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Existing home sales drop 3.8% (Obama's booming economy! /sarc)
cnn ^ | 6/21/2011 | Ben Rooney

Posted on 06/21/2011 8:42:26 AM PDT by tobyhill

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1 posted on 06/21/2011 8:42:32 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Recovery summer redux.


2 posted on 06/21/2011 8:44:13 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: tobyhill

severe weather affects home sales enough to make a difference?

only when Democrat is POTUS lol


3 posted on 06/21/2011 8:46:07 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

If severe weather was really an issue then home sales should have actually increased.


4 posted on 06/21/2011 8:48:19 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Nice way to start off recovery summer 2011


5 posted on 06/21/2011 8:49:01 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (From her lips to the voters' ears: Debbie Wasserman Schultz: "We own the economy" June 15, 2011)
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To: tobyhill
Economists had expected

Is / Are 'had expected' the new buzz word(s) for 'unexpected'?

6 posted on 06/21/2011 8:50:57 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Nachum

this is costing jobs that are related to the market.


7 posted on 06/21/2011 8:51:20 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Ann Coulter's "Demonic" - - Identifies the Democrats in Detail)
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To: tobyhill

“along with widespread severe weather hurt house shopping in April”

.................................lol


8 posted on 06/21/2011 8:51:42 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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To: NonValueAdded

I forgot, it is the first day of Summer.


9 posted on 06/21/2011 8:51:51 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

10 posted on 06/21/2011 8:52:07 AM PDT by frankenMonkey (Because he was the son you bore, And gave to that wind blowing and that tide!)
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To: tobyhill

I tell you, I do not know how much more of this Obama “recovery” the construction industry can afford!


11 posted on 06/21/2011 8:54:14 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: nascarnation; tobyhill
severe weather affects home sales enough to make a difference?

Not only that but this data is for EXISTING home sales.

The drive-by media actually wants us to believe this sort of conversation takes place:

HUSBAND: "Hey sweetie, want to go out and look at some potential homes tonight?

WIFE: "Are you freaking serious, babe? It's raining outside. No way!"

12 posted on 06/21/2011 8:54:14 AM PDT by library user (Just because you're homeless doesn't mean you're lazy.)
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To: library user
HUSBAND: “But sweetie, our old home just got blown away by the tornado. Don't you think we need another one?”

WIFE: “No, you stupid ass, you need another home because I'm moving in with Anthony Weiner”

13 posted on 06/21/2011 8:59:56 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: Loud Mime

Indeed. The housing industry is one of the leading indicators and employers. If the housing market is sick, the whole country is.


14 posted on 06/21/2011 9:01:05 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: tobyhill

SUMMER OF WRECKOVERY!!!
All hail the messiah!


15 posted on 06/21/2011 9:01:19 AM PDT by tcrlaf (You can only lead a lib to the Truth, you can't make it think...)
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To: tobyhill

“Unexpected”


16 posted on 06/21/2011 9:05:21 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: tobyhill

Sure, when the price of gas goes lower, everyone will start buying houses. The fact that so many are unemployed, underemployed or have no job security has nothing to do with the crashing housing market. A 5 letter word comes to mine: IDIOTS!


17 posted on 06/21/2011 9:15:20 AM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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To: tobyhill

Considering all the wreckage and ruin caused by the severe weather of April and May, I assume housing starts will balloon shortly.......waiting.......waiting......


18 posted on 06/21/2011 9:16:08 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Loud Mime

“...this is costing jobs that are related to the market.”

Getting people to part with their heard-earned dollars to buy trees and shrubs and perennial plants this season has been like pulling TEETH! I have had exactly TWO large landscaper contracts this season. Two. Pathetic!

Thanks again, 0bama, Pelosi, et al. You know - the ‘Rats that have been in charge of the economy since 2006? Grrr! Hurry 2013! I’m hangin’ by a thread, here!


19 posted on 06/21/2011 9:16:42 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: nascarnation; All
If your income situation is such that you're worried about gas prices you aren't going to be able to qualify for a mortgage in this market anyway.

