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Critic of ATF gun-trafficking program raised no objection when briefed last year
washingtonpost.com ^ | June 21 2011 | Jerry Markon and Sari Horwitz

Posted on 06/22/2011 8:49:04 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

A chief Republican critic of a controversial U.S. anti-gun-trafficking operation was briefed on ATF’s “Fast and Furious” program last year and did not express any opposition, sources familiar with the classified briefing said Tuesday.

Rep. Darrell Issa (Calif.), who has repeatedly called for top Justice Department officials to be held accountable for the now-defunct operation, was given highly specific information about it at an April 2010 briefing, the sources said. Members of his staff also attended the session, which Issa and two other Republican congressmen had requested.

Fast and Furious targeted Mexican gun traffickers but was linked to the killing of a U.S. law enforcement officer. Republicans in Congress have criticized the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives over its handling of the operation, with Issa calling it “felony-stupid bad judgment” during a hearing last week in which he grilled a Justice Department official.

At the briefing last year, bureau officials laid out for Issa and other members of Congress from both parties details of several ATF investigations, including Fast and Furious, the sources said. For that program, the briefing covered how many guns had been bought by “straw purchasers,’’ the types of guns and how much money had been spent, said one source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the briefing was not public.

“All of the things [Issa] has been screaming about, he was briefed on,’’ said one source familiar with the session.

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1 posted on 06/22/2011 8:49:12 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
...sources familiar...

How about a name for the source?

2 posted on 06/22/2011 8:51:25 AM PDT by NativeSon
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To: NativeSon

AG Holder?


3 posted on 06/22/2011 8:52:19 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Ah, a WaPo hit piece using unnamed sources. Pay attention to this Mr. and Mrs. America and not all that nasty business with selling guns to narco terrorists.


4 posted on 06/22/2011 8:53:52 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

In a ‘real’ government, “Fast and Furious” could bring down a president.


5 posted on 06/22/2011 8:55:51 AM PDT by choctaw man (Good ole Andrew Jackson, or You're the Reason God Made Oklahoma...)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
The Washington Post was briefed as well, and raised no objection.

</sarcasm>

6 posted on 06/22/2011 8:55:58 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
It is possible that Issa didn't understand all the ramifications at that time. If you aren't actively involved in the RKBA battle you might not see the implications of the plan, and you might buy the BS.

After over 50 years of activism I am more surprised when the sneaky barstards ARE NOT trying to pull a crooked deal.

7 posted on 06/22/2011 8:57:29 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: jospehm20

yeah, you’re probably right. I was thinking more on lines of these two wastes of skin journalists made it all up while sipping over priced lattes in a coffee shop that makes them feel special.


8 posted on 06/22/2011 8:58:36 AM PDT by NativeSon
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

On the other hand, this is coming from WaPo unnamed sources which could be the guy who changes the water bottles in the office water cooler.


9 posted on 06/22/2011 8:59:04 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

Exactly. The Compost did no investigative reporting. CBS and MSNBC actually did. The sad thing is no one trusts, watches or reads them anymore. TheWashCompost will probably get bailed out by Obama and Soro’s when they go under.


10 posted on 06/22/2011 8:59:30 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
When the Repubs do something it's their fault.
When the Rats do something it's Both Parties!

How many closed door meetings did they shut out the Repubs?

11 posted on 06/22/2011 9:01:39 AM PDT by MaxMax
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
Wow, the claims of one unnamed source!

BTW, this supposedly happened in April, 2010. The Republicans were still in the minority then. any objection that Issa could have made would have been ignored. But, now he has the power...

12 posted on 06/22/2011 9:04:26 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

When presented with facts regarding what/who you normally trust, it can take a while to process the information to the point of concluding it’s “felony-stupid”. Also, when you realize it is you may also realize that speaking/acting on it requires extreme care and planning, lest you choke on your own foot or are rendered metabolically challenged by the accused.


13 posted on 06/22/2011 9:04:31 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: Army Air Corps

Leave McCain alone heh


14 posted on 06/22/2011 9:05:59 AM PDT by italianquaker (the Western faculty lounge attitude, which is the sewer that Obama has been marinated in,)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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Any time a firearms-related thread is created on FreeRepublic, please be sure to add the "banglist" keyword to it so that interested FReepers don't miss it. Just a suggestion.

