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Agent's shot kills rock thrower at border fence
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | 6/22/2011 | Debbi Baker

Posted on 06/22/2011 11:13:38 AM PDT by South40

SAN YSIDRO — A Border Patrol agent shot and killed a man who was trying to enter the country from Mexico Tuesday night during a fight that left another agent injured.

The agent spotted three men who were crossing at the border fence just before 7:30 p.m. and called for assistance, San Diego police homicide Lt. Ernie Herbert said.

Border Patrol Agent Michael Jimenez said the location was 1.6 miles west of the San Ysidro Port of Entry.

(Excerpt) Read more at signonsandiego.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; mexico; obamafailure; wot
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1 posted on 06/22/2011 11:13:40 AM PDT by South40
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To: South40
There better not be any Obama retaliation against this agent.
2 posted on 06/22/2011 11:15:05 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President. He's shovel ready!)
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To: Mikey_1962
Will be really interesting to see what happens....

..this could be the tipping point!

3 posted on 06/22/2011 11:17:41 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: South40

hmmm. Ok. And the problem is? I don’t understand why they don’t shoot on site anyway. That would take care of the problem. I read further in the article that (of course) an investigation is underway, Mexico “energetically condemns the shooting” and that lawsuits for excessive force are underway. What the....? Shoot them! They are ILLEGAL and they want to kill our agents. What is the problem? Have we lost our collective minds?


4 posted on 06/22/2011 11:18:02 AM PDT by murrie (For God so loved the world, that he gave His only begotten Son..........)
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To: South40
A Border Patrol agent shot and killed a man who was trying to enter the country from Mexico Tuesday night

"That's a shame."

/Seinfeld

5 posted on 06/22/2011 11:18:13 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: South40

“San Diego police homicide Lt. Ernie Herbert “

Homicide officer?
Why is he involved?


6 posted on 06/22/2011 11:18:13 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Mikey_1962

Holder will probably try to charge him with a crime.


7 posted on 06/22/2011 11:18:36 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Mikey_1962

If this rock thrower uttered the password “I vote Democrat” and was still shot, this agent is toast.


8 posted on 06/22/2011 11:18:51 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: South40
shot and killed a man who was trying to enter the country from Mexico

The man was not shot for trespassing.
The man was shot for hurling large rocks and pieces of wood at a federal agent, striking one agent in the head with a thrown object.

9 posted on 06/22/2011 11:19:05 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: All

Will Holder ask for life with no parole?


10 posted on 06/22/2011 11:19:13 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: Mikey_1962

If there is a Civil War, the Left will side with the Mexicans, like they side with radical Islam and everyone else who hates Christianity and America.


11 posted on 06/22/2011 11:19:34 AM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: South40

Only one? Someone give that man a full auto street sweeper.


12 posted on 06/22/2011 11:20:16 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: murrie
THINGS I DON'T WANT TO DO TODAY:

1. Throw rocks and lumber at law enforcement agents who are armed and arresting someone.

13 posted on 06/22/2011 11:21:11 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (We .. have a purpose .. no longer to please every dictator with a vote at the UN. PM Harper)
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To: South40

If there 999 more, the flow of human sewage and detritus will slow drastically.


14 posted on 06/22/2011 11:21:15 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: South40

So what.

That line on the map was drawn with the blood of men. That’s the only thing that’s going to keep it there too. Americans didn’t create the world, we just want to live in it our way. I’ll have no guilt even if the bodies stack to the clouds. Ask Hiroshima.


15 posted on 06/22/2011 11:22:28 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: wac3rd

And they will die right alongside them too.


16 posted on 06/22/2011 11:22:34 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: opentalk
Holder will probably try to charge him with a crime.

That would be torches and pitchforks time.

It would look like the vilages marching on Frankenstein Castle.

17 posted on 06/22/2011 11:24:01 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President. How else could he beat Hillary?)
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To: South40

Lets hope the Mr. Sutton, the attorney down in Texas isn’t on the case...Otherwise there will be some border patrol officers going to prison.


18 posted on 06/22/2011 11:26:38 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: wac3rd
If there is a Civil War, the Left will side with the Mexicans

Since the left and government at all levels already do, I'd say it's kinda late for that.

19 posted on 06/22/2011 11:28:41 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Sutton works in/for the Western District of Texas, though he’s probably submitting his request for transfer as I write.


20 posted on 06/22/2011 11:29:32 AM PDT by South40 (Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: ClearCase_guy
The man was not shot for trespassing.
The man was shot for hurling large rocks and pieces of wood at a federal agent, striking one agent in the head with a thrown object.

At least they got the headline right.

21 posted on 06/22/2011 11:30:54 AM PDT by South40 (Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: Darksheare

“San Diego police homicide Lt. Ernie Herbert “

“Homicide officer?
Why is he involved?”

The shooting happened within the city limits of San Diego.


22 posted on 06/22/2011 11:32:49 AM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: forgotten man

Homicide does not need to be involved, this wasn’t a homicide.


23 posted on 06/22/2011 11:34:09 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Darksheare

Because this was, undeniably, homicide.

An investigation will determine the nature of the homicide and forward the findings to the local coroner and DA.

That’s how it should work.


24 posted on 06/22/2011 11:37:44 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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From the "Guide For The Mexican Immigrant", Distributed by the Mexican Ministry of Foreign Relations.

