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Mennonite father locks son in wooden box for two months… for stealing three chickens
Daily Mail ^ | 18th June 2011 | John Stevens

Posted on 06/20/2011 1:32:37 PM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby

A Canadian man who locked his 21-year-old son in a tiny wooden box for eight weeks has been forced to release him by police.

Johan Knelsen was made to live in the homemade prison, no bigger than a portable toilet, in the basement of his home in Santa Cruz, Bolivia.

His father, David Knelsen, told police that his son was mentally ill and needing punishing for stealing livestock

Local media reported that the young man had also used a telephone.

The family are Mennonites, a Christian denomination that follows a strict interpretation of the Bible and shuns the use of technology.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bolivia; father; mennonite

1 posted on 06/20/2011 1:32:39 PM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby
...the young man had also used a telephone.

OMG, it's a wonder he wasn't excommunicated...............

2 posted on 06/20/2011 1:34:55 PM PDT by Red Badger (Nothing is a 'right' if someone has to give it to you................)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

The Amish are snorting “8 weeks! Thou art lenient to the point of useless!”


3 posted on 06/20/2011 1:35:45 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: Red Badger

>>OMG, it’s a wonder he wasn’t excommunicated............... <<

Much worse — they don’t excommunicate: they SHUN!


4 posted on 06/20/2011 1:36:38 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: Red Badger

That’s foul ... for such a poultry act


5 posted on 06/20/2011 1:38:35 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Hoping to have some change left)
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To: clamper1797

I hope you catch fire


6 posted on 06/20/2011 1:39:47 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

Where in the Bible is there any hint that people are not supposed to use technology??? A boat, a hammer, a saw, nails, were all the latest technology at one time...


7 posted on 06/20/2011 1:40:03 PM PDT by DB
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To: clamper1797

A bird in the hand gets you two in the box...................


8 posted on 06/20/2011 1:40:17 PM PDT by Red Badger (Nothing is a 'right' if someone has to give it to you................)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby
Carr: Them clothes got laundry numbers on them. You remember your number and always wear the ones that has your number. Any man forgets his number spends a night in the box. These here spoons you keep with you. Any man loses his spoon spends a night in the box. There's no playing grab-ass or fighting in the building. You got a grudge against another man, you fight him Saturday afternoon. Any man playing grab-ass or fighting in the building spends a night in the box. First bell's at five minutes of eight when you will get in your bunk. Last bell is at eight. Any man not in his bunk at eight spends the night in the box. There is no smoking in the prone position in bed. To smoke you must have both legs over the side of your bunk. Any man caught smoking in the prone position in bed... spends a night in the box. You get two sheets. Every Saturday, you put the clean sheet on the top... the top sheet on the bottom... and the bottom sheet you turn in to the laundry boy. Any man turns in the wrong sheet spends a night in the box. No one'll sit in the bunks with dirty pants on. Any man with dirty pants on sitting on the bunks spends a night in the box. Any man don't bring back his empty pop bottle spends a night in the box. Any man loud talking spends a night in the box. You got questions, you come to me. I'm Carr, the floor walker. I'm responsible for order in here. Any man don't keep order spends a night in...

Luke: ...the box.

Carr: I hope you ain't going to be a hard case.

9 posted on 06/20/2011 1:42:37 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: DB
Where in the Bible is there any hint that people are not supposed to use technology??? A boat, a hammer, a saw, nails, were all the latest technology at one time...

Fifty years from now they'll all be driving Model-Ts.

10 posted on 06/20/2011 1:43:47 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: DB

Not to mention swords, first bronze, then iron. And slings and arrows. Chariots and catapults......


11 posted on 06/20/2011 1:45:17 PM PDT by Red Badger (Nothing is a 'right' if someone has to give it to you................)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

I call BS. Strother Martin’s been dead for thirty years.


12 posted on 06/20/2011 1:45:28 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Fido969

Ahhhh! The blessings of communal living. Got Kool Aid?


13 posted on 06/20/2011 1:51:47 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

Tonight he’s gonna party like it’s 1699.


14 posted on 06/20/2011 2:00:12 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

Genuinely psychotic.


15 posted on 06/20/2011 2:03:20 PM PDT by LanaTurnerOverdrive ("I've done a lot of things in my life that I'm not proud of. And the things I am proud of are disgus)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

well you can be sure he won’t do THAT again...


16 posted on 06/20/2011 2:21:21 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

We have quite a few Mennonite farms nearby. LOTS of tractors and other power equipment. I suspect the reporter is confusing ‘Mennonite’ with ‘Amish’.


17 posted on 06/20/2011 2:21:39 PM PDT by Grut
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive

And not at all “typical” of Mennonites.


18 posted on 06/20/2011 2:24:43 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The first duty of intelligent men of our day is the restatement of the obvious. " - George Orwell)
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To: jonrick46

I don’t know about this Bolivian group, but in general, Mennonites do not live communally. It is not part of their doctrine. They live in families. You may be thinking of the Hutterites: they’re communal. Different group.


19 posted on 06/20/2011 2:27:18 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification.)
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To: Grut
There are different sects of both Amish & Mennonites with differing rules regarding technology. For example, there are Mennonites who allow cars as long as the bumpers are painted black (chrome is regarded as too showy). There are Mennonites who have no tech restrictions. There are Old Order Mennonites who are close to the Amish in beliefs.

The groups who ban certain modern devices do it mainly to avoid bad "worldly" influences from the outside world. Considering the disastrous impact of Hollyweird, TV, and the MSM on society, I think they have a point. Another reason for avoiding cars is to keep people together in the community, centered around the church. By their rules, Amish and more traditional Mennonites have maintained their communities and culture for centuries, while mainstream culture is now wallowing in manure (e.g. Weiner).

20 posted on 06/20/2011 2:36:27 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

I think the writer is confusing Mennonites with Amish. I know several mennonites and they are very techno-literate.


21 posted on 06/20/2011 2:41:06 PM PDT by Jemian
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To: All

Anyone know if Mennonites have Rumspringa, and if so would this be the age where his son experiences it?


22 posted on 06/20/2011 2:58:42 PM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby
"that his son was mentally ill and needing punishing for stealing livestock"

This strict discipline might save his son from real jail later, where a mentally ill 21-yr-old white person would have it far worse.

23 posted on 06/20/2011 3:18:29 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I’m thinking of old order Mennonites, who are quite collective and kibbutz type in their community. There are more modern Mennonites who are integrated into society and use technology. I suspect the father was old order Mennonite.


24 posted on 06/20/2011 5:18:25 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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