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15 posted on 06/22/2011 9:06:28 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: ctdonath2
Being that the Assistant and AG of DOJ under oath said they don't know anything...this (thrown in the middle of the article) is interesting

"Justice Department officials have said the operation was approved by ATF’s Phoenix field office and the U.S. attorney’s office in Phoenix".

16 posted on 06/22/2011 9:07:09 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Since this supposedly occured in April of 2010, we do not know how much information was actually presented to Issa. The Dems on the committee may have simply said, “Uh, we’re tracking some gun sales. The project is hush-hush, so that is all you need to know, Pubbies.”


17 posted on 06/22/2011 9:07:48 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Issa must be getting very, very close


18 posted on 06/22/2011 9:08:21 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (From her lips to the voters' ears: Debbie Wasserman Schultz: "We own the economy" June 15, 2011)
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To: italianquaker

Good one!


19 posted on 06/22/2011 9:08:35 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

The left ALWAYS has an ulterior motive, it is their nature.


20 posted on 06/22/2011 9:08:58 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: NativeSon

The ATF


21 posted on 06/22/2011 9:10:29 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Let’s hope this smear backfires and makes Issa even more determined.


22 posted on 06/22/2011 9:11:19 AM PDT by battlecry
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To: NativeSon

Either way, the veracity is the same.


23 posted on 06/22/2011 9:13:21 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
Wow, what an interesting name for a guy, Sources Familiar Withe Classified-Briefing. I wonder how you address him when you swear him in at the deposition so ya know exactly what he (didn't) tell Issa?

On the other hand, it shows Issa why he should live 100% pro 2A and gun rights, everyday, because your radar goes up the moment they want to "brief" you, and you'll catch 'em out.

24 posted on 06/22/2011 9:13:56 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Congress was briefed on an operation Holder and the head of the ATF didn’t know anything about?


25 posted on 06/22/2011 9:18:07 AM PDT by Starstruck
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To: Starstruck

Winner winner chicken dinner B I N G O


26 posted on 06/22/2011 9:19:18 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Oh, ok, since an unnamed source didn’t care, it must have been ok. /s.


27 posted on 06/22/2011 9:20:40 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
Loyalist Democrats who understand the gravity of 'Operation Fast And Furious' and where it might lead can barely conceal their panic in their replies on message boards.

Here's proof: On every US news site where commentary from 'Operation Fast And Furious' is permitted, up until today the discussion has been dominated by RKBA proponents aghast at the BATFE's crimes. Democrats have largely been silent, hoping that this all go away.

Now this article comes out and you'll see the Democrats finally come out swinging as if this story actually means something, when it doesn't.

It is time to appoint an Independent Prosecutor.

28 posted on 06/22/2011 9:33:36 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: The KG9 Kid

Very brilliant assessment you hit the nail square on the head.


29 posted on 06/22/2011 9:42:19 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Of course, the pro-Obama pair of WaPo writers don’t KNOW what Issa and others were actually BRIEFED on because the ATF refuses to SAY!!!!

Other than that, the standard WaPo “circle the wagons and attack the accusers” bit of Clintonesque methodology works just FINE, don’t it baby??!!


30 posted on 06/22/2011 9:44:47 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
A chief Republican critic of a controversial U.S. anti-gun-trafficking operation was briefed on ATF’s “Fast and Furious” program last year and did not express any opposition, sources familiar with the classified briefing said Tuesday.

The clear implication of that statement is that some official in either the BATF or in the Justice Department has leaked confidential information to the Washington Post in an attempt to interfere with the oversight responsibilities of Congress.

Where are "the authorities" on this issue - surely there is at least one felony involved in that act.

31 posted on 06/22/2011 9:45:24 AM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: The KG9 Kid
More quips from the article (not reflected in the Title of course)

"ATF is in the midst of uncertainty about its leadership. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. met on Tuesday with Andrew Traver, President Obama’s nominee to head the bureau. Traver’s nomination has stalled in the Senate, and law enforcement and other sources said this week that ATF’s interim leadership could be changed in response to pressure over the Fast and Furious controversy."

"But sources said Tuesday that the acting director, Kenneth E. Melson, has not indicated any plans to resign. One source described morale at the troubled agency as poor, with officials and agents uncertain about what will happen next".

