Skip to comments.Yes, there is a difference between American and Japanese cars
Posted on 06/20/2011 6:36:40 PM PDT by KevinDavis
A lot of words have been written in the past few post-tsunami weeks about the negative impact of the disastrous tragedy on the short-term future of Japanese cars in the U.S. market. In parallel, many articles proclaim this to be a historical window of opportunity for the Detroit Three, now able to deliver to waiting customers an abundant supply of new vehicles while, at Toyota, Honda and Nissan, the cupboard is bare.
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If there was ever a moment in time to have your supply capacity kneecapped, this would be it because everyone’s broke.
>> “There is Hyundai and Kia..” <<
How far can you pull your 6000 lb trailer behind your Kia?
My vette seems to be holding up pretty well.
I’d rather just wait.
In any case, I like to buy a car and drive it into the ground before I get the next one. I’m still driving a 1999 Subaru Outback, which does well in the snow and dirt roads. And we just bought my youngest son a 1997 Subaru, which is actually in rather better shape than mine.
The first Kia SUV had enough tow bar power to pull a pretty good sized boat. Later ones have had less.
and VW, Mercedes, Volvo, Porsche, and all the other European manufacturers!
>> “My vette seems to be holding up pretty well.” <<
Mine didn’t, it rattled and squeeked me to death, but that was 49 years ago :o)
I will keep my Diesel Dodge Dually.
And let’s not forget, we are ALL PAYING for the “magnificent” Chevy Volt — all 300 of them that have sold or whatever.....
Yes, the Japanese is run on s**t. No it’s the new meat I’m thinking of. My bad.
I demand a vehicle that can do all the tasks that I might reasonably expect to have to do to keep my family safe and healthy.
There is no non-commercial duty japanese vehicle that can do that.
I’m with you. I have a 2000 Outback (bought in 2002). When my daughter gets her license, I’ll eventually pass that on to her...and hope for a 2010 or 2011 Ourback coming off lease. I really like the new models.
Every “American” car that I like is made in Mexico. The “foreign” cars that I like are actually made in places like Kentucky, South Carolina, California, and Ohio. Go figure.
The USA is in decline because many Americans cut their nose off to spite their face and have forgotten that it is in all of our interests to put the economic interests of our fellow countrymen first, before the Asians or any others.
Locale and country have much more to do with purchasing decisions, not ideology. I make it a priority to buy products made or grown by Americans, just as I also put buying from local businesses in my jurisdiction a priority. In the end it helps me and my neighbors.
The genuine “Electric Lavanna.”
I’ll keep my Shelby GT500, thank you very much.
You might check with John Edwards on that. He'd figured out that the best vehicle to get was a Jeep Cherokee. He gave his kid the keys and he drove off to his death.
I agree. American sounding names are not necessarily US companies. I look and examine where products are produced, not based upon their name. Ford has many cars made in Mexico. There are few so called US corporations left. Most are out there to make a buck and a provide multi million dollar CEO bonus anywhere they can find it.
I have three of them.
GM kind of queered the deal for me with their diesels. Ford showed me what they could do with a 1967 Falcon with some unique properties. One of them was that the headliner would collapse when one was going about 70 mph obscuring your vision. I don’t even remember the Chrysler model, but I didn’t get it off the lot.
My first Honda Civic lasted for 358,000+ miles before the head gasket failed. Since then it has been Japanese cars all the way. My 1995 Acura has 258,000+ miles on it. I hope to get to 350,000 before it rusts away.
Yes you need to stick to the gm blazer.
For the price of a Corvette, you could have bought a sports car.
My Honda Civic does quite well. Well priced and apportioned, gets great mileage and has a terrific resale value. I have never had any “big three” vehicle that held value worth squat, and some were downright lemons.
Were I to buy a big three auto, it would be a truck. F-150.
My ‘97 Jeep Cherokee will keep getting new brakes, suspension, belts, tires, hoses and any other necessary parts until it falls into dust. Even if I end up putting 2 or 3K some years into it, that is preferable to spending money for a new vehicle.
I ADORE My 04 Grand Cherokee. 124,000 miles and still going strong. Just added a 2” lift and Bilstein shocks, too.
