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Andrea Yates could be freed by the end of this year
Daily Mail ^ | 8:31 PM on 20th June 2011 | By David Gardner

Posted on 06/20/2011 4:28:53 PM PDT by Niuhuru

A mother who shocked America by drowning her five children in the bathtub may be freed by the end of the year, according to her lawyer.

Andrea Yates systematically murdered her children, aged between six months and seven years, at her suburban Clear Lake, Texas, home ten years ago today.

She then dialled 911 and told the first police officer who arrived at the house: 'I just killed my kids.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: adnreayates; bathtub; child; crime; drowning; katiecouric; kids; killer; lawyer; mother; murder; officer; police; psychosis; suburban; texas
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To: basil

She figured out how to drown those 5 kids between the hour her husband left for work and her MIL was scheduled to arrive to help her out with the kids.

She then immediately called 911 and confessed to killing them and then called her husband to say she did it.

She was with it enough to plan and murder her children in a methodical manner. She was with it enough to wait for a time when she was alone to pull it off.


151 posted on 06/21/2011 8:25:42 AM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Dude! If she did that to her own kids W-T-F do you think she’d do to you or me?


152 posted on 06/21/2011 8:34:28 AM PDT by Justa
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To: CajunConservative

Agreed. Imho, she did it out of anger for her husband. Revenge. She’s one scary woman.


153 posted on 06/21/2011 8:38:49 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

“But then, 70 years ago we just killed “mental defectives”..”

Wrong, we just killed MURDERERS.

People are more important than a person’s mental state. Something modern “progressives” -such as yourself obviously- do not appreciate.


154 posted on 06/21/2011 8:39:02 AM PDT by Justa
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To: trisham

I don’t get the angst over this woman. She has crossed the line of acceptable behavior. Anyone who can rationalize murder is simply not someone to ever be trusted in society again.


155 posted on 06/21/2011 8:43:35 AM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: CajunConservative

Agreed. I wouldn’t want her living next door to me.


156 posted on 06/21/2011 8:46:59 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

We followed this case when it happened how could Houston folks avoid it! I have trouble imagining that she could ever live outside an institution but the one to blame or at least share the blame is her former husband.

His treatment of this woman was absolutely horrible and he needs to be behind bars for abuse for life. He is a MONSTER!


157 posted on 06/21/2011 8:49:52 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“she will have to live with the memories of what she did.”

BS, she’ll blame her husband just like some on this board.

If she had free will to kill she had free will to walk away.

She chose murder as her freedom.

Fry the bitch!


158 posted on 06/21/2011 8:50:24 AM PDT by Justa
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To: trisham

The least the state could do is lock her up for life.


159 posted on 06/21/2011 8:50:32 AM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: CajunConservative

Too late.


160 posted on 06/21/2011 8:57:32 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Ditter

“His treatment of this woman was absolutely horrible and he needs to be behind bars for abuse for life. He is a MONSTER!”

Oh, the “Devil made me do it” defense? That’s pure crap.

She could have walked out and left them for the MIL to care for. She could have filed for divorce. She chose to stay and murder.

Mark my words, she’ll kill again.

Will you blame the victims then as well? I’ll be sure to bump you when it occurs. I’d say within 5 years.


161 posted on 06/21/2011 9:05:12 AM PDT by Justa
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To: trisham

The state didn’t charge her with all of the children’s murders. I think there is still two left they can charge her with, since there is no statute of limitations for murder.


162 posted on 06/21/2011 9:18:58 AM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: Justa
Well crap back atcha’! She was mentally and emotionally abused by her husband for a long time before she finally did the deed. This didn't just happen after the 5th baby was born. We had to watch this story on the news for months and months. You can think whatever you want but the ex husband needs to be locked up for life for the way he abused this woman and she needs to remain locked up as well.
163 posted on 06/21/2011 9:43:44 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: CajunConservative

It might be worth it.


164 posted on 06/21/2011 10:24:06 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Ditter

He set it all up by his treatment of her and the children...but no one seems to think that matters.
He deliberately did not comply with recomendations , nor did his family, of stopping this train wreck.


165 posted on 06/21/2011 10:38:23 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: Ditter

It is unbelievable how many posters have no idea of this whole story. Thanks for your posts to clear up so many ingoramouses..ha.


166 posted on 06/21/2011 10:41:52 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: Ditter
She was mentally and emotionally abused by her husband for a long time before she finally did the deed.

A lot of women are mentally and emotionally abused by their husbands....THEY DIDN'T KILL THEIR KIDS.

167 posted on 06/21/2011 10:44:47 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Justa

Fry the bitch!


Can’t on this murder court action.


168 posted on 06/21/2011 10:47:19 AM PDT by deport
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Some of us are quite aware of the whole story, we just believe that a dangerous mass murderer should never see the light of day again.

She crossed the line in rationalizing murder, then methodically carrying it out in between the time her husband left for work and her MIL was supposed to show up.

She can never be trusted on the outside to be 100% med compliant and therefore does not deserve one moment of freedom ever again. We used to have the guts to institutionalize these people due to them being a danger to society.


169 posted on 06/21/2011 10:53:28 AM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: CajunConservative
We used to have the guts to institutionalize these people due to them being a danger to society.