Oh, I see, they can't afford the price of gas to drive around and look at these existing homes! /s

20 posted on 06/21/2011 9:16:52 AM PDT by newzjunkey (49% of CA registered voters would reelect Obama? I need out of this state.)
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To: nascarnation

It sounds ridiculous, but there’s something to it. We’re trying to sell, before our fourth baby gets here totally outgrown our house....ANYWAY, things were dead this spring, and since the sun has come out, it’s been non stop showings for us, six out of the last seven days.

Our agent says things picked up countrywide, and his theory was the weather.


21 posted on 06/21/2011 9:22:09 AM PDT by mockingbyrd
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To: tobyhill

“Obama’s Booming Economy (Sarc)”

The good stuff belongs to Obama, the bad stuff is
George Bush’s fault.

/Sarc/


22 posted on 06/21/2011 9:26:13 AM PDT by ripley
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To: ExTxMarine

“I do not know how much more of this Obama
“recovery” the construction industry can afford!”

Look into my eyes and repeat after me: “Obama is brilliant, Obama is brilliant, Obama is brilliant, Everything is George Bush’s fault, Everything is George Bush’s fault, Everything is George Bush’s fault.....

Repeat until the 2012 elections and call us on
the morning following the election.

Regards


23 posted on 06/21/2011 9:31:10 AM PDT by ripley
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To: tobyhill

How does high gas prices prevent home sales? The realtors can’t fill up their cars?


24 posted on 06/21/2011 9:32:45 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: markomalley

The sales numbers were ever-so-slightly better than expected, so the stock market is soaring on the “good news”.

Ridiculous.


25 posted on 06/21/2011 9:39:20 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Was this “unexpected?”


26 posted on 06/21/2011 9:41:27 AM PDT by RU88 (Bow to no man)
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To: LuvFreeRepublic

“The fact that so many are unemployed, underemployed or have no job security has nothing to do with the crashing housing market.”

Bingo. The fact that housing prices have been artifically manipulated into their sky high dollar amounts, that are realistically unaffordable, is an even bigger issue. This bubble has been nearly two decades in the making. With the $1 Billion dollar “Homeowner Bailout” (EHLP), the Obama administration is going to ensure that only those it wants to own a home can afford one.

Housing prices will drop another 50% unless snapped up by foreigners. The (average) housing prices today are unsustainable to the (average) U.S. family. Adjusted for inflation, for well over an hundred years, the average price of a single family dwelling was $100K (Except for about 2 years, following the depression, where manufacturing of housing was optimized, then the inflation adjusted price was about 65-70K).

When people get it through their heads that houses depreciate over time unless their money is losing it’s value faster, and realize that an oversupply of aging structures should, has, and will continue to fall, it will stop coming as a surprise.

The U.S. has NEVER had a populace that could afford the housing prices of the last few years, or even today. The unprecedented and extreme rise in housing over the last 2 decades was all based on cheap credit, governmental forced loans, and in many cases municipal manipulation (higher appraisal for tax assessment).

No one should be surprised that as 85% )IIRC) of new graduates are returning home, extended families are moving in together, and the overall job and economic outlook is plummeting, that the price of houses will fall for a decade or more (if there’s no sudden crash in the meantime).

Obama isn’t the cause of the housing correction, but he sure is going to do all in his power to make it worse, and use it to his advantage to decide who ultimately can and cannot own a home. He’s a politician, that’s what they do.


27 posted on 06/21/2011 9:46:48 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: ExTxMarine

Obama isn’t the cause of the housing bubble correction, but he will make it worse to everyone involved (except to the elitists that he favors, that is). The democrats, however, are the driving force behind the bubble in the first place, and this rests squarely on their shoulders, as well as many republican facilitators (although some, like with the Fannie/Freddie whistleblowing, have been trying to correct the problem—or at least call attention to it). This (the correction) has been decades in the making, it was well into motion when Bush was leaving office.

(And some of us saw it in the early 2000’s.)