Interesting how GM had to shutdown some line because parts weren’t coming into the US from Japan after the earthquake/tsunami. One wonders.
I’ve become quite a fan of Ford & Lincoln.
Lutz said the American auto industry's plunge into bankruptcy was more down to tunnel vision from business school graduates than union greed. He beats on the media for favoring foreign cars over domestic ones and politicians for not having the guts to introduce a European style gas tax, and he lauds Volkswagen's leader Ferdinand Piech for his tough but successful management style.
Lutz is also justly proud of perhaps his last big decision before he ended his career at GM - forcing the revolutionary Chevrolet Volt past the doubters.
From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110614/OPINION03/106140318/Lutz-says-business-theorists-hurt-auto-industry-more-than-UAW#ixzz1Ps2dT56F
My first Ford Ranger PU went about 350,000 before losing its head gasket, the first internal repair of the engine, and I gave it to my son in law who drove it another 100,000 or so before selling it to his neighbor, who is still happily driving it.
Geography is not everything. There is nothing less American than nationalizing GM and Chrysler, violating existing (centuries old but still the law of the land and the expectation of those who were robbed) bankruptcy/contract/common law. There is nothing less American than stealing from the bondholders, the rightful claimants on the GM/Chrysler assets to give the loot to politically connected Dem donors including the UAW. I am pro-America, far more so than those who support the bailout, and I will never again buy any GM/Chrysler product. Those companies are dead to me. I have no problem with buying Ford, VW, Toyota, Honda, Kia, or any other brand unaffiliated with the criminal operations in Detroit, but I am boycotting GM forever in favor of more American companies - like Subaru.
Ford does the job, more so than any other manufacturer, in the long run.
I’m with you 100% on this. I proudly have an American made Hyundai and a pre bail out Suburban. Will be my last Suburban.
If you can break or wear out a 4.0 you should be ashamed of yourself.
That’s well-said, and that’s where I am too, having spent my entire life a Chrysler Corp buyer; I’d never look at another one. Ford? Still UAW and Obama thugs.
I keep cars until they are dead, so I haven't had many even in my many years, but I have had two GM vehicles. As you said, never again.
I love my Forester. It has almost 250,000 miles. I hope to get many more before I have to trade.
Ford is a different issue because they did not take the bailout. I see boycotting GM/Chrysler forever as a moral imperative, while boycotting Ford is an optional political decision that I completely understand.
Exactly. The straight 6-4.0/4.2 design is proven, with tons of aftermarket parts available. Just feed it fresh oil every 4 to 6k miles. I added a K&N washable air filter and 2” pipe, and get 23-25 mpg on the highway. The drive train is decent in the 90’s and early 2000’s vehicles, the bodywork is great, interior well done ... its a vehicle that, if you don’t trash it off-road, will easily do 200-250k miles before needing anything even resembling serious work.
Very nice ride. Heck of a car.
Other than trucks and whatnot for hauling my go fast boats and other toys I've been going German recently. AMG Mercedes and 911. I recently drove a buddies GT500 and found it to be an awesome vehicle. He has something else called an Ariel Atom. That thing is insane!
The summary demonstrates that Lutz wasn't much of a "car guy".
"Car guys" don't count on political correctness and European-style gas taxes to sell their cars.
Lutz is a fraud.
Actually GM and Chrysler bailouts were chickenfeed compared to the banks such as CitiCorp and Goldman and Wall St and AIG? They should have all been sent into bankruptcy where the shareholders lost all their wealth like GM, but instead were and are still being handed US taxpayer obligations by the trainloads without producing anything of tangible value for the USA.
I didn’t support any bailout but the banks should have been knee capped, bankrupted and recapitalized by Govt. and then sold off and proceeds returned to taxpayers instead of going to banksters and their management.
You mean the 300 that was sold from one dealership to another. < /s>
I'm with you on that. I also closed my Citi and B of A accounts and no longer accept checks drawn on those banks. I take corruption seriously and do not deal with crooks. Still, the discussion was cars, so I stuck to that sector of modern liberal corruption.
Auto union, ugh! I rather drive a Boeing.