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Lawrence O'Donnell Accuses Michele Bachmann of Being a Socialist
NewsBusters ^ | 06/22/2011 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on 06/22/2011 11:39:23 AM PDT by unseen1

Lawrence O'Donnell on Tuesday accused Congresswoman Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) of being a socialist.

"The Last Word" host, who has admitted on national television to himself being a socialist, did so by cherry-picking from an article published at the perilously liberal website "The Huffington Post" (video follows with commentary and full transcript at end of post):

LAWRENCE O'DONNELL: Michele Bachmann, as has been pointed out in this space before, has a family farm that has received over a quarter of million dollars in direct cash from the federal government. That is, of course, in addition to her federal salary of $174,000 for her real full-time job as a member of Congress. Thanks to Sam Stein at the Huffington Post today, with we now have yet another example of Bachmann political dependence, career dependence on socialism.

The Huffington Post obtained a letter Bachmann wrote on October 5th, 2009, to the Obama administration’s Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack thanking him for government intervention in the pork industry. That's right, government intervention in the market. She wrote, “Your efforts to stabilize prices through direct government purchasing of pork and dairy products are very much welcomed.”

Yes. This is the same woman who said this about the Democrats' health care reform bill.

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/06/22/lawrence-odonnell-cherry-picks-huffington-post-call-michele-bachmann-#ixzz1Q1vV3cId

(Excerpt) Read more at newsbusters.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bachmann; hypocrite; palin; socialism
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O'donnell is 100% wrong to call Bachmann a socialist. He should have simply called her a hypocrite.

bachmann's full quote:

"Your efforts to stabilize prices through direct government purchasing of pork and dairy products are very much welcomed by the producers in Minnesota, and I would encourage you to take any additional steps necessary to prevent further deterioration of these critical industries, such as making additional commodity purchases and working to expand trade outlets for these and other agricultural goods,"

So to Bachmann it is wrong to bailout other people but if the spirits of the market impact her district then all steam ahead with the government bailout.

And btw I don't think I have ever seen newbusters twist like this to defend someone.

1 posted on 06/22/2011 11:39:28 AM PDT by unseen1
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To: unseen1
How often have we seen it? People who profess conservative principles but don't really want a smaller, less intrusive government. They just want a government that advocates on behalf of their specific agenda. The same can be said of some social conservatives as well.
2 posted on 06/22/2011 11:44:11 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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To: unseen1

O’Donnell is nuts! He is padded cell, put him in a strait-jacket an medicate him nuts!!


3 posted on 06/22/2011 11:44:50 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: unseen1

To b*stardize a well known meme, “Being socialist is doing the same thing time and time again and expecting different results.”


4 posted on 06/22/2011 11:46:35 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: unseen1

To b*stardize a well known meme, “Being socialist is doing the same thing time and time again and expecting different results.”


5 posted on 06/22/2011 11:46:41 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: unseen1

So she got farm money! Problem she is white??? Go to hell O’Donnell


6 posted on 06/22/2011 11:47:11 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
I'm tired of it. If you read the article they act like falling prices are bad. here is a newsflash for some in the gop. Supply and demand means prices go down as well as up. If we had falling prices in say pork more people would buy pork some farmers would go out of business the supply would decrease the increasing demand from lower prices and smaller supply would cause the price to go up naturally and farmers would flock back into the field. and the market will decide on where the resources should go based on price and the law of supply and demand. what the government did is destory the market in pork placed many farmers on the government dole and caused an oversupply of pork to be continue to flood the market. It was wasted resources, wasted taxpayer money and wasted time. It is the same with the autobailout (which Ryan voted for) I hate hypocrites
7 posted on 06/22/2011 11:49:41 AM PDT by unseen1
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To: unseen1

Apparently, Liberals think Conservatives are Anarchists.


8 posted on 06/22/2011 11:50:31 AM PDT by Pete (29thday.org Exponential problems require exponential solutions)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

agreed. like I said he is 100% wrong on the socialist charge.


9 posted on 06/22/2011 11:51:03 AM PDT by unseen1
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To: unseen1

Don’t worry O’Donnell FR is now on the same page with you.

Why we hate that Bachmann even more than Mittens. Yeah.


10 posted on 06/22/2011 11:51:44 AM PDT by dforest
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To: indylindy
Care to comment on the story itself? What is your opinion of Bachmann writing this?

She wrote, “Your efforts to stabilize prices through direct government purchasing of pork and dairy products are very much welcomed.”