28 posted on 06/21/2011 9:51:04 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: tobyhill

Yeah...it’s the weather. There’s a major freakin’ storm comin’.


29 posted on 06/21/2011 9:58:50 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: RU88

Of course.


30 posted on 06/21/2011 9:59:21 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: tobyhill

3.8% housing drop during a Democrat presidency:
Sales of existing homes fell in May, as severe weather and high gas prices weighed on the shaky housing market.

3.8% housing drop during a Republican presidency:
Sales of existing homes fell in May, as plans laid endorsed by the Bush administration fail to meet expectations.


31 posted on 06/21/2011 10:28:30 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (if there were a little more of me around we'd all be better off.)
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To: mockingbyrd

I know—but in my case—I bought last spring—every single day I went out to look at houses it was pouring down rain; it couldn’t be helped; I went out when I was available and when my Realtor was available, and also every single Sat and Sun regardless of weather. I looked at 80+ houses in a 30 mile wide area.

I had a deadline in mind, though—school starting in the fall, and getting my kids registered ASAP so they wouldn’t be sent to a non-neighborhood “overflow” school in the district. So I looked all that rainy spring and closed escrow at the very beginning of summer. I was a serious buyer though.

At least I could see how the downspouts were working.

I guess a lot of buyers are more casual, and weather might make a big difference in when they feel like looking at houses. Funny to me though.


32 posted on 06/21/2011 10:47:47 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: tobyhill

And, surprise, surprise, it keeps getting better! 0bama’s going to go down in history and it isn’t going to be positive. He and his Demonrat party have brought down the United States. A case study just like the Roman Empire.


33 posted on 06/21/2011 10:57:03 AM PDT by mrspeelwerneeded (Palin 2012)
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To: tobyhill

Severe weather?? CNN is really scaping the bottom of the “Let’s Cover Obama’s Butt....(again)” barrel.


34 posted on 06/21/2011 11:26:34 AM PDT by prairiebreeze
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To: mockingbyrd

“ANYWAY, things were dead this spring, and since the sun has come out, it’s been non stop showings for us, six out of the last seven days.”

Not much of an issue here in Phoenix where it’s sunny 99.9% of the time - but the housing market continues to suffer.


35 posted on 06/21/2011 1:17:01 PM PDT by Magic Fingers
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To: tobyhill

Recovery summer II!


36 posted on 06/21/2011 1:44:23 PM PDT by therightliveswithus
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To: therightliveswithus
They probably will blame it on the Joplin and Alabama losses.

"The climate change that tore through Missouri and Alabama has skewed the housing numbers. Those were potential existing home sales completely flattened by climate change."

37 posted on 06/21/2011 2:21:54 PM PDT by mikhailovich
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To: library user

I remember when they blamed high unemployment numbers on ths snow storms.


38 posted on 06/21/2011 3:16:32 PM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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To: tobyhill

I don’t know if anybody remembers, but it was the first gas shock off that led to the first recession of the double dipper we’re in right now.

Yes, I said it, haven’t heard any talk about it on the news (of course I don’t watch TV) but I say we’re already in Round 2. It takes a few months for the statistics to catch up.

RECESSION II: THE NIGHT *HE* CAME BACK


39 posted on 06/21/2011 3:54:34 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: tobyhill

Surprisingly, enexpectedly ad nauseum.

My son’s mother-in-law is a life time lefty. She’s now VP in a small town bank. We were having dinner with her last week and she said, with due gravity and seriousness, that the economy was finally turning around. You know what her specialty is? Mortgages! Yep, that’s right. These people have lost, if they ever had it, the ability to comprehend reality. They are hard wired into the endlessly repeated demrat talking points. To the extent that what is happening right in front of them does not even register in their brain.

Naturally, I kept my mouth shut for my son’s sake.


40 posted on 06/21/2011 3:57:11 PM PDT by dools0007world
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To: Personal Responsibility

Here was a good one they said about Bush: “The DOW today crashed... through the 14000 barrier.”

