Posted on 06/22/2011 12:44:33 PM PDT by TEXOKIE
To all who have responded to this thread:
Please accept my warmest thanks for your posts, comments, and links. This certainly is an education.
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If you find an article or thread which should be brought to our attention, and I havent seen it, perhaps you could post it or the link on this thread to my attention. Others who are interested in developments, just pull up the thread and see if there is anything new.
As stated earlier, I am willing to alert people to articles as I run across them, but I am seeing that we are facing a Hydra, and we will see evidence of its activity in many areas. I can see that if this ping list were to be properly administered, it would be a consuming job. I am not able to do that proper job at this time. That is why I am suggesting this thread as a possible solution to bringing such things to light in a central place. Just a suggestion. I’m certainly open to others.
I join others on this thread who express that there is much to hope for. There is indeed evil in the world. But we who are tied to the God of the Old and New Testament know that there is recourse. God is greater than all of the evil crawling on the earth. He also has a plan. We can choose to be a part of that plan and by His grace and power, He will have the Victory. But in my opinion, it is a partnership. We can’t do it without Him, and He has set things up so that He will not do it without us asking Him to do so.
For those who are inclined to pray, I am grateful for your intercessory prayers for our nation and this earth and for God’s children everywhere.
God bless all of you, and thank you again.
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Same circle.
I don’t know what you are proposing when you say “We can’t do it without Him”. What exactly are you proposing is the goal of what we should do? What would you propose should be the end result?
Prophesy tells us that there is a plan and God has told us what will be. Your “He will not do it without us asking Him to do so” is in error. God is not constrained by our wishes. He has told us what is coming and nothing will stop that progression. We pray “They will be done, on earth as it is in heaven”.
WOW, I just got done watching that 90 minute video with the ‘Mad Dog Liberal’ addressing the Tea Party on Agency 21 and ICLEI and I am now more fearful than before - there’s redevelopment crap all over my area....great informational video....even though she’s a lesbian feminist....
In response to the many revelations on the Sabbath year, after writing Shemitta I went back to Genesis 4 to look at the old Cain & Abel story in more depth. Verse seven in particular is, in my opinion, a horrible rendition of the Hebrew, having little to nothing to do with an offering. Instead, it is about the nature of agriculture being feast or famine, and that Cain will be forced to take action to feed his family. Abel's death looks more to be by assimilation than by conflict. It's just the nature of agro-urban civilization to dominate their nomadic brethren into oblivion.
It is critical that people learn how relationships between the urban public and the people who make their life on the land are key to their survival. Note that the Agenda 21 creates a self-contained prison capable of mass-extermination at the flip of a switch: No water, no power, no sewerage, no fuel, and surrounded by a "greenbelt" infested with hostile animals. Where would you go? Whom would you expect to find?
LBJ worked for FDR. FDR worked for Woodrow Wilson. The evil goes waaaaaaaay back, folks.
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You got that right! It goes WAAAAAAY back. And, although it precedes W. Wilson, in my opinion the creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913 (by Wilson and other RATS) is what finally locked it into the U.S.
...or maybe it was the results of the Civil War that helped centralize federal power....
I found the video and i am familiar with every subject Rosa spoke about. If you can figure out how to get every FReeper familiar with Agenda 21 and the redevelopment government in their communities I would be most appreciative.
Where Rosa and I differ is she is trying to shut down a finger of the UN, Agenda 21, I want to start at the head and kill the UN.
I don’t believe anyone would disagree with that wish. I have wished for most of my life that the U.N. did not exist. But I think Rosa is attacking the problem where we can all make somewhat of an impact. At least if we are aware of the plan, we can more readily attack it at the local levels. We can only lobby the powers in WA to do away with the U.N.
My thoughts are why attempt to control one finger of an attacker when the problem is that he is using all ten fingers to harm you. Don’t think cutting his hands off will solve your problem because he still has feet with which to kick you, cut his head off if you want peace.
Agreed, but how do you cut off the head? I wish I knew the answer to that.
