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Yes, there is a difference between American and Japanese cars
Reuters ^ | 06/20/11 | Bob Lutz

Posted on 06/20/2011 6:36:40 PM PDT by KevinDavis

A lot of words have been written in the past few post-tsunami weeks about the negative impact of the disastrous tragedy on the short-term future of Japanese cars in the U.S. market. In parallel, many articles proclaim this to be a “historical window of opportunity” for the “Detroit Three,” now able to deliver to waiting customers an abundant supply of new vehicles while, at Toyota, Honda and Nissan, the cupboard is bare.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.reuters.com ...


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KEYWORDS: automakers; cars; honda; nissan; toyota
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Sorry GM,Ford, and Chrysler is still overpriced Union made crap

There is Hyundai and Kia..
1 posted on 06/20/2011 6:36:48 PM PDT by KevinDavis
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To: KevinDavis

If there was ever a moment in time to have your supply capacity kneecapped, this would be it because everyone’s broke.


2 posted on 06/20/2011 6:39:44 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Just once I'd like someone to call me 'Sir' without adding 'You're making a scene.' - Homer Simpson)
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To: KevinDavis

>> “There is Hyundai and Kia..” <<

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How far can you pull your 6000 lb trailer behind your Kia?


3 posted on 06/20/2011 6:40:30 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: KevinDavis

My vette seems to be holding up pretty well.


4 posted on 06/20/2011 6:40:55 PM PDT by RC one
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To: KevinDavis

I’d rather just wait.

In any case, I like to buy a car and drive it into the ground before I get the next one. I’m still driving a 1999 Subaru Outback, which does well in the snow and dirt roads. And we just bought my youngest son a 1997 Subaru, which is actually in rather better shape than mine.


5 posted on 06/20/2011 6:41:50 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: editor-surveyor

The first Kia SUV had enough tow bar power to pull a pretty good sized boat. Later ones have had less.


6 posted on 06/20/2011 6:42:00 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: KevinDavis

and VW, Mercedes, Volvo, Porsche, and all the other European manufacturers!


7 posted on 06/20/2011 6:42:19 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Red Badger

Ping


8 posted on 06/20/2011 6:43:30 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: RC one

>> “My vette seems to be holding up pretty well.” <<

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Mine didn’t, it rattled and squeeked me to death, but that was 49 years ago :o)


9 posted on 06/20/2011 6:43:40 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: KevinDavis

I will keep my Diesel Dodge Dually.


10 posted on 06/20/2011 6:43:54 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: KevinDavis

And let’s not forget, we are ALL PAYING for the “magnificent” Chevy Volt — all 300 of them that have sold or whatever.....


11 posted on 06/20/2011 6:44:31 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (American Thinker Columnist / Rush ghost contributor)
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To: KevinDavis

Yes, the Japanese is run on s**t. No it’s the new meat I’m thinking of. My bad.


12 posted on 06/20/2011 6:45:20 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (VOTE out the RATS! Go Sarah!)
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To: muawiyah

I demand a vehicle that can do all the tasks that I might reasonably expect to have to do to keep my family safe and healthy.

There is no non-commercial duty japanese vehicle that can do that.


13 posted on 06/20/2011 6:46:14 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: Cicero

I’m with you. I have a 2000 Outback (bought in 2002). When my daughter gets her license, I’ll eventually pass that on to her...and hope for a 2010 or 2011 Ourback coming off lease. I really like the new models.


14 posted on 06/20/2011 6:46:34 PM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: KevinDavis

Every “American” car that I like is made in Mexico. The “foreign” cars that I like are actually made in places like Kentucky, South Carolina, California, and Ohio. Go figure.


15 posted on 06/20/2011 6:46:34 PM PDT by festusbanjo (We need more leaders running the country and fewer politicians ruining the country.)
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To: KevinDavis

The USA is in decline because many Americans cut their nose off to spite their face and have forgotten that it is in all of our interests to put the economic interests of our fellow countrymen first, before the Asians or any others.

Locale and country have much more to do with purchasing decisions, not ideology. I make it a priority to buy products made or grown by Americans, just as I also put buying from local businesses in my jurisdiction a priority. In the end it helps me and my neighbors.


16 posted on 06/20/2011 6:46:42 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

The genuine “Electric Lavanna.”


17 posted on 06/20/2011 6:48:03 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: KevinDavis
BMW, Mercedes, VW, etc, any of which is better than a government motors.
18 posted on 06/20/2011 6:48:57 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: KevinDavis

I’ll keep my Shelby GT500, thank you very much.


19 posted on 06/20/2011 6:49:43 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Hmm?~! And you imagine there is a vehicle that does meet all those requirements?

You might check with John Edwards on that. He'd figured out that the best vehicle to get was a Jeep Cherokee. He gave his kid the keys and he drove off to his death.

