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Penn Jillette says he's glad Tenn. lost Miss USA
Waterloo-Cedar Falls Courier ^ | June 21, 2011

Posted on 06/21/2011 6:01:01 PM PDT by xjcsa

Magician and Miss USA judge Penn Jillette says he's happy a pageant queen from Tennessee lost to Miss California USA Alyssa Campanella because her onstage answer to a question about burning Qurans ran afoul of the First Amendment.

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Durham responded to a question about whether burning religious items should be afforded the same constitutional protections as flag burning by saying it crossed a line and shouldn't be allowed.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: missusa; penn; teller
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1 posted on 06/21/2011 6:01:06 PM PDT by xjcsa
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To: xjcsa

“Durham said in a statement Tuesday that she’s disappointed with Jillette’s comments. She says it’s uncalled for that he would delight in shooting down her dreams.”

Bwahahahahaha.....


2 posted on 06/21/2011 6:05:51 PM PDT by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength)
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To: xjcsa
Anybody got an exact transcript of the question and answer?
3 posted on 06/21/2011 6:08:23 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: sam_whiskey

Penn is right, though I might not put it the way he did.


4 posted on 06/21/2011 6:08:34 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: xjcsa
Well thank God we all know what Penn Gillette thinks now.


5 posted on 06/21/2011 6:09:31 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Navy Patriot

More importantly, does anyone have a picture?


6 posted on 06/21/2011 6:12:06 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: xjcsa

Eyecandy. Who cares what she thinks about a Quran.


7 posted on 06/21/2011 6:13:16 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: xjcsa
Hey Ashley...since you are so eager to dump the First Amendment, let me add...

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8 posted on 06/21/2011 6:13:56 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (If you think it's time to bury your weapons.....it's time to dig them up.)
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To: fhayek
More importantly, does anyone have a picture?

Yep, I'm slipping.

9 posted on 06/21/2011 6:16:08 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: fhayek

10 posted on 06/21/2011 6:17:26 PM PDT by Pharmboy (What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
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To: xjcsa
It is a gotcha question that has no place in this type of pageant. The correct answer should be something like:
“That would be a question best answered by our supreme court" not a 20 year old girl trying to get a college scholarship.
11 posted on 06/21/2011 6:17:40 PM PDT by oldbrowser (breitbart for a Pulitzer Prize)
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To: xjcsa

Gotta agree with Mr. Jillette on this one. People should not be banned from burning, trashing, maiming or otherwise desecrating their own privately owned property, regardless of how others feel about said property.


12 posted on 06/21/2011 6:17:51 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: xjcsa

The reason they ask the questions is to allow the judges to discriminate between the contestants.

The questions recently have been more and more political, but that’s why people watch the show, is for the controversy. And the after-pageant controversies help promote the product, too.


13 posted on 06/21/2011 6:18:48 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Navy Patriot
Have another


14 posted on 06/21/2011 6:19:18 PM PDT by Pharmboy (What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
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To: Pharmboy
Definitely not guilty. I'd be willing to spend many hours explaining the Bill of Rights to the young lady, as I'm sure it's just a misunderstanding.
15 posted on 06/21/2011 6:24:49 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: Pharmboy

Whoa!!! Talk about your “Tennessee Waltz’’!!


16 posted on 06/21/2011 6:26:13 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: xjcsa

“...should be afforded the same constitutional protections as flag burning...”
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Huh?


17 posted on 06/21/2011 6:26:50 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Proud to be a (small) monthly donor.)
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To: xjcsa

“Hi! I’m from Tennessee, I like to meet people, I love world peace, and I’m fascinated by small shiny objects.”


18 posted on 06/21/2011 6:28:42 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: xjcsa
because her onstage answer to a question about burning Qurans ran afoul of the First Amendment.

So, she said something he didn't like so he falls back on the first amendment by saying she had no right to her first amendment rights. Typical liberal response or simply an idiot.

19 posted on 06/21/2011 6:33:17 PM PDT by calex59
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To: xjcsa

If she had said feel free to burn the Quoran, they would have hung her for that.

There was no answer she could give that would have passed, she was suckered.


20 posted on 06/21/2011 6:38:19 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: xjcsa
You should be able to demonstrate in any manner you like, safely.

But burning the flag is burning the 1st Amendment. Can't savvy that.

21 posted on 06/21/2011 6:39:07 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Navy Patriot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkSlywOodho#t=1m39sec


22 posted on 06/21/2011 6:42:28 PM PDT by Krankor (Her voice was soft and cool, her eyes were clear and bright . But she's not there)
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To: RobRoy
Penn is right, though I might not put it the way he did.

And that's why he gets paid the big bucks

23 posted on 06/21/2011 6:45:15 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: calex59
Jillette is no liberal. Just a outspoken libertarian. And apparently a first amendment absolutist. I thought her answer was fine. She wasn't asked about the "constitutionality" just whether she thought it was "right" to burn a Koran. The real problem would have been if she had said: "Yes, it's OK, because of free speech". She would have still lost, and the theater would have been burned to the ground by peace-loving Muslims.

I agree that these kinds of political questions are asked of freakin' BEAUTY PAGEANT contestants is wrong. She was damned either way she answered.

24 posted on 06/21/2011 6:46:18 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: pnh102

Does that include their dog?


25 posted on 06/21/2011 6:46:18 PM PDT by LivingNet
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To: Repeal The 17th

That’s what I thought too!? As much as I would hate to see it, as a previous poster said, if it is your property you should be able to do fold, mutilate and spindle as you see fit.

Of course it may warrant a butt kicking from a proud American, but as they say “I love the 1st Amendment, let’s you know who the idiots are!” Same goes with peaceful protest marches by whacko groups, etc.


26 posted on 06/21/2011 6:47:09 PM PDT by 21twelve (Obama Recreating the New Deal: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts)
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To: calex59
So, she said something he didn't like so he falls back on the first amendment by saying she had no right to her first amendment rights. Typical liberal response or simply an idiot.

Where did he say she had no "right" to say what she said? He didn't call for her arrest; he didn't advocate fining her. The first amendment applies *only* to the government - "Congress shall make no law..."

He disagreed with her. He expressed his pleasure that she didn't win a pageant. Where in that process did he violate any of her rights?

27 posted on 06/21/2011 6:47:58 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: Pharmboy

...What did she say????????


28 posted on 06/21/2011 6:51:00 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: xjcsa

I think twitting during a Miss USA Pagant is grounds for having to turn in your real mans license. Assuming he ever had one to begin with.


29 posted on 06/21/2011 6:51:37 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule
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To: Recovering_Democrat

>>>Well thank God we all know what Penn Gillette thinks now.

I’ll sleep well, in comfort with the knowledge. :)


30 posted on 06/21/2011 6:53:02 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: xjcsa
According to the article: "Durham responded to a question about whether burning religious items should be afforded the same constitutional protections as flag burning by saying it crossed a line and shouldn't be allowed."

Based on the above, he didn't ask what she thought "is", he asked what she thought "should be". As such, her answer is not incorrect.

Let's try:

Should US Senators be elected by the Constitutional vote of the population of their states? My answer is "no", they should be chosen by the State legislatures as was done before the 17th Amendment. Of course that would require amending the Constitution."

Or how about:

Should the right to keep and bear arms be Constitutionally protected? My answer is: "Yes, as it is now." Some might answer "No, but it is now so we need to amend the Constitution."

Based on the article her answer is not incorrect, although her view might be.

31 posted on 06/21/2011 6:55:49 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: xjcsa

Thank you Penn, can you give me your thoughts on the cast of Jersey Shore next....


32 posted on 06/21/2011 6:57:29 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Krankor
Thanks for the link.

Miss Tennessee is incorrect in both parts of her answer, as the question is asked in a First Amendment Constitutional framework.

33 posted on 06/21/2011 6:58:24 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: Pharmboy

MY Oh MY


34 posted on 06/21/2011 7:04:49 PM PDT by Charlespg
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To: LivingNet
Does that include their dog?

No, such people would just get to play in the NFL instead.

35 posted on 06/21/2011 7:07:40 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: xjcsa
Did every contestant get a hot topic question like that one???

What was the purpose of the pageant? Was it held to stir up political controversy?

There's a place for questions like that but why in a beauty pageant?

I'd have fared worse than Miss Tennessee. If I'd been asked a question like that in a setting like that, I'd have told the prick to go f**k himself!

36 posted on 06/21/2011 7:07:52 PM PDT by CharlyFord
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To: RobRoy

If you;ve ever seen his show BULL***T you know Penn takes this stuff very seriously. He’s a rather relentless and hardline libertarian. The show hit all the right notes a good 95% of the time.BUT I don’t know why he’d enter the fray with a personal comment. These high-profile Beauty
Pageants have reached for significance instead of allowing the girls to get away with “I want to work for World Peace”
tripe.A year or two ago the notorious gay “Perez Hilton” said for public consumption he wanted to rip the crown from the head of the winner when she said she didn’t support gay marriage. Looks like the shows are courting a little controversy , in a bid for ‘relevance’.


37 posted on 06/21/2011 7:10:42 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: Pharmboy

Wouldn’t mind being her first cousin at all...


38 posted on 06/21/2011 7:11:48 PM PDT by GunsAndBibles (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: Navy Patriot

To be fair, the question was asked in a somewhat convoluted way and Ms. Tennessee does not come across as the brightest apple in the barrel. I think she ignored the “constitutionality” aspect of the question and just gave her opinion that disrespecting religion and flags is a line that people shouldn’t cross. When she threw in that part about burning flags not being patriotic, I was half expecting her to start saying, “I personally believe that US Americans are unable to do so because some people out there in our nation don’t have flags, and I believe that our education like such as South Africa, and the Iraq,...”


39 posted on 06/21/2011 7:16:12 PM PDT by Krankor (Her voice was soft and cool, her eyes were clear and bright . But she's not there)
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To: xjcsa
This country has lost it's mind.

We are getting the vapors out of career beauty queens pageant answers. 2 years ago Ms California was accused of hate speech for defending normal marriage, now this.

40 posted on 06/21/2011 7:24:41 PM PDT by AU72
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To: xjcsa

What an absolutely ridiculous question for a beauty pageant.


41 posted on 06/21/2011 7:30:30 PM PDT by andyk (Interstate <> Intrastate)
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To: xjcsa
'Who do you prefer, Ginger or Mary Ann?'
42 posted on 06/21/2011 8:05:21 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: supremedoctrine

I have not had TV since 1997. However, a friend gave me a copy of the Penn and teller Bullsh** show on recycling. I’m now hooked, thanks to Youtube. The Peta episode is amazing as well. I also stopped recycling and used to be anal about it. I still throw the aluminum cans in the right bin at work, but that’s about it.

I see Penn as my agnostic twin. His worldview is incredibly full of Christian wisdom, but without the Christianity. I get the feeling the guy may just turn around some day.


43 posted on 06/21/2011 8:09:00 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: xjcsa

Ler that be a lesson to ya girly.

You are in a personality contest and the didn’t like your answer.

consider his explanation and ponder it.

One to grow on.


44 posted on 06/21/2011 8:09:28 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Pharmboy

IBL

I’d hit it on the way to 1st!


45 posted on 06/21/2011 8:10:43 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: calex59

Nope.

Her answe falls under my “Lets see if you are interesting enough to talk to more than 5 minutes”.

Fail

I’d probably give her a 2nd chance after a couple of drinks.


46 posted on 06/21/2011 8:14:34 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: RobRoy

Penn & Teller are more than agnostic, they are vehemently anti-religion. To each his own. I agree with them on most things, though. I especially liked the Bull$hit episode on smoking. Neither of them smoke, but adamantly defend the rights of businesses to set their own policies.


47 posted on 06/21/2011 8:23:55 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: xjcsa

Lets be serious. Who watches a beauty pageant to see what weighty answers the attractive, college-age competitors give to loaded questions with political overtones? Please. I admit that I haven’t watched one of these things in years. After awhile, the contestants all seem to blend together. Frankly, I don’t care what Miss Tennessee thinks about burning the Koran. These questions should be mostly superfluous and when they get ‘political’, it puts the young women in a tight spot. From his previous rantings, I suspect that Penn Jillette is about as anti-religion as you can get. His use of his highly developed respect for the First Amendment to criticize a young lady for her forthright response to a no-win question is petty and smacks of bullying. Where do they get these judges?


48 posted on 06/21/2011 9:39:55 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: Vendome

BS, she stated her opinion, HE says she is violating the first amendment(which a private citizen can’t do, BTW)and implies that she has NO first amendment rights and shouldn’t speak her mind. If you can’t see that, I am sorry for you.


49 posted on 06/21/2011 9:49:53 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Navy Patriot

Extensive airbrushing is not the same as a real photograph.


50 posted on 06/21/2011 9:53:39 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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