11 posted on 06/22/2011 11:53:31 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: indylindy

he isn’t on the same page as me. I don’t think Bachmann is a socialist.

but I like how you defend government bailouts because Bachmann liked them.


12 posted on 06/22/2011 11:53:37 AM PDT by unseen1
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To: unseen1

not excusing bachmann, but this is what msnbc does, they find tiny little stupid points to say “gotcha” to republicans.

I watch msnbc sometimes, just for the laughs - usually the ‘news’ shows are unintentionally funny, but sometimes, I just groan and flip the channel.


13 posted on 06/22/2011 11:53:46 AM PDT by rokkitapps ( Hearings on healthcare waivers NOW! (If you agree make this your tagline))
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To: unseen1
Only problem is the accusations here are a total lies with no base in fact.

For example, Bachmann, whoes FATHER IN LAW owns a farm, has nothing to do with that farm. Bachmann has consistently voted against Farm Subsides while in Congress.

So rather then then calling he a hypocrite, the Junk Media should apologies for lying about her.

Better check your sources closer in the future, just because someone in the Leftist clown posse writes something, doesn't make it true

14 posted on 06/22/2011 11:54:29 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: MNJohnnie
Only problem is the accusations here are a total lies with no base in fact.

Care to address Bachmann's comment?

She wrote, “Your efforts to stabilize prices through direct government purchasing of pork and dairy products are very much welcomed.”

If this is a lie, a manufactured quote, then shame on Huff Post. If it is not, shame on Bachmann AFAIC.

15 posted on 06/22/2011 11:56:10 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: unseen1
Michele Bachmann, as has been pointed out in this space before, has a family farm that has received over a quarter of million dollars in direct cash from the federal government

Total lie, no base at all in fact. Her family has no farm. It just another leftist lie by the Left wing clown posse at Huffington Post. Clowns are wonderfully careless with there "Facts"

16 posted on 06/22/2011 11:56:53 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: unseen1

>>> Lawrence O’Donnell Accuses Michele Bachmann of Being a Socialist

Wrong!

This just shows Michele Bachmann a ‘typical politician’, elected to bring pork back to her district.

So how can we be sure Bachmann will be an Outsider to clean up the swamp, while she’s engaging (at least one) typical DC insider deal?


17 posted on 06/22/2011 11:57:03 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: rokkitapps
not excusing bachmann, but this is what msnbc does, they find tiny little stupid points to say “gotcha” to republicans.

If this quote is true, Bachmann gotcha'd herself.

18 posted on 06/22/2011 11:57:10 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: unseen1

Sarah likes windfall profit taxes and turning US sovereignty over to the UN. She also likes Title 9 and set up a commission for climate change.

Would I agree with O’Donnell about her and go on to give O’Donnell and Obama support?

Absolutely not.


19 posted on 06/22/2011 11:57:38 AM PDT by dforest
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To: rokkitapps

Agreed. Like I said O’donnell is 100% wrong.


20 posted on 06/22/2011 11:57:49 AM PDT by unseen1
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To: gov_bean_ counter

“They just want a government that advocates on behalf of their specific agenda. The same can be said of some social conservatives as well.”

######

Hmmmmm,

Don’t want babies killed. ANY babies.

Don’t want government to enable the mainstreaming of perversion.

If that “agenda” is “specific” to me, I mourn for our country.


21 posted on 06/22/2011 11:58:40 AM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: MNJohnnie

care to explain how this is a total lie?

did she or did she not write that letter?

Are these her words or are they making it up?

On Oct. 5, 2009, Bachmann wrote Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack praising him for injecting money into the pork industry through the form of direct government purchases. She went on to request additional assistance.

“Your efforts to stabilize prices through direct government purchasing of pork and dairy products are very much welcomed by the producers in Minnesota, and I would encourage you to take any additional steps necessary to prevent further deterioration of these critical industries, such as making additional commodity purchases and working to expand trade outlets for these and other agricultural goods,” Bachmann wrote.


22 posted on 06/22/2011 11:59:33 AM PDT by unseen1
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To: unseen1

It is not necessarily hypocritical to advocate for changing policies while continuing to benefit from them personally or through your constituents.

Some of us think the mortgage deduction has been a real problem in distorting the real estate market and should be reduced or eliminated. Yet I suspect pretty much all of us continue to take advantage of it while it is still in effect.

If old enough, most of us probably accept our social security checks despite having spent decades advocating for reform of the program.

I have read posts where freepers decry the bad effect of having senators elected directly rather than by the state legislatures. But they still probably vote directly for the senator of their choice.