I swear I heard that on the news. I bet they thought they were real cute in dressing that one up in black crepe.


41 posted on 06/21/2011 4:05:15 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: JDW11235

Here in NJ, the housing prices aren’t the problem; the property taxes are. Potential buyers don’t like the idea of paying $15K in property taxes alone if they bought the house for cash tomorrow. Those of us who bought here have to suck it up; those who didn’t, won’t. As jobs flee to lower-tax environments, those who own homes are stuck with them, while those who are able follow the jobs.

FWIW, the same dynamic will explain why so few people in their early twenties now will ever have children later; they know the rug can be pulled out from under their feet at any time (as is happening everywhere now), and they don’t intend to be in the same position as us older folks.


42 posted on 06/21/2011 4:42:36 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: tobyhill

Damned global warming has absolutely devastated the used housing market.


43 posted on 06/21/2011 4:57:51 PM PDT by upchuck (Think you know hardship? Ha! Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: Deo volente
If this gambit worked well, then we can expect a steady flow of "better than expected" data of all sorts emanating from the Ministry of Truth.

I remember the dotcom bubble, when every no-name startup would issue quarterly reports that "beat expectations by a penny." The suckers would buy, the stock would go up, and the burn rate continued.

44 posted on 06/21/2011 5:32:04 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: tobyhill

For goodness sake its laughable how these guys numbers are always not even remotely accurate.


45 posted on 06/21/2011 5:44:42 PM PDT by eak3
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To: JDW11235

“When people get it through their heads that houses depreciate over time unless their money is losing it’s value faster,”
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Got into a big argument with a realtor lady once, she was ranting about how stupid it was to buy a mobile home because they don’t appreciate like a site built house. I told her there was no such thing as appreciation in a site built house, it depreciates too although maybe a little more slowly than a mobile home. She thought I was nuts until I laid out my case and then she agreed with me.


46 posted on 06/21/2011 5:46:13 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: dools0007world

I think there is a word for this but I can’t recall it. Sometimes people have so much invested in a wrong belief that they simply cannot bear to even consider the possibility that they might be wrong. Liberalism really is a mental disease, it requires a person to completely deny reality. Their worldview has become a religion, not to be questioned. They will still be ranting about global warming, for instance, when the whole world is frozen...and it will be Bush’s fault.


47 posted on 06/21/2011 5:54:22 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: tobyhill

Saw a sign next to the freeway - billboard it was.

Something about “Recessions: They come to an end”.

Yeah, this one will come to an end alright.

1930’s all over again.


48 posted on 06/21/2011 6:34:18 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: kearnyirish2

You bring up some very pertinent and valid points. A big, big problem in the U.S. right now is that people have forgotten what it means to own property. Years ago, it was one’s own castle, or spot on earth. That was the value, not some “spin the wheel of house flipping and see if we get rich” scam that it is of late. As such, few care about their communities enough to build them up, resulting in a transient society.

I feel for those who are upside down, because they may not have known what was coming, although all the signs were there. My father’s late father’s rule (he’d be nearly 100 now and the rule was once a common adage) of thumb, was that anything over double one’s gross salary, is more than someone can afford a mortgage on. For over 100 years, that has held true (the most comprehensive study was a 116 year period from 1890 to 2006). Only in very recent years have existing homes been so high in price (and rising until the late 2000’s) that they were unaffordable in price to the common man, but manipulated through currency manipulation and easy credit.

I hope it was unintended, but whether or not, a big consequence to that bubble is the bankrupting of those in the middle class who were unfortunate enough to not see the signs. My parents, thankfully did in about 2003 and got out of the city while the getting was good. I feel bad for the innocent caught up in the fray, but pray they’ll teach their children that the biblical proverb is still true that truly the borrower is servant to the lender.

And as an end note, property taxes have got to go before we become even more of a fuedal system than we already are becoming.


49 posted on 06/21/2011 7:38:46 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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50 posted on 06/21/2011 7:44:33 PM PDT by GR_Jr.
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