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The Rise of Uncompassionate Conservatism
National Review ^ | 6/21/2011 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 06/21/2011 9:23:31 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross

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To: SoothingDave
If Rick Perry thinks the 10th Amendment is going to have cachet with voters worried about their jobs, their wages, and the value of their homes, he’s been spending too much time at Federalist Society seminars.

To me, the implication of this statement is that freedom will not appeal to voters with concerns about economic security. They will want the government to guarantee that everything will be all right.

As my original phrasing "... seems to think ..." indicated, it is possible this is not what Mr. Lowry intended to convey.

51 posted on 06/21/2011 11:55:31 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Quien vive? JESUS! Y a su nombre? GLORIA!)
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Pelosi's NET income went up by 62% last year ... someone document how much of that she donated to charity and we'll talk 'uncompassionate' or 'incompassionate' Conservatives.

Until such time ...

52 posted on 06/21/2011 12:07:00 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (I am a Catholic, A US Citizen, A Patriot, A TEA Partier, An Oath Keeper, A Voter, An Auburn Fan!)
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To: SoothingDave

“You don’t convert the middle by preaching doctrine... You lead by example and lead people to make the conclusions that make sense. You don’t go preaching the 10th Amendment... Preach that the EPA is killing the economy. Make it real. Use concrete illustrations. Then give it a doctrine name, if you have to.”

—I agree with some of your points, but I think you’re forgetting the flip-side to the 10th Amendment. Under a pure 10th Amendment view, states are allowed to experiment with the powers reserved to them (and not expressly given to the Federal government, etc.); if that means that a blue state wants to enact gay marriage or whatever social-related policies through its police powers, then under this view it has that right. If one believes the poll numbers that support for such policies is around 50/50 or so, then it why wouldn’t moderates support such a 10th perspective (once it was properly explained to them)?


53 posted on 06/21/2011 12:20:59 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Christian Conservatives are the most compassionate people on earth, as a group.

They give far more than any other groups, money wise and time-wise.

And since they believe charity is both a voluntary and personal matter, not something measured by how much government forciby demands from one set of people it thinks has too much, and redistributes to those pet groups it believes ought to have it, well then, yes, I guess if that’s the definition of ‘compassion’, you can see where such a warped headline the lewinsky media comes up with.


54 posted on 06/21/2011 12:40:31 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Servant of the Cross; sickoflibs
Yes, Rich is a RINO. But he's being prescient here:
...As the press clues into the new anti-Bush drift of the GOP, we can expect a revival in Bush’s reputation. He will be portrayed as more reasonable, more internationalist, and altogether more statesmanlike than his benighted compatriots. If only it were still the party of George W. Bush will be the lament. And it will make the party even more glad that it’s not.
If we're fortunate enough to choose a solid conservative as our primary candidate, expect the lamestream media to begin touting the virtues of Duhbya.
55 posted on 06/21/2011 1:23:04 PM PDT by BufordP ("Drink me if you can't take a joke." -- Kool-aid)
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To: Tax-chick
To me, the implication of this statement is that freedom will not appeal to voters with concerns about economic security. They will want the government to guarantee that everything will be all right. As my original phrasing "... seems to think ..." indicated, it is possible this is not what Mr. Lowry intended to convey.

Thanks for the thoughtful answer. I didn't read it that way. Especially when this follow on later in the article:

Even as he preaches the old-time religion, Perry in his proto–stump speech returns again and again to a highly practical theme: his success in fostering a pro-jobs environment in Texas.

Like I said, people don't want to be lectured about the 10th Amendment, they want solutions for their economic problems. These solutions do not have to be anti-10th Amendment, mind you, but normal people do not respond to academic arguments.

56 posted on 06/21/2011 1:35:06 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Qbert
Under a pure 10th Amendment view, states are allowed to experiment with the powers reserved to them (and not expressly given to the Federal government, etc.); if that means that a blue state wants to enact gay marriage or whatever social-related policies through its police powers, then under this view it has that right. If one believes the poll numbers that support for such policies is around 50/50 or so, then it why wouldn’t moderates support such a 10th perspective (once it was properly explained to them)?

I think the case can certainly be made. My point was that normal, everyday people want to hear about normal everyday things. You can use these to teach principles, like the 10th amendment. But you don't attract a large following just by preaching to the choir.

Ever heard that the best way to learn something is when you are so into it that you don't realize you're learning?

57 posted on 06/21/2011 1:37:53 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Servant of the Cross

Good luck with that. Preaching to the choir doesn’t win elections. You need to broaden your appeal by appealing to normal people.

That’s not to say give up your principles. Don’t get confused. It means talk about real world things letting your principles animate your words. Don’t just preach the doctrines or regard them as a panacea.

If the American people understood or demanded a 10th amendment style gov’t they would have one. We have to lead by example to get there.


58 posted on 06/21/2011 1:41:04 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Servant of the Cross

Rick Perry talks a good game, but he governs like a RINO.


59 posted on 06/21/2011 1:46:03 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: SoothingDave

“Ever heard that the best way to learn something is when you are so into it that you don’t realize you’re learning?”

I think a lot of people are currently learning how much they hate Obamanomics.


60 posted on 06/21/2011 2:46:34 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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