But you get my point.


23 posted on 06/22/2011 11:59:33 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: unseen1
I love this line from the Newsbusters article:

And, such purchases are nothing new. As the National Pork Producers Council notes, it's been going on since 1935:

Great. Let's fall back on New Deal policies as justification for Bachmann's comment.

24 posted on 06/22/2011 12:00:20 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
Produce the letter. Since the “Family farm” meme is prove a lie by the fact her family owes no farm, the burden of proof on this supposed quote from a supposed letter rests with the accusers, not the accused.

Innocent until prove guilty is the principal here. Not up to us to prove every smear attack by every scum bag Leftist a fraud. They are prove liars, therefore without proof the rest of their accusations are assumed lies until proof is offered.

25 posted on 06/22/2011 12:00:58 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: indylindy

You just can’t ever address the topic, can you? And you yet again drag Palin into a thread that has nothing to do with Palin.


26 posted on 06/22/2011 12:01:54 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: MNJohnnie

Newsbusters does not call into question the letter in an otherwise sympathetic article.


27 posted on 06/22/2011 12:02:48 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: unseen1

The left is playing ‘divide and conquer’ with the Republican candidates for the GOP presidential nomination. Lawrence O’Donnell doesn’t give a rat’s patoot whether Michele Bachmann is a ‘socialist’ or not but he is just smart enough to know the accusation will resonate with the few conservatives that see/hear/read it. He’s hoping to help turn conservative, Tea Party voters against Michele Bachmann and perhaps help Romney, Huntsman or even Pawlenty. He will fail because although Michele Bachmann has her faults, she is no socialist. The none-too-bright Lawrence O’Donnell went a bridge too far in attempting to smear Bachmann with a lie based on scanty evidence. Of course, should Sarah Palin chose to run, I’m confident that dopes such as Lawrence O’Donnell will call her a communist. The guy is a lightweight nitwit, which is why he’s on MSNBC with an audience that is barely a third of Fox News staple and ratings king, Bill O’Reilly.


28 posted on 06/22/2011 12:05:39 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: dirtboy
I wonder where bachmann found government intervention into markets in her Von Mises?

When I ask who she reads on the subject, she responds that she admires the late Milton Friedman as well as Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams. "I'm also an Art Laffer fiend—we're very close," she adds. "And [Ludwig] von Mises. I love von Mises," getting excited and rattling off some of his classics like "Human Action" and "Bureaucracy." "When I go on vacation and I lay on the beach, I bring von Mises."

Ludwig Heinrich Edler von Mises (German pronunciation: [ˈluːtvɪç fɔn ˈmiːzəs]; September 29, 1881 – October 10, 1973) was an Austrian-American economist, historian, philosopher, author, and classical liberal who had a significant influence on the modern free-market libertarian movement and the Austrian School.

29 posted on 06/22/2011 12:05:56 PM PDT by unseen1
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To: dirtboy

This poster posted this, you ain’t stupid, to start another hate Bachmann thread. The least you need to do is be honest. Its telling because Palin fans love to back up what the left says about Bachmann.

I don’t think anyone around here has acccused Palin of being a socialist and then jumped on to offer comfort to the left.

If that were true, they would have been zotted.


30 posted on 06/22/2011 12:06:00 PM PDT by dforest
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To: gov_bean_ counter

This just in.....Lawrence O’Donnell’s pet Gerbil accuses him of being an ANAL FETISHIST.


31 posted on 06/22/2011 12:07:19 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: MNJohnnie

so father in laws are no longer family?


32 posted on 06/22/2011 12:07:37 PM PDT by unseen1
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To: Sir Napsalot

my thoughts too.


33 posted on 06/22/2011 12:08:23 PM PDT by unseen1
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To: indylindy
Nice rant. Now, care to address the topic of the article? Namely, Bachmann being grateful for government intervention?

I guess you don't want to address it. Best to rant about Palin instead.

34 posted on 06/22/2011 12:08:33 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: unseen1
In today's politics, it doesn't matter if the charge is true or not, or whether the accuser believes it or not.

It's all about disrupting the message. When O'Donnell makes a charge like this, he's hoping to put Bachmann on the defensive, and he's hoping she will respond in a way that opens up additional questions.

-PJ

35 posted on 06/22/2011 12:09:13 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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To: MNJohnnie
For example, Bachmann, whoes FATHER IN LAW owns a farm, has nothing to do with that farm.