Do not resist arrest.
Do not assault or insult officials.
Do not throw rocks or objects at officials or at patrols since this is considered a provocation by those officials.
If they believe themselves to be under attack, it is likely that they will use force to arrest you.
Raise your hands slowly so that they see you are not armed.
Do not have in your hands any object that could be considered a weapon such as spotlights, screwdrivers, pocket knives, knives, or rocks.

25 posted on 06/22/2011 11:40:39 AM PDT by South40 (Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: South40

26 posted on 06/22/2011 11:41:09 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways a Guero y Guay Lao >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: Darksheare

Yes it was.
Homicide is simply the killing of a human by another human.
Check.

It doesn’t presume the nature of the killing, the motives or assess any blame or criminal act.


27 posted on 06/22/2011 11:41:53 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Darksheare
Homicide does not need to be involved, this wasn’t a homicide.

A man was killed, that is homicide. Justifiable homicide, but homicide just the same.

28 posted on 06/22/2011 11:42:03 AM PDT by South40 (Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: wac3rd

They will also die with them too.


29 posted on 06/22/2011 11:42:15 AM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: South40

hey man, nice shot.


30 posted on 06/22/2011 11:43:14 AM PDT by RC one (Do Not Raise the Debt Limit!)
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To: Darksheare

Justifiable homicide? San Diego P.D. always shows up when there is a killing in the city. I remember when some punks came on to man’s property armed with pipes. Homeowner got his gun. There were two dead punks with pipes on the lawn. SDPD came and investigated. Homeowner was not arrested or charged. I think there will be same outcome here.


31 posted on 06/22/2011 11:45:03 AM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: South40

They will blame the agent.. some employer needed that illegal to do work no American will do


32 posted on 06/22/2011 11:45:35 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RC one

I live in San Diego County. It’s not uncommon to see a Border Patrol vehicle that has bars on its windows and dents all over its body. These cretins throw any and everything they can find at our agents. And no one can tell me that, even though they may be stupid, they don’t know better.


33 posted on 06/22/2011 11:46:00 AM PDT by South40 (Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: forgotten man; South40; SJSAMPLE

Hope so.
I’ve not seen them involve homicide into officers having to shoot anyone here in NY before.
That’s why I was wondering about it.
They usually use the term homicide here when they really mean ‘murder’.


34 posted on 06/22/2011 11:49:06 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: South40
Like I said, "nice shot". I'm pretty good with a pistol myself but it sounds like that officer should get a marksmanship award.
35 posted on 06/22/2011 11:49:36 AM PDT by RC one (Do Not Raise the Debt Limit!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
A Border Patrol agent shot and killed a man who was trying to enter the country from Mexico Tuesday night during a fight that left another agent injured.

Other reports tell a different story. Three illegals were spotted going through a hole in the fence. Agents caught one who struggled while the other two ran back through the hole. Somebody climbed the fence and started throwing rocks at the BP agents while they were trying to cuff the third Mexican. That guy got shot. One of the BP agents went to the hospital, was treated and released.

Once again bad command of the English language tells a different story than what happened.

36 posted on 06/22/2011 11:50:47 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: South40

Boo Hoo!


37 posted on 06/22/2011 11:52:16 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Darksheare

From all I have read it should be ruled a justifiable homicide. But the agent will probably still have to hire a lawyer and spend money he earned to support his family so he can prove it.


38 posted on 06/22/2011 11:52:51 AM PDT by South40 (Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: murrie
I don’t understand why they don’t shoot on site anyway.

Every report of such a shooting has always reported they shot them on site AFIK. Taking them somewhere else and then shooting them would get an automatic murder charge against the shooter.

39 posted on 06/22/2011 11:55:04 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: South40

Probably.
We’ll have to wait and see what Holder and ‘his people’ do with this.
I also expect Mannish Janet to do something stupid.
[Last time someone got shot at the border while chucking rocks, we had to apologize to Mexico.]
I do not trust this administration.


40 posted on 06/22/2011 11:56:11 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Give the shooter two cartons of cigarettes, a promotion, and a change of venue.


41 posted on 06/22/2011 11:56:35 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: All
Message to Mexico concerning the deaths of it's citizens by our border patrol
42 posted on 06/22/2011 11:57:42 AM PDT by South40 (Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: Darksheare

I guarantee you, EVERY TIME a NY cop shoots somebody, it’s investigated, but probably not by the same department.


43 posted on 06/22/2011 12:08:48 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: South40

44 posted on 06/22/2011 12:11:17 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: USNBandit

Thanks for the clarification, but in all honesty, I read “Mexican” and “shot” and that’s all I wanted to know ;)


45 posted on 06/22/2011 12:13:47 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: South40
engage Sean Connery accent: Ain't that just like a dago wop illegal immigrant? He brings a knife rock to a gunfight!
46 posted on 06/22/2011 12:17:53 PM PDT by NorCoGOP (Obama's approval ratings: so low that Kenyans now accuse him of being born in the USA)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Excellent (except that Federal “FC” brass sucks for reloading).


47 posted on 06/22/2011 12:20:54 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


48 posted on 06/22/2011 1:00:48 PM PDT by HiJinx (Old Cold Warrior)
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To: South40

ALGore should be ok with the population reduction.


49 posted on 06/22/2011 1:10:53 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Impeach Obama for among other things , violating the War Powers Act.)
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To: NorCoGOP

lol! I love Sean Connery! What a difference between him and the old day and what Hollywood has become now.


50 posted on 06/22/2011 1:26:01 PM PDT by South40 (Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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