All I’m trying to say, albeit perhaps poorly, is that God does want us to pray. We are instructed in the Bible to pray without ceasing. He gave us that instruction for a reason. I simply deduce it has a relevant place in His plan. I’m not constraining God. I’m trying to be obedient. Absolutely, at all times I agree that the appropriate prayer is “Thy Will be done.”
Courtesy ping to the END TIMES list.
Thanks for the ping!
Here are a couple of articles which you might find relevant to our studies:
Attacks on Israel
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43490717/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/
Does Executive Order brings Hamas to our shores?
http://www.thefederalregister.com/d.p/2009-02-04-E9-2488
Unexpected Urgent Refugee and Migration Needs Related To Gaza
Memorandum for the Secretary of State
By the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, including section 2(c)(1) of the Migration and Refugee Assistance Act of 1962 (the ``Act’’), as amended (22 U.S.C. 2601), I hereby determine, pursuant to section 2(c)(1) of the Act, that it is important to the national interest to furnish assistance under the Act in an amount not to exceed $20.3 million from the United States Emergency Refugee and Migration Assistance Fund for the purpose of meeting unexpected and urgent refugee and migration needs, including by contributions to international, governmental, and nongovernmental organizations and payment of administrative expenses of Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration of the Department of State, related to humanitarian needs of Palestinian refugees and conflict victims in Gaza.
You are authorized and directed to publish this memorandum in the Federal Register.
(Presidential Sig.)
THE WHITE HOUSE,
Washington, January 27, 2009
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Herman Cain may be the answer. I’m not sure.
Thanks for the links!
I found further information on that matter regarding the EO bringing Palestinian refugees here.
I ran into an email recently that says that HB1388 was passed presumably to enable the EO. According some sources, this is bogus. So now I am wondering if the link I have posted for the above referred to EO is also bogus.
I am seeking the truth here, and do want to have accurate information. I no longer trust SNOPES but dont know of an accurate place to go to verify urban legend issues.
Here are two of the links I found regarding this story:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1388
Says HB1388 passed in 2009 but did not discuss the contents of the bill
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100606185411AAPoBlr
Says the hoopla about HR1388 is urban legend regarding resettling Hamas.
Thanks for the additional information!
Frankly I don’t care if it’s urban legend or not if it helps to keep people’s eyes open to things that come out of this W.H.
LOL! I tend to agree, but I do want to be accurate as possible in my postings!
You are welcome! Good to see you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzEEgtOFFlM&feature=share
Agenda 21 for Dummies.....great explanation....diabolical!!!
There is a lot of information here:http://sovereignty.net/
Good to see you, too, dear TEXOKIE!
Look at the year.
Ehrlich, P. R., A. H. Ehrlich, and J. P. Holdren. 1977. Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment. W.H. Freeman, San Francisco.
Ehrlich, P. R., and J. P. Holdren. 1971. Impact of population growth. Science 171: 1212-1217.
Referenced @ http://dieoff.org/page112.htm
By the way, I know about this crap because of my attendance at a presentation on carrying capacity as it affects tourism....in the late 1970s. Environmental Science has ALWAYS been about Agenda 21, as in, the 21st Century, AKA, the Weathermen’s manifesto.
One more for the road. Here is the Agenda: http://jayhanson.us/index.html
Some great graphics and charts, though—one, toward the bottom, is interactive.
This is scary stuff. We need to keep this thread alive someplace and keep it up to date. I think the Freedom 21 site will be helpful too. Repeal the 17th. That sounds like a magnificent goal for the Tea Party.
You might be interested in this:
Bill Ayers only wanted to kill, what, 25 million to make sure his revolution took hold? These people want to kill 75% of the population? Ayers is a piker!
Thank you so much for the link. Unfortunately, when I tried to use it, all I got was a header and a blank page.
Thank you for reminding us of the Erhlich work. Now that you mention it, I recall my mom reading Ehrlich’s book “Population Bomb” in the 70’s. She was a good Christian conservative, and was swayed by it. I read it too. It wasn’t until I went to a pro life lecture in the 80’s and I heard a refutation and challenge of it that I realized I had also bought into his notions. I had not made the connection with the concept of our topic, Agenda 21.