20 posted on 06/20/2011 6:52:01 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: festusbanjo

I agree. American sounding names are not necessarily US companies. I look and examine where products are produced, not based upon their name. Ford has many cars made in Mexico. There are few so called US corporations left. Most are out there to make a buck and a provide multi million dollar CEO bonus anywhere they can find it.


21 posted on 06/20/2011 6:52:39 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: KevinDavis
There is a difference between drivers who believe changing motor oil is a suggestion or a necessity. ;< )
22 posted on 06/20/2011 6:53:06 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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To: muawiyah

I have three of them.


23 posted on 06/20/2011 6:53:06 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: KevinDavis

GM kind of queered the deal for me with their diesels. Ford showed me what they could do with a 1967 Falcon with some unique properties. One of them was that the headliner would collapse when one was going about 70 mph obscuring your vision. I don’t even remember the Chrysler model, but I didn’t get it off the lot.

My first Honda Civic lasted for 358,000+ miles before the head gasket failed. Since then it has been Japanese cars all the way. My 1995 Acura has 258,000+ miles on it. I hope to get to 350,000 before it rusts away.


24 posted on 06/20/2011 6:54:18 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: KevinDavis
I can't tell you how much I love my Nissan Titan. My husband still drives his 96 Nissan 4X4 pickup, but we are looking to replace it with a Honda Ridgeline in the next few months. We need something that he can still haul firewood with and yet fits two car seats. The only reason we're replacing it is because of the car seat thing. If we weren't expecting, hubby says he'd get another 15 years out of it easily!
25 posted on 06/20/2011 6:54:32 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Yes you need to stick to the gm blazer.


26 posted on 06/20/2011 6:55:37 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: RC one

For the price of a Corvette, you could have bought a sports car.


27 posted on 06/20/2011 6:56:26 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: KevinDavis

My Honda Civic does quite well. Well priced and apportioned, gets great mileage and has a terrific resale value. I have never had any “big three” vehicle that held value worth squat, and some were downright lemons.

Were I to buy a big three auto, it would be a truck. F-150.


28 posted on 06/20/2011 6:56:26 PM PDT by Horusra (The Democrat party is now the National Socialist party (nationalize the banks, socialize healthcare))
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To: KevinDavis

My ‘97 Jeep Cherokee will keep getting new brakes, suspension, belts, tires, hoses and any other necessary parts until it falls into dust. Even if I end up putting 2 or 3K some years into it, that is preferable to spending money for a new vehicle.


29 posted on 06/20/2011 6:56:54 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: editor-surveyor

I ADORE My 04 Grand Cherokee. 124,000 miles and still going strong. Just added a 2” lift and Bilstein shocks, too.


30 posted on 06/20/2011 6:56:54 PM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: KevinDavis

Interesting how GM had to shutdown some line because parts weren’t coming into the US from Japan after the earthquake/tsunami. One wonders.


31 posted on 06/20/2011 6:56:59 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know they invented wheelbarrows to teach FAA inspectors to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: editor-surveyor

I’ve become quite a fan of Ford & Lincoln.


32 posted on 06/20/2011 6:57:01 PM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: KevinDavis
The legendary Bob Lutz was an outspoken automotive industry mover and shaker, so his book "Car Guys versus Bean Counters" (Portfolio Penguin, $26.95) promises to be the place where he unloads much angst. Lutz doesn't disappoint.

Lutz said the American auto industry's plunge into bankruptcy was more down to tunnel vision from business school graduates than union greed. He beats on the media for favoring foreign cars over domestic ones and politicians for not having the guts to introduce a European style gas tax, and he lauds Volkswagen's leader Ferdinand Piech for his tough but successful management style.

Lutz is also justly proud of perhaps his last big decision before he ended his career at GM - forcing the revolutionary Chevrolet Volt past the doubters.

From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110614/OPINION03/106140318/Lutz-says-business-theorists-hurt-auto-industry-more-than-UAW#ixzz1Ps2dT56F

33 posted on 06/20/2011 6:57:50 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

My first Ford Ranger PU went about 350,000 before losing its head gasket, the first internal repair of the engine, and I gave it to my son in law who drove it another 100,000 or so before selling it to his neighbor, who is still happily driving it.


34 posted on 06/20/2011 6:58:14 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: apoliticalone
Locale and country have much more to do with purchasing decisions, not ideology. I make it a priority to buy products made or grown by Americans, just as I also put buying from local businesses in my jurisdiction a priority. In the end it helps me and my neighbors.