32 posted on 06/22/2011 9:50:52 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Even if true, do they think that makes it OK for the government to ship guns to drug cartels that are ised to murder innocent people including border patrol and US citizens?


33 posted on 06/22/2011 10:00:46 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Using WaPo’s logic, it’s apparently more wrong not to stop a heinous act than to commit one.


34 posted on 06/22/2011 10:06:30 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Weak DOJ attempt to hit back at Issa using its WaPo surrogates. Who do they think they are fooling?


35 posted on 06/22/2011 10:07:53 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Zeppo

See post # 32. If the media were doing their jobs and not trying to shamelessly drag Issa in on what they know are Holder and Obama’s crimes.

The headline should be...

Melson, has not indicated any plans to resign

< / media BS PC OFF>

Melson is not Resigning


36 posted on 06/22/2011 10:10:34 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Exactly.


37 posted on 06/22/2011 10:11:26 AM PDT by Gator113 ("GAME ON." I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

REALLY did the secret source say whether the BATF told them that the weopons were allowed to WALK INTO MEXICO TO DRUG CARTELS?


38 posted on 06/22/2011 10:15:19 AM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
If Issa had been briefed on the full extent of the operation (if this briefing actually took place) the ATF and Justice department would be elated to give this information out along with who did the briefing and when and where and details of the briefing.

This article is pure diversion.

39 posted on 06/22/2011 10:15:47 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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Pure diversion and they planted the real news in the middle of the article that cannot be reported until it is said that Issa is a bad man too (which we all know is BS)

The REAL news...

Melson is not Resigning

40 posted on 06/22/2011 10:25:44 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: cpdiii
All great points. Why would ATF stall on info they have already given to the Congressman? Why did ATF brief congress and the AG didn't know anything about it? Did ATF tell Congress they were going to let these guns go?

I know the answer to the last one is a resounding "NO" because moving contraband across an international border would require State Dept. involvement and everybody knows that.

41 posted on 06/22/2011 10:27:07 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
Rep. Darrell Issa (Calif.), who has repeatedly called for top Justice Department officials to be held accountable for the now-defunct operation, was given highly specific information about it at an April 2010 briefing, the sources said. Members of his staff also attended the session, which Issa and two other Republican congressmen had requested.

In April 2010 Issa was a minority member, not the committee chair, and therefore knew that raising a stink at that time might have no other effect than to give time for the thugs at the ATF to cover their tracks.

42 posted on 06/22/2011 10:42:04 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: Starstruck

Try to answer that one under oath!!! :)


43 posted on 06/22/2011 10:45:28 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Of course he was briefed, Gunrunner’s been around for a while. But did they tell Issa about Obama’s change to the program that allowed guns into Mexico?


44 posted on 06/22/2011 10:48:10 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

Exactly

1. What exactly was the content of the briefing? Was it made clear at the briefing that the guns were going to be allowed into Mexico?

2. Are we seriously to believe that Congress was briefed on the program at a higher level of detail than Holder? Seriously?


45 posted on 06/22/2011 10:50:09 AM PDT by altsehastiin
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

horse hockey.

That Mr. Sources guy sure gets around.


46 posted on 06/22/2011 10:51:56 AM PDT by HonestConservative (http://www.freedomradiorocks.com)
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To: Carry_Okie

Along with my other posts of what is buried in this article BTW:that Melson is not resigning... and the entire buttass backwards theories in this article. (When both the Assistant and AG under sworn testimony have said they know nothing) how can the DOJ brief what they don’t know?

Also: Notice the title. No where does it use the proper operation- Fast and Furious.It is a diversion. Is the Washington Post playing lawyer/biased for Holder and Obama this badly?
I remember reading that the media were stepping up to fightthesmears for Obama but this is a very serious felony we are talking about not some campaign.


47 posted on 06/22/2011 10:53:13 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: antiRepublicrat

From your lips to God’s ears in correcting things.


48 posted on 06/22/2011 10:54:46 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
So let me get this straight:

You cannot get any answers out of the ATF, now, under Subpeona, but a year ago, they offered all of this information freely.

And this comes from an anonymous source.

Riiiiiiight.

Good old WallPole. They can be counted on to lie, outright, every time.

49 posted on 06/22/2011 10:58:32 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Lazamataz
You forgot that hidden in the middle of the article it insinuates big time that

Melson is not resigning


50 posted on 06/22/2011 11:01:28 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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