I can see how the environmentalists have always been about the control of free peoples.
To all who have been responding with your posts. THANK YOU!! I am getting the education I asked for. I want to particularly bring to your attention the new EO that antisocial has brought to our attention.
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As I post this, I am wondering about section 10 in which he revoked an EO from 2004. What did he revoke?
The White House
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release
July 19, 2010
Executive Order—Stewardship of the Ocean, Our Coasts, and the Great Lakes
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered as follows:
Section 1. Purpose. The ocean, our coasts, and the Great Lakes provide jobs, food, energy resources, ecological services, recreation, and tourism opportunities, and play critical roles in our Nation’s transportation, economy, and trade, as well as the global mobility of our Armed Forces and the maintenance of international peace and security. The Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico and resulting environmental crisis is a stark reminder of how vulnerable our marine environments are, and how much communities and the Nation rely on healthy and resilient ocean and coastal ecosystems. America’s stewardship of the ocean, our coasts, and the Great Lakes is intrinsically linked to environmental sustainability, human health and well-being, national prosperity, adaptation to climate and other environmental changes, social justice, international diplomacy, and national and homeland security.
This order adopts the recommendations of the Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force, except where otherwise provided in this order, and directs executive agencies to implement those recommendations under the guidance of a National Ocean Council. Based on those recommendations, this order establishes a national policy to ensure the protection, maintenance, and restoration of the health of ocean, coastal, and Great Lakes ecosystems and resources, enhance the sustainability of ocean and coastal economies, preserve our maritime heritage, support sustainable uses and access, provide for adaptive management to enhance our understanding of and capacity to respond to climate change and ocean acidification, and coordinate with our national security and foreign policy interests.
This order also provides for the development of coastal and marine spatial plans that build upon and improve existing Federal, State, tribal, local, and regional decisionmaking and planning processes. These regional plans will enable a more integrated, comprehensive, ecosystem-based, flexible, and proactive approach to planning and managing sustainable multiple uses across sectors and improve the conservation of the ocean, our coasts, and the Great Lakes.
Sec. 2. Policy. (a) To achieve an America whose stewardship ensures that the ocean, our coasts, and the Great Lakes are healthy and resilient, safe and productive, and understood and treasured so as to promote the well-being, prosperity, and security of present and future generations, it is the policy of the United States to:
•(i) protect, maintain, and restore the health and biological diversity of ocean, coastal, and Great Lakes ecosystems and resources;
•(ii) improve the resiliency of ocean, coastal, and Great Lakes ecosystems, communities, and economies;
•(iii) bolster the conservation and sustainable uses of land in ways that will improve the health of ocean, coastal, and Great Lakes ecosystems;
•(iv) use the best available science and knowledge to inform decisions affecting the ocean, our coasts, and the Great Lakes, and enhance humanity’s capacity to understand, respond, and adapt to a changing global environment;
•(v) support sustainable, safe, secure, and productive access to, and uses of the ocean, our coasts, and the Great Lakes;
•(vi) respect and preserve our Nation’s maritime heritage, including our social, cultural, recreational, and historical values;
•(vii) exercise rights and jurisdiction and perform duties in accordance with applicable international law, including respect for and preservation of navigational rights and freedoms, which are essential for the global economy and international peace and security;
•(viii) increase scientific understanding of ocean, coastal, and Great Lakes ecosystems as part of the global interconnected systems of air, land, ice, and water, including their relationships to humans and their activities;
•(ix) improve our understanding and awareness of changing environmental conditions, trends, and their causes, and of human activities taking place in ocean, coastal, and Great Lakes waters; and
•(x) foster a public understanding of the value of the ocean, our coasts, and the Great Lakes to build a foundation for improved stewardship.
(b) The United States shall promote this policy by:
•(i) ensuring a comprehensive and collaborative framework for the stewardship of the ocean, our coasts, and the Great Lakes that facilitates cohesive actions across the Federal Government, as well as participation of State, tribal, and local authorities, regional governance structures, nongovernmental organizations, the public, and the private sector;
•(ii) cooperating and exercising leadership at the international level;
•(iii) pursuing the United States’ accