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Scientists finally determine iceman Otzi's last meal [Ice Man]
PhysOrg.com ^ | June 22, 2011 | by Deborah Braconnier

Posted on 06/22/2011 8:07:21 AM PDT by Red Badger

In a presentation at the Seventh World Congress on Mummy Studies, researchers from the Institute for Mummies and the Iceman revealed that they had finally located the iceman known as Otzi’s stomach and determined his last meal. They were also able to successfully sequence his entire genome.

Researchers from the Institute for Mummies and the Iceman in Italy divided the presentation into three different topics. The first part of the presentation was given by microbiologist Frank Maixner. He had recently examined old tomography scans taken of Otzi back in 2005 and was able to finally locate the stomach which was farther up in the torso and in an unusual position. They found the stomach to be full and, upon examination and sequencing of the DNA, they determined that Otzi had eaten Alpine ibex just 30 to 120 minutes before his death.

The next presentation was led by anatomist Frank Ruhli and dentist Roger Seiler from the Centre for Evolutionary Medicine through the University of Zurich. They presented the dental health of Otzi who was presumed to have dies between the age of 35 and 40. Using three-dimensional images of his teeth, they showed how Otzi had suffered some form of blunt force trauma to two teeth only a few days before his death. They also showed how he suffered from periodontal disease and many cavities. These signs of cavities confirm the fact that the Iceman had consumed a diet full of carbohydrates.

[SNIP]

This genome has already shed some light on some previous beliefs. While most artists performing facial reconstructions of Otzi have shown him with blue eyes, the new sequenced genome show that he probably had brown eyes.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ancientautopsies; archaeology; brucellamelitensis; chalcolithic; dietandcuisine; goat; godsgravesglyphs; iceman; italy; mummy; oetzi; otzi; theiceman

Otzi the Iceman, a well-preserved natural mummy of a Chalcolithic (Copper Age) man from about 3300 BC, who was found in 1991 in the Schnalstal glacier in the Ötztal Alps, near Hauslabjoch on the border between Austria and Italy. © South Tyrol Museum of Archaeology

1 posted on 06/22/2011 8:07:30 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

All signs point to ice.


2 posted on 06/22/2011 8:11:52 AM PDT by struggle
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To: Red Badger

Too many carbs are bad for you.


3 posted on 06/22/2011 8:13:21 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: Red Badger

4 posted on 06/22/2011 8:14:45 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Red Badger

So he ate some goat and died. I still find it hard to imagine that this guy is over 5,000 years old.


5 posted on 06/22/2011 8:14:52 AM PDT by youngidiot (Hear Hear!)
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To: youngidiot

You’re just asking for a picture of HT aren’t you?....................


6 posted on 06/22/2011 8:15:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (Nothing is a 'right' if someone has to give it to you................)
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To: Red Badger

The Iceman was a Vegan?


7 posted on 06/22/2011 8:17:13 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


8 posted on 06/22/2011 8:17:58 AM PDT by shibumi (The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water and breeds reptiles of the mind - Blake)
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To: dfwgator

Ibex is not a vegetable.................


9 posted on 06/22/2011 8:20:21 AM PDT by Red Badger (Nothing is a 'right' if someone has to give it to you................)
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To: Red Badger
You’re just asking for a picture of HT aren’t you?....................

Perhaps. Some of us have weird fetishes. It doesn't make me a bad person, just an eccentric.
10 posted on 06/22/2011 8:22:14 AM PDT by youngidiot (Hear Hear!)
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To: Red Badger

Mouthful of cavities and two broke teeth. Ouch!


11 posted on 06/22/2011 8:26:07 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought ("The proposition that the government is always right is manifested either in corruption or benefits)
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To: Red Badger

Applebee’s Baby Back Ribs?


12 posted on 06/22/2011 8:26:35 AM PDT by GotMojo
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To: School of Rational Thought

Although the article doesn't mention it, they found an arrow broken off in his back years ago..........................

13 posted on 06/22/2011 8:30:32 AM PDT by Red Badger (Nothing is a 'right' if someone has to give it to you................)
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To: Red Badger
These signs of cavities confirm the fact

How is this a fact. It seems science writers have difficulty distinguishing between facts and evidence. It may be proper to say that based on the evidence and the current knowledge of the causes of cavities that it is probable that he had a high carb diet.

I'm not a dental expert but I know there are numerous factors including hereditary, fluoride in water and personal hygiene. How its possible for them to isolate these factors when they have only one subject leads me to believe that the statement only rises to the level of speculation and not even hypothetical and clearly not fact.

14 posted on 06/22/2011 8:30:49 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Red Badger

I enjoy hearing from Otzi from time to time. I wonder how that Ibex was prepared. Whether it was just ‘jerky’ on the road or a more social sit down meal of some sort. Thanks.


15 posted on 06/22/2011 8:31:54 AM PDT by Calusa (The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles. Quoth Bob Dylan.)
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To: Raycpa

Or he may not have had ‘Dental’ as part of his employer’s healthcare plan.................


