Skip to comments.FReep a Poll:Do you believe <snip> blaming the wildfires burning in Arizona on illegal immigrants?
Posted on 06/20/2011 5:28:39 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG
Do you believe Sheriff Larry Dever and Senator John McCain are correct in blaming the wildfires burning in Arizona on illegal immigrants? Yes No Undecided
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McCain got this one right.
Yes - 60%
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What’s been most disturbing in this question is that the Newsies seem to be unaware of how fires start.
But their so much smarter than us unwashed! the world would be so much better off we would just let them have their way !
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We frequently see reports of "human-caused" fires near the Mexican border. Anybody with intellectual honesty (rules out Newsies) know illegal aliens are probably causing the vast majority of the fires.
wouldn’t be the first time.
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Believing whether they are or not is an erroneous basis for making any allegations.
Believing that the moon is made of green cheese doesn’t make it so.
Believing in global warming doesn’t make it so.
Either illegals did or didn’t. If there is no evidence, than the Sheriff and the Senator are making false allegations. Show the proof.
Dude! What? Wait...
There is no way of telling. It could be from anybody with a careless cigarette.
Both the Sheriff and McCain have put themselves in a position to be attacked. Their statements are entirely politically incorrect. We are not supposed to notice when illegal aliens commit crimes in this country. When you do you be quickly labeled as an obvious racist. I don’t know anything about the sheriff, but McCain spends most of his energy sucking up to the Left (unless he running for President, of course) and has made his views supporting amnesty for illegal aliens well known. (Yes, I know he calls it something else, but it is still amnesty.) McCain has nothing to gain by blaming the wildfires on illegal aliens. He is not up for reelection in the near future. I am inclined to believe that he is telling the truth on this one.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
The good news is that if illegals did start the fires, they burned out a whole lot of their cover for illegal crossings.
That’s what the Newsies keep telling us!
Nothing to see here, keep moving.
I heard they were questioning 2 people that had camped there and neglected to put out their campfire all the way.
That was 2 days ago when I was almost right in the middle of the fire - I was less than 5 miles from it in AZ and heard this on an AZ radio station.
Rumor on the street here in torched country is that the BP has video of drug runners setting the damned thing as a diversion. And we burn....
Monument Fire started close to the border in an area that had been closed to campers, hikers etc. The area has tons of illegal traffic. They have already determined it was human caused. Even if it is proved to be caused by illegals, the national agencies will never say it due to PC. Odds are it is exactly what Dever and Mc Cain have said.
This is a typical liberal question- did the illegals set all the fires? No of course not, did they set some of the fires- very likely since they do it all the time. Lack of awareness of the border situation- media won’t listen, won’t do their research, won’t report due to PC, you name it. Illegals setting fires is NOT new, it is common knowledge of anyone that is familiar with the border issues. They set fires for warmth, cooking, and as a diversion for smuggling activities. The only “new” thing is it is so dry any fire is likely to get out of control and become a major issue. That and many do not want to admit that illegals regularly have and do cause fires, just not PC don’t you know?
But explained McCain, federal personnel have told him for years and years that ILLEGALS do set fires all the time.
Imus got old and now he's getting old. Maybe it's just the trouble that one of his, if not the, most admired guys, Anthony Weiner, is in.
Every f'in day I as a U.S. citizen get blasted for starting ALL forest fires!
You citizens out there, stop setting forest fires! demands the stupid "Smokey" PSA on my local radio stations.
What? liberals are going to demand a disclaimer for
ILLEGALS "We know that you border crossers are not doing this. Please accept the apology of the United States Government and Her caring people if we offended you."
And what if the evidence is there- and they don’t want to release it? When the Horseshoe 2 fire started, Border Patrol said they were pursuing smugglers and the smugglers set the fire as a diversion, BP caught the smugglers. Early media reports said illegals started the Horseshoe 2 fire- then up the food chain at Border Patrol they would not confirm that illegals set the fire, in fact the BP started telling people to call Forest Service for questions about the fire. Locals in the area were trying to find out if the smugglers would be charged with setting the fire and BP didn’t want to deal with all the press and fall out- that is why they clammed up.
Illegals do set fires all the time and when they are caught they are usually charged with the normal charges for illegals or smuggling, not usually charged with setting fire. If you or I start a fire we will be charged and if the fire is a large one we will be named in the media, and the government will attempt to make us pay for the cost of the fire.
Do illegals start all the fires? Of course not, but when the shoe fits they should darn well have to wear it, just as everyone else has to. There should be no sliding out of things just because you are here illegally. Some times it is just obvious if a fire starts in a remote location where illegal traffic is heavy and the fire is determined to be human caused. In places where there is normal legal hiking, camping activity it is not so clear- but some of the areas are basically owned by smugglers and illegals so it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out which group of humans are the cause of some fires.
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McCain was briefed by the forest dept who made the statement to congress
It is also McCain’s fault for letting them in.
It’s appropriate that he’s taking heat for calling them out.