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Editorial: Who OK'd 'Guns To Gangs' Program, And Why?
IBD Editorials ^ | June 21, 2011 | Staff

Posted on 06/21/2011 5:20:25 PM PDT by Kaslin

Law: After getting caught doing the unbelievable — arming Mexico's cartels — word is the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms boss is out, and the gun-controller the White House wanted all along is in. How far up does this go?

Acting ATF director Kenneth Melson is apparently ready to take the fall for what may be the most morally repulsive scandal to befall the Obama administration so far.

Our neighbor Mexico lies bleeding from a long, vicious war to fight seven major drug cartels at once. Some 38,000 have been left dead since 2006.

Amid all this, U.S. ATF agents had orders from on high to supply U.S. weapons to cartel middlemen buying them on U.S. soil for the odd purpose of "tracing" them.

The news that Melson is resigning seems to be a bid by the Obama administration to paint this as simply an example of Keystone Kop-style bungling being corrected.

But many things suggest the operation may have been done for political purposes, and not merely stupidity.

The idea behind "Operation Fast and Furious" was to let gun dealers sell weapons to cartel middlemen, who would then ship them to criminal gangs in Mexico, and damn the consequences.

The operation was so contrary to the goals of ATF that its agents repeatedly raised anguished protests — only to be rebuffed from their superiors, according to testimony presented to House Oversight Committee chair Darrell Issa, R-Calif., who is investigating the scandal.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: atf; cartels; fastandfurious; gungrab; guns; gunwalker; lawmen; mexico; scandal

1 posted on 06/21/2011 5:20:29 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Major Republican silence.
2 posted on 06/21/2011 5:23:58 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: Kaslin

If Kenneth Melson takes the rap for Obama on this he is a damned fool.

In fact if they trace this to Melson, his retirement should be in Fort Leavenworth. Maybe that would make him talk.

I would bet big time that this goes right to the top.

Obama== perhaps through Eric Holder. Working under the radar, His own words convict him.


3 posted on 06/21/2011 5:24:29 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Kaslin

Using laguage style as a guide: ‘Fast and Furious’ sounds more like ‘Shock and Awe’ than a ‘Kinetic Military Action’.


4 posted on 06/21/2011 5:27:23 PM PDT by MissMack99 (BO Stinks!)
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To: Navy Patriot

I think it is another stupid lib anti-gun PR scam gone South.


5 posted on 06/21/2011 5:27:53 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: Kaslin

Well, they got to “trace” them. A couple ended up at the scene where an officer of a rival US Government agency was shot to death. Looks like he was hit with bullets from one of the Gunwalker weapons.

That’s a pretty solid “trace,” huh guys? Turned up some pretty “interesting” information there, didn’t ya?

Buncha geniuses in the ATF, that’s for sure. They’ve got a long track record of cleverness.


6 posted on 06/21/2011 5:29:09 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Kaslin
The miserable bastards at the top authorized the program and are now running like rats down the nearest hole. Shame on them.

What we need is a hard-charging prosecutor to take them to task (Zero, Holder, Hillary, Janet, etc.). They all knew about this deal.

7 posted on 06/21/2011 5:35:58 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: Kaslin
"Who OK'd 'Guns To Gangs' Program, And Why?"

Uhhh . . . let me think.

8 posted on 06/21/2011 5:36:06 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: Kaslin

One former LEO commentor on another site pointed out that this didn’t pass the sniff test.

There was no way ATF could track the guns inside Mexico or make any arrests there.

The Mexican authorities were kept completely in the dark.

Issa had damn well better sink his teeth into this and hold on like a pitbull. This is going to be Obama’s Iran-Contra scandal if the cards are played right.

The alt-media needs to keep hammering at this day and night. Like WaterGate, it’ll start slow but it has the potential to snowball big time. There’s just no way this could have been a legit law-enforcement operation.


9 posted on 06/21/2011 5:36:36 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: Kaslin

I think,

Fast and Furious deals being cut at this moment.

Lives and careers being negotiated as we post.


10 posted on 06/21/2011 5:54:26 PM PDT by davetex (All my weapons got melted by a meteor!! No Sh*t)
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To: Kaslin
You'll never convince me that this plan wasn't hatched in the White House.

It coincides nicely with a deluge of propaganda and spun statistics originating at high levels.

They needed a crisis to exploit and they got busy and created one.

11 posted on 06/21/2011 6:07:34 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Kaslin

Good God! Just think how much more killing might have gone
on had Sara Palin put a bullseye on Mexico!


12 posted on 06/21/2011 6:09:56 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Steely Tom
Gotta agree with ya ST, makes ya wonder how many of the 21,000 PLUS gun laws on the books were concocted by those gun grabbin %#*^!#@^*(%)'s
13 posted on 06/21/2011 6:11:56 PM PDT by progunner (no compromise)
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To: Kaslin

BATF appears guilty of abetting terrorism. State-sponsored, no less.