16 posted on 06/22/2011 8:32:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (Nothing is a 'right' if someone has to give it to you................)
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To: Calusa

Seeing that they found an arrow in his back, he may have stolen it!..............


17 posted on 06/22/2011 8:33:36 AM PDT by Red Badger (Nothing is a 'right' if someone has to give it to you................)
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To: Red Badger

“Scientists finally determine iceman Otzi’s last meal [Ice Man]”

Now I can sleep at night.


18 posted on 06/22/2011 8:33:51 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: School of Rational Thought; Calusa

...and an ax..............

http://echostains.wordpress.com/2010/03/09/preserved-in-time-otzi-the-iceman/


19 posted on 06/22/2011 8:35:24 AM PDT by Red Badger (Nothing is a 'right' if someone has to give it to you................)
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To: Red Badger
Seeing that they found an arrow in his back, he may have stolen it!..............

Maybe it was a wedding or a trade fair and his lads got down to it with some Chalcolithic Capulets.

20 posted on 06/22/2011 8:40:05 AM PDT by Calusa (The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles. Quoth Bob Dylan.)
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To: Calusa

Whatever the cause, he was not a Happy Camper..................


21 posted on 06/22/2011 8:44:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (Nothing is a 'right' if someone has to give it to you................)
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To: Red Badger

“Institute for Mummies and the Iceman”


Something tells me this might be a fun group to hang out with after hours.

Or maybe not.

I can just imagine when they give out their card - “No, no, man, it’s a real place, honest”.


22 posted on 06/22/2011 8:46:28 AM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: Red Badger

My neighbors said it was the Iceman that was seeing my wife after I left for work. Now that I have a good look at him, I’ll catch him next time.


23 posted on 06/22/2011 8:46:49 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (The storm clouds of war are on the horizon, 1939 is again approaching us.)
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To: Calusa

Could have been friendly fire in the hunt for that Ibex . . .

“Hey man I got dibs on the Ibex, I mean like stupid Gorg SHOT ME IN THE FRIGGIN BACK over it!”


24 posted on 06/22/2011 8:52:07 AM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: Red Badger
What a total crap article!

Saying he ate an ibex just hours before is pure BS.

Any fool can see from the photos that the guy hasn't eaten in weeks.

25 posted on 06/22/2011 9:13:59 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U

Uh, 5000 years of dessication in a glacier will do that to you...........


26 posted on 06/22/2011 9:16:21 AM PDT by Red Badger (Nothing is a 'right' if someone has to give it to you................)
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To: Red Badger

Who would have thought that needed a’Sarc’ at the end?


27 posted on 06/22/2011 9:20:48 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Red Badger
TRUE PALEO DIET ALERT!!!

Alpine Ibex is the ticket to health!

True Paleo Diet

28 posted on 06/22/2011 9:26:08 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (A Nation of Sheep Breeds a Government of Wolves!)
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To: Red Badger

McMastodon?


29 posted on 06/22/2011 9:37:26 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: Red Badger
"Using three-dimensional images of his teeth, they showed how Otzi had suffered some form of blunt force trauma to two teeth only a few days before his death"

Sounds like the ibex went down swinging...

30 posted on 06/22/2011 10:10:17 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Beagle8U

Here on FR it’s sometimes hard to tell...............


31 posted on 06/22/2011 10:17:14 AM PDT by Red Badger (Nothing is a 'right' if someone has to give it to you................)
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To: youngidiot
I still find it hard to imagine that this guy is over 5,000 years old.

So, he looks a lot younger to you?

Joking aside, I find it hard to believe that he was naturally mummified, too.

32 posted on 06/22/2011 10:25:24 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: freedomlover
Could have been friendly fire in the hunt for that Ibex . . .

Yeah... But the broken teeth attests to something close up and personal. And that happened first, right? Otzi escaped one encounter only to be tracked down and shot. Perhaps he was able to avoid his pursuers again only to succumb to the elements.

33 posted on 06/22/2011 10:39:39 AM PDT by Calusa (The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles. Quoth Bob Dylan.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
"TRUE PALEO DIET ALERT!!! Alpine Ibex is the ticket to health!"

Here and I thought Ron Paul ate shrimps.

34 posted on 06/22/2011 10:53:53 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: Calusa

A hoof or two to the mouth . . . an arrow in the back from one of your buddies needing some more range time . . . the guy was probably glad to take an ice nap . . .


35 posted on 06/22/2011 10:54:47 AM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: Red Badger

Dental caries traced back to carbohydrates???? Methinks someone is wrong as to the age of this guy unless the local Dairy Queen goes back a LOT further than we think.


36 posted on 06/22/2011 11:30:21 AM PDT by Cyman
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Joking aside, I find it hard to believe that he was naturally mummified, too.

Being frozen solid for 5,000 would mess up some meat (and skin) I would think.
37 posted on 06/22/2011 12:56:46 PM PDT by youngidiot (Hear Hear!)
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To: youngidiot

Well, he looks like he has some freezer burn.


38 posted on 06/22/2011 1:34:26 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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