Not enough degrees of separation. Daughter and FIL are close enough to create a conflict of interest. It would have been the proper thing for her to vote against (or abstain) if that is in fact what she has done.

36 posted on 06/22/2011 12:09:23 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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To: indylindy

sure you hav ein the past in fact you are doing it now.

One ACES isn’t a windfall profit tax , it is more like a royality payment that goes up as the price of oil goes up not the profits of the company. It is tagged to the price of oil not compnaies profits. so just you using that attack is you agreeing with the left,


37 posted on 06/22/2011 12:11:36 PM PDT by unseen1
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To: unseen1

Horsefeathers ,Aces is a nice new name for a windfall profit tax. Thats why the current Governor is trying to kill it. He wants to kill it because it is killing the industry.


38 posted on 06/22/2011 12:13:42 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Sherman Logan

good points. but we are not in a postion to change on influence the policy.


39 posted on 06/22/2011 12:14:20 PM PDT by unseen1
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To: dirtboy

Yeah, I will, have you even let Bachmann dispute this claim? Nope, I make my point.


40 posted on 06/22/2011 12:15:38 PM PDT by dforest
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To: unseen1
It's sickening to see supposed "Conservatives" use the same scum bag tactics of the Leftist clown posse.

The Left routinely scream a bunch of lies about a Conservative, then demand every single one of the lies be proven false.

Here is a better idea. You provide the proof. The accusations are lies. The accusation about the Family Farm is a proven lie. Since it is a lie, the rest of this can be assumed to be a lie.

Prove me wrong.

41 posted on 06/22/2011 12:16:07 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: Gaffer

now that was funny.


42 posted on 06/22/2011 12:16:09 PM PDT by unseen1
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To: MNJohnnie

Exactly, bump that.


43 posted on 06/22/2011 12:16:39 PM PDT by dforest
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To: unseen1; dirtboy; gov_bean_ counter
It's sickening to see supposed "Conservatives" use the same scum bag tactics of the Leftist clown posse.

The Left routinely scream a bunch of lies about a Conservative, then demand every single one of the lies be proven false.

Here is a better idea. You provide the proof. The accusations are lies. The accusation about the Family Farm is a proven lie. Her family lives in White Bear Lake, MN. A suburb of St Paul. They have never owned a farm. They do not own a farm.

Since that accusation is a lie, the rest of this can be assumed to be a lie.

Prove me wrong.

44 posted on 06/22/2011 12:17:46 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: indylindy
Yeah, I will, have you even let Bachmann dispute this claim? Nope, I make my point.

Except that your history shows that you will be calling this old news and will never get around to addressing it.

Just as your history is always dragging Palin into threads that have nothing to do with Palin.

45 posted on 06/22/2011 12:19:02 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: unseen1

Can we have some context for this extract from Bachmann’s letter to Valsick? What was done before the “direct purchase” of pork and dairy products? What alternatives were available?

The government purchase of these commodities has to be enormous ever single year. If one considers only those purchases for feeding the military on bases around the country and around the world, the cost would run into hundreds of millions of dollars. How were these products purchased before, if not “directly?”

How is it ‘socialist’ to advocate the US DAg’s expanding the market for US agricultural products?


46 posted on 06/22/2011 12:20:14 PM PDT by EDINVA ( CHANGE it back!)
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To: MNJohnnie
I haven't even mentioned the alleged farm subsidy payments.

The core allegation here is Bachmann's gratitude for government intervention in ag markets.

I am inclined to believe it is true given that Newsbusters apparently put a lot of effort into this rebuttal and did not make any claim that the letter is false.

So here again we appear to have Bachmann's split personality - the Tea Party leader who likes government intervensions.

And what do we get from the Bachmann camp on FR? Exactly what we've come to expect from them - lots of yelling, dragging Palin into the thread, name calling, the works. Everything but actually addressing the topic of the story.

47 posted on 06/22/2011 12:23:39 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

When you lose an argument, attack the other person personally.

Won’t work, mainly because I don’t care if you attack me personally.


48 posted on 06/22/2011 12:24:08 PM PDT by dforest
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To: MNJohnnie
I don't have to prove anything to you. I don't care that the Bachmanns don't own a farm. Daughter/Father-in-law relationships are close enough to create conflict of interest.

I hope she has done the right thing in light of that truth.

49 posted on 06/22/2011 12:24:42 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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To: EDINVA

read the entire article linked it puts the best spin on the context that they can.


50 posted on 06/22/2011 12:25:49 PM PDT by unseen1
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