That's the exact situation we have here. She was institutionalized but is now being released. One may question the action/justification of release but she has served what was imposed upon her by the legal system.

170 posted on 06/21/2011 10:58:21 AM PDT by deport
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To: deport

There are still two of the murders she can be charged with. You would think that the state hospital would be a lot more cautious after they released a violent murderer who murdered a child just a few months later.

There should be zero release of violent murderers. Shrinks are part of the reason she acted out her murderous compulsion when they refused to put her back on haldol. Shrinks should not be the last word on releasing her.


171 posted on 06/21/2011 11:03:32 AM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: Niuhuru
She's not the only evil maniac in the world.
Maybe someone will chase her down a hallway...
172 posted on 06/21/2011 11:05:56 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: CajunConservative

There are still two of the murders she can be charged with.


That is correct and it will be interesting to see if the state chooses to proceed with another trial.


173 posted on 06/21/2011 11:33:00 AM PDT by deport
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To: dfwgator

Thanks for explaining how everyone is exactly alike mentally and physically and we all react EXACTLY the same to everything in our lives. So I guess we will all die of the same disease in the end, right? sarcasm (in case you don’t recognize it)

This woman was obviously not playing with a full deck from the beginning and her mental deterioration was ignored by everyone. Does that mean I think she should get out? NO absolutely not I hope she stays locked up someplace for the rest of her life.

I guess her husband will have to wait and get his when he meets his maker, the evil SOB!


174 posted on 06/21/2011 12:32:45 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: CajunConservative
Her father was mentally ill

He had Alzheimer's...was there more?

175 posted on 06/21/2011 5:52:18 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Niuhuru

Having been around insane people, you know that they often don’t understand that what they’re thinking and doing doesn’t make sense. And, of course, women who stay in abusive relationships have baggage coming into the relationship that make them willing to stay even in horrible situations which only adds to their delusions of what “normal” is.


177 posted on 06/24/2011 4:50:26 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Thank you for your nice words. I’m afraid, though, that I don’t deserve the compliments. My mother and my relationship has been strained for years, and her lack of touch with reality has only made it worse. She was likely a nice person before she spent years with my father, but she hasn’t been that person for 30+ years. Only one of her sisters, one of the most patient people on the planet, still keeps in touch with her.


178 posted on 06/24/2011 5:00:58 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: little jeremiah; Niuhuru
Yes, but your mother didn’t kill five babies.

That's true.

The Voice has told my mother that if she doesn't do what it says, it will "forget her name." To her this means that God will send her to hell when she dies unless she does what the voice says. She's done plenty of things that she didn't want to do, that no rational person would do, because she believes the voice holds this power over her. Were the voice to tell her to kill children, she very likely might do it -- because she's not in her right mind. I wouldn't put it past her to do almost anything the voice tells her because she believes it's God doing the talking.

This may very well be something that really has to be lived to be believed. I wouldn't doubt it. So many things I scoffed at aren't so far fetched after what I've seen in the past few years. What I thought was "normal" wasn't. What looked from the outside like "normal" and even loving, wasn't. It's amazing how much can be wrong and seemingly no one is aware of it.

179 posted on 06/24/2011 5:18:38 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: FourPeas

“This may very well be something that really has to be lived to be believed. I wouldn’t doubt it. So many things I scoffed at aren’t so far fetched after what I’ve seen in the past few years. What I thought was “normal” wasn’t. What looked from the outside like “normal” and even loving, wasn’t. It’s amazing how much can be wrong and seemingly no one is aware of it.”

Yes, I can definatly identify with that. Either way, have you considered asking your mother to take pills?


180 posted on 06/24/2011 5:51:37 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: FourPeas

FourPeas, my mother was loony and after a while, I broke it off. Do it to save yourself if you have to, you’ll be a lot less stressed. She died some time after and I can easiily tell you that you might feel guilty that your mother (as mine did) had it so bad that she went crazy, but you cant let that ruin your own life and self destruct like they did. Your mother was abused to the point of insanity, but she is at this point so out of touch that she would only be a burden to the life you’re trying to live.


181 posted on 06/24/2011 5:58:31 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Niuhuru

Thank you. I used to feel badly. I tried to help her, but I couldn’t drag both myself and her out of it. I have my own family that needs me and right now she’s too toxic.


182 posted on 06/24/2011 7:06:05 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: Niuhuru
have you considered asking your mother to take pills?

No, I've not tried. She doesn't trust psychologists or psychiatrists or anything having to do with them. Getting her help would require legal action. Since there's currently no indication she's a danger to herself or others, that's not an option.

183 posted on 06/24/2011 7:15:20 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: FourPeas

One major problem is that these days, people are not encouraged to give up on the dysfunctional. Once you do, you will feel a million times better. Let her wallow in her own psychosis and indulge; if she self destructs, she at the least won’t tkae you with her.


184 posted on 06/24/2011 8:39:47 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: FourPeas

“Getting her help would require legal action. Since there’s currently no indication she’s a danger to herself or others, that’s not an option.”

Which is a huge pity; if she does hurt someone, then it will be of little comfort to the victim.


185 posted on 06/24/2011 8:41:07 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

“I can’t imagine any caring husband and father doing what he did.”

They’re called religious zealots. They tend to act in such a manner.


186 posted on 07/23/2011 5:34:32 AM PDT by KantianBurke
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