14 posted on 06/21/2011 6:16:19 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Kaslin

US law enforcement with Obama as the chief executive has been caught red handed covertly and illegally supplying massive amounts of weapons to Mexican drug cartels, with said weapons linked to perhaps hundreds or more homicides. We may never know the full damage done. Their current cover story is some ridiculous notion about “tracking” the weapons. while only lying, obfuscation, story changing, shrugs, and denials have been forthcoming under direct examination by Issa. All of this on a media backdrop for months about gun-show loopholes, and stricter laws regarding legal ownership. Doesn’t get more sinister.


15 posted on 06/21/2011 6:16:49 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

It would not surprise me one bit, if it was


16 posted on 06/21/2011 6:17:05 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.

New ATF/DOJ policy being put into action.........Well done bastards!

17 posted on 06/21/2011 6:18:13 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: sinanju
Like WaterGate, it’ll start slow but it has the potential to snowball big time

Much to be hoped for - but contra that strong hope is the fact that the most powerful - strike that, the highest ranking pubbie who should have been leading the charge by NOW wears pink neckties, weeps frequently and goes on golfing dates with the First Mickey from Nairobi, that is, the perp. And on the Senate side, where are the so-called conservatives - all five of them - who should be screaming for the lying punkster Eric coatHolder's head on a pike, for openers. Of course there is no way flunkies like Melson and coatHolder set this unconscionable, unspeakably evil criminal conspiracy in motion except by the direct order of the Kenyan entity. Neither of those good little Germans has the nerve to have done so. If this crime does not lead to the Mickey's resignation or else impeachment - then God help us all.

18 posted on 06/21/2011 6:21:11 PM PDT by Bedford Forrest (Roger, Contact, Judy, Out. Fox One. Splash one.<I>)
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To: Kaslin
There are just too many things that fit together for it to be anything else. As a law enforcement action it makes no sense at all, things only add up to political conniving.
19 posted on 06/21/2011 6:23:26 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Kaslin

Prior to the lid being lifted on this travesty, Rodham Rodham Rodham made a big deal about American weapons being used in Mexico in one of her unbearable speeches. The op was probably a set-up so she and others could indict the 2nd amendment blah blah blah. So, it works like this:

Rodham et. al. gives the OK to sell guns into the cartels and then indicts America/the 2nd amendment when they are subsequently used to kill.

Next thing you know she’ll just shoot someone herself, and then blame it on America, George Washington, men, you name it. CodePink will support her and the queers will poor glitter on somebody or other.


20 posted on 06/21/2011 6:26:31 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Steely Tom; progunner
That’s a pretty solid “trace,” huh guys? Turned up some pretty “interesting” information there, didn’t ya?

What's more outrageous is that several ATF agents sounded the alarm about law enforcement and civilians being slaughtered with these weapons.....their superiors said "you have to break a few eggs to make an omlet."

That is straight from ATF testimony!

21 posted on 06/21/2011 6:29:07 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Kaslin

This is a Second Amendment issue - foreign gangs have a right to bear arms provided by the US government.

/sarc


22 posted on 06/21/2011 6:50:03 PM PDT by impimp
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To: Kaslin

Too late to lure Mr. Melson to a park.....So the President’s stooges need to use something they appear to have little of, tact. I suspect it won’t take much to drive Melson into Rep. Issa’s office seeking a plea deal that’ll let him keep his pension and walk.

I can’t see any way for USAG Holder to skate on this one, either. His performance before Rep. Issa’s Committee was a stumbling rambling lacking any substantive fact. IOW, similar to his subordinate Ron Welch’s.

Its taken over six months, but the MSM is finally smelling blood. How long before one or more start looking to see if BATF offices outside AZ are also “walking” guns ? Several are already opining this government operation seems more tailored to supporting the President’s anti-gun agenda than any legitimate law-enforcement purpose. >PS


23 posted on 06/21/2011 8:32:18 PM PDT by PiperShade
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To: Kaslin

Once Issa gets his “in camera” meeting with DoJ, all this will dry up and blow away in the wind. To believe otherwise is total naivete. Our government has relinquished all credibility.


24 posted on 06/21/2011 8:46:36 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: screaminsunshine
I think it is another stupid lib anti-gun PR scam gone South.

On an evil scale of 1 to 10, that would put barry at about a "2." You know he's much worse than that.

25 posted on 06/21/2011 11:16:10 PM PDT by taraytarah
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To: Erik Latranyi
What's more outrageous is that several ATF agents sounded the alarm about law enforcement and civilians being slaughtered with these weapons.....their superiors said "you have to break a few eggs to make an omlet."

That is straight from ATF testimony!

*THERE* it is, yet again. That infamous "omelet ala Marx" recipe. After literally millions of eggs being 'broken', for which read people being killed, and a fair number of 'kitchens', for which, read nations, laid waste or otherwise ruined, isn't it about high time that this particular recipe was 'round-filed', *PERMANENTLY*?

the infowarrior

26 posted on 06/22/2011 12:47:00 AM PDT by infowarrior
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