Geography is not everything. There is nothing less American than nationalizing GM and Chrysler, violating existing (centuries old but still the law of the land and the expectation of those who were robbed) bankruptcy/contract/common law. There is nothing less American than stealing from the bondholders, the rightful claimants on the GM/Chrysler assets to give the loot to politically connected Dem donors including the UAW. I am pro-America, far more so than those who support the bailout, and I will never again buy any GM/Chrysler product. Those companies are dead to me. I have no problem with buying Ford, VW, Toyota, Honda, Kia, or any other brand unaffiliated with the criminal operations in Detroit, but I am boycotting GM forever in favor of more American companies - like Subaru.

35 posted on 06/20/2011 6:58:14 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Williams

Ford does the job, more so than any other manufacturer, in the long run.


36 posted on 06/20/2011 7:00:17 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: Pollster1

I’m with you 100% on this. I proudly have an American made Hyundai and a pre bail out Suburban. Will be my last Suburban.


37 posted on 06/20/2011 7:00:54 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (American Thinker Columnist / Rush ghost contributor)
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To: spodefly

If you can break or wear out a 4.0 you should be ashamed of yourself.


38 posted on 06/20/2011 7:01:38 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Pollster1

That’s well-said, and that’s where I am too, having spent my entire life a Chrysler Corp buyer; I’d never look at another one. Ford? Still UAW and Obama thugs.


39 posted on 06/20/2011 7:03:53 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: C. Edmund Wright
I’m with you 100% on this. I proudly have an American made Hyundai and a pre bail out Suburban. Will be my last Suburban.

I keep cars until they are dead, so I haven't had many even in my many years, but I have had two GM vehicles. As you said, never again.

40 posted on 06/20/2011 7:04:10 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: SueRae

I love my Forester. It has almost 250,000 miles. I hope to get many more before I have to trade.


41 posted on 06/20/2011 7:04:36 PM PDT by Library Lady
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To: gusopol3
Ford? Still UAW and Obama thugs.

Ford is a different issue because they did not take the bailout. I see boycotting GM/Chrysler forever as a moral imperative, while boycotting Ford is an optional political decision that I completely understand.

42 posted on 06/20/2011 7:06:12 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: CrazyIvan

Exactly. The straight 6-4.0/4.2 design is proven, with tons of aftermarket parts available. Just feed it fresh oil every 4 to 6k miles. I added a K&N washable air filter and 2” pipe, and get 23-25 mpg on the highway. The drive train is decent in the 90’s and early 2000’s vehicles, the bodywork is great, interior well done ... its a vehicle that, if you don’t trash it off-road, will easily do 200-250k miles before needing anything even resembling serious work.


43 posted on 06/20/2011 7:08:29 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: SVTCobra03
I’ll keep my Shelby GT500, thank you very much.

Very nice ride. Heck of a car.

Other than trucks and whatnot for hauling my go fast boats and other toys I've been going German recently. AMG Mercedes and 911. I recently drove a buddies GT500 and found it to be an awesome vehicle. He has something else called an Ariel Atom. That thing is insane!

44 posted on 06/20/2011 7:10:07 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: gusopol3
The legendary Bob Lutz was an outspoken automotive industry mover and shaker, so his book "Car Guys versus Bean Counters"...

The summary demonstrates that Lutz wasn't much of a "car guy".

"Car guys" don't count on political correctness and European-style gas taxes to sell their cars.

Lutz is a fraud.

45 posted on 06/20/2011 7:11:21 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Pollster1

Actually GM and Chrysler bailouts were chickenfeed compared to the banks such as CitiCorp and Goldman and Wall St and AIG? They should have all been sent into bankruptcy where the shareholders lost all their wealth like GM, but instead were and are still being handed US taxpayer obligations by the trainloads without producing anything of tangible value for the USA.

I didn’t support any bailout but the banks should have been knee capped, bankrupted and recapitalized by Govt. and then sold off and proceeds returned to taxpayers instead of going to banksters and their management.


46 posted on 06/20/2011 7:12:06 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: KevinDavis
LINK

47 posted on 06/20/2011 7:16:49 PM PDT by freejohn
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To: C. Edmund Wright
And let’s not forget, we are ALL PAYING for the “magnificent” Chevy Volt — all 300 of them that have sold or whatever.....

You mean the 300 that was sold from one dealership to another. < /s>

48 posted on 06/20/2011 7:17:13 PM PDT by ReformedBeckite ( 1 of 3 I'm only allowing my self each day)
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To: apoliticalone
Actually GM and Chrysler bailouts were chickenfeed compared to the banks such as CitiCorp and Goldman and Wall St and AIG?

I'm with you on that. I also closed my Citi and B of A accounts and no longer accept checks drawn on those banks. I take corruption seriously and do not deal with crooks. Still, the discussion was cars, so I stuck to that sector of modern liberal corruption.

49 posted on 06/20/2011 7:18:38 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: KevinDavis

Auto union, ugh! I rather drive a Boeing.


50 posted on 06/20/2011 7:19:57 PM PDT by chuckee
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