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Nato admits civilians died in Tripoli bombing raid
telegraph uk ^ | 6/19/2011 | Nick Meo, Tripoli and Ruth Sherlock in Misurata

Posted on 06/19/2011 1:58:47 PM PDT by tobyhill

A military missile site was the intended target of the strike but one weapon could not be accounted for, Nato said, admitting there may have been a weapons system failure. The air strike is thought to have been carried out by French jets.

Nine people, including a mother and father and at least two toddlers, died in the blast at a three-storey building, Libyan officials said. Journalists saw the body of a woman removed from the rubble in the early hours of yesterday and the bodies of casualties at a hospital.

The nationality of planes operating in the area at the time has not been disclosed, although RAF aircraft are understood not to have been involved.

The French defence ministry on Sunday night declined to say whether its aircraft, which include Mirage 2000 fighter jets and Rafale multirole combat aircraft, took part. It said it was up to Nato to disclose the nationality of warplanes under its command. However, Nato said it was up to national governments to do so.

Targeting is very carefully planned in Tripoli because of the potential civilian casualties. Such is the accuracy that Nato has previously been able to destroy the top two floors of a building, destroying troops and weapons, while the bottom two floors have remained intact.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: libya; nato; obama; qaddafi

1 posted on 06/19/2011 1:58:49 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Tripoli is lost and needs to be abandoned.


2 posted on 06/19/2011 2:00:29 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: tobyhill

War is hell.

I sypathize but war is hell. Happened all the time in former wars.


3 posted on 06/19/2011 2:10:34 PM PDT by ozarkgirl (I'm on the Cain train (or Bachman))
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To: tobyhill

arguably, NATO has now killed more civilians, than Quaddafi was “alleged” to have, before the U.N. gave NATO a “no-fly” zone, purely to protect civilians.

(not to mention the many buildings destroyed, fortunately without casualties, like the disabled children’s school, the Orthodox Church, etc.)

...all to help Islamists, who are so few in number, their “popular uprising” can’t topple Quaddafi after 3 months of intense bombing, including directly in ground support with attack helicopters.

...well, at least Goldman-Sachs stands to benefit by erasing their 3.7 billion dollar deal with Quaddafi...


4 posted on 06/19/2011 2:12:16 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: ozarkgirl

Obama said it’s not a “war”.


5 posted on 06/19/2011 2:12:59 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
Nato admits civilians died in Tripoli bombing raid

See Heading "Breaking Eggs" in chapter "Omelet".
6 posted on 06/19/2011 2:21:01 PM PDT by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country.----------In the same way Rush is balance, I am consensus.)
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To: tobyhill

So what?? Just Muslims, they like to die!


7 posted on 06/19/2011 2:24:09 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: tobyhill
This implies that it's NOT a tragedy when NATO kills Libyan soldiers that we have no business fighting. They're not human?

This is a vulgar farce. And it started when chickenhawks/neocons took over the foreign policy “establishment” in the 80’s.

We have no dog in this fight. This is murder.

8 posted on 06/19/2011 2:36:29 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Days .... Weeks ..... Months .....)
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To: tobyhill
These civilians were killed by a civilian friendly NATO bomb, so they're not dead in the real way.

Now if they had been killed by Quadaffi's police/military while looting shops and raping uncovered women, then they would be really dead, not unfortunately dead.

9 posted on 06/19/2011 2:39:29 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: Elendur

Kaddafy’s apologists love it when he kills civilians but then they pretend to care about the civilians NATO kills. They’re not fooling anyone.


10 posted on 06/19/2011 3:11:30 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

We didn’t have a dog in this fight but now if Ole Daffy is killed then NATO and US will not be seen as liberators but as murderers.


11 posted on 06/19/2011 3:42:01 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: Tailgunner Joe

You’re not fooling anyone either.


12 posted on 06/19/2011 4:13:58 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: tobyhill

Exactly, is this ‘hostile’ enough?


13 posted on 06/19/2011 5:40:21 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: tobyhill

Exactly, is this ‘hostile’ enough?


14 posted on 06/19/2011 5:40:27 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Forgotten Amendments

Sadly, I am coming to agree with you, it has now become simply murder.

When a coalition of the supposedly most powerful air forces in the world, cannot quickly subdue a little country with no air defenses like Libya. It points out to me we have squandered many, many, billions of $ on NATO, a worthless and toothless paper tiger.


15 posted on 06/19/2011 6:13:35 PM PDT by Sea Parrot
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To: tobyhill

From Winston Churchill’s “The River War”

“We are told that the British and Egyptian armies entered Omdurman to free the people from the Khalifa’s yoke. Never were rescuers more unwelcome”


16 posted on 06/19/2011 6:20:51 PM PDT by Sea Parrot
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To: tobyhill

NATO robbers murdered more than 800 civilians so far in botched armed robbery.

Now, they are scared s...less. Ground invasion would expose the fraudulent nature of NATO protection racket.

Daffy has armed civilians and waits for NATO ground invasion.

The shores of Tripoli would turn into the streets of Mogadishu.

The unsolvable problem for NATO spinmeisters - if Daffy arms civilians, that means he is no dictator. If civilians are ready to fight NATO goons, oppression is comming from NATO, not Daffy.

With UK and France at the brink of financial collapse, and other NATO countries well beyond that point, it is problem indeed.

The hope of robbing Libya blind in couple of days turned into expensive and potentially fatal strategic mistake.

That’s why Ruskies and Chicoms let U.S. walk into the trap.
It’s popcorn time for them now.

Syria is off limits now. The game of chess is not going well. No wonder having in mind who is at the helm.

The only option for NATO is to declare victory and limp home.


17 posted on 06/20/2011 3:10:20 AM PDT by DTA (U.S. Centcom vs. U.S. AFRICOM)
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To: Sea Parrot
I just saw that National Review Online (NATION REVIEW! Neocon Central!) has a poll up in which 84% of their readers want Congress to cut off funding!!!

National Review!

Viet Nam was never as unpopular as any of these wars. Where's the outrage?

18 posted on 06/20/2011 7:40:03 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Days .... Weeks ..... Months .....)
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To: DTA

Does Libya have the resources to hold out for the rest of the year? I mean, Serbia simply ran out of money in 99 but it sounds like Libya might be in a bit better financial shape than that.


19 posted on 06/24/2011 6:06:17 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: DTA
The shores of Tripoli would turn into the streets of Mogadishu.

That'll never happen. At least not while Germany and France are averaging 1.4 children per family.....

20 posted on 06/24/2011 6:08:38 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: varmintman

I believe that Libyan government key problem is not money but logistics - how to bring imports in. Tunisia is hostile, Algeria, Niger and Chad involve desert transport.

That’s what Brits refer to as time working for them. We’ll see who will run out of supplies first. Italy is already crying uncle.


21 posted on 06/24/2011 6:40:11 AM PDT by DTA (U.S. Centcom vs. U.S. AFRICOM)
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