duchess Ginny Brown-Waite as our Republican candidate. I strongly supported the TEA Party, constitutionalist republican in the primary. But the Washington establishment spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to defeat him. When it came time for the General election, I left my Congressional Representative line blank. My choices were a democRAT who said he supported Obamacare, though it needed a few tweaks, and a Sherriff who nearly doubled the budget and size of his department in less than 10 years. I want a smaller government, and someone who can make do with less. There was no choice for that.

If the total federal spending as authorized and initially passed by Congress is lower in FY 2012 than it was in FY2010, and if it's lower still in FY 2013, then I might consider supporting this guy for re-election. If Federal spending increases, I'm looking for an alternative that will actually reduce the size of the Federal budget.

I wasn't encouraged when our guy supported the Ryan budget plan, a plan to continue spending more than is collected in revenues for at least 20 more years.

BTW, any Republican who voted for that plan, and then doesn't vote to raise the debt ceiling enough to cover 20+ more years of deficits is a hypocrite.

All the GOP stands for (by their actions) is accumulating power and money for the GOP and their pet projects, and preventing the Dems from accumulating power and money for their pet projects. Until there is action to reduce the size and scope of the Federal government, and to start returning things to within the actual limitations of the United States Constitution, this nation is already lost.

I'm not confident that the GOP can make a difference. The TEA party could, especially by holding the GOP to that smaller government, constitutional agenda. Unfortunately, the GOP establishment and leadership refuses to move in that direction, and wants to fight the TEA party at every opportunity. If the GOP chases away the TEA partiers to a third party, that will hurt the GOP even more. But the TEA partiers need to hold to their principles and tell the GOP, we aren't voting for you because you aren't Democrats, we're voting for our principles. If you don't deliver on those principles, you don't get our vote.

[cc2k]

Colonel_Flagg wrote:

Ping-a-ling to a repeat of yesterday’s post.

Any chance you could post a link to the previous posting(s) of this?

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

[muawiyah]

MISSISSISSISSISSISSISSIPPI

[Cicero]

One of those big rivers!

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Exactly. In 2010 the establishment GOP had no campaign or message for the mid-terms. If it wasn’t for the Tea Party, the GOP wouldn’t have the House. Also, they went along kicking and screaming all the way when their establishment RINOs went down. They were only too happy to blame the Tea Party for it instead of looking in the mirror.

Then they promptly gave in to Barry at the tail end of last year like the bunch of losers they were.

^This.^ ALL of this.

[Diogenesis]

Mitt RomneyCARE (D, Shapeshifter): "I'm not running as the Republican view or a continuation of Republican values.
That's not what brings me to the race.
(Backstabber Romney Video, accessed 9/19/07)

"We don't intend to turn the Republican Party
 over to the traitors in the battle just ended.
We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged
 to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support.
Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates
wouldn’t make any sense at all.""
--  President Ronald Reagan

---

Romney (Carpetbagger shapeshifter, D, RINO): ”I'm very clear I think, to the people across the Commonwealth
my "R" didn't stand so much for Republican as it does for reform."
(Flip-flop chameleon artiste and Mitt RomneyCARE
Video, accessed 9/19/07)

"A political party cannot be all things to all people.
It must represent certain fundamental beliefs
 which must not be compromised to political expediency
or simply to swell its numbers."
--  President Ronald Reagan

[submarinerswife]

I just hope the Tea Partiers stay leaderless and truly grassroots.

[submarinerswife]

I think the problem lies with the Republican establishment who chooses who our primary candidates will be.

Dee Dee Scazzafava was a great example of what I am talking about.

We have no power when it comes to who they choose to support.

[patriot preacher]

I should think it’s the other way around. The Republicans had better stick with the Tea Party. The RNC doesn’t recognize who’s in the drivers seat now. After last November, they should have awakened — but no. If they don’t rouse to the reality, they’ll get a RUDE awakening soon enough — and the fault will lie at their feet, not the Tea Party.

[Colonel_Flagg]

I can indeed.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2736252/posts

[ImpBill]

I read the replies and many if not all of them agree in principle with our position. Once the nominee, from the very flawed GOP process, is chosen we will see push by many to get votes out for the RINO or else messages.

Thanks for the ping!

[Mr. Jeeves]

These idiots are gonna make me vote for Obama if they keep this crap up.

I've said before, the best way for conservatives to make a difference is to all register and vote Democrat, then demand their own part of the established spoils system. We have a one-party state, anyway - why vote for the Washington Generals of politics when you can back the Harlem Globetrotters and make them do more of your bidding than the Generals ever could? :)

[LuvFreeRepublic]

Got news for Haley, the GOP better get right with us or the GOP will be history. THEY WORK FOR US!

[bmwcyle]

Perry, Newt, Trump, or Romney are not going to save you. Don’t be fooled like so many here at the FR.

[ngat]

Isn’t the question really, if a conservative is nominated, will the establishment go third party, or will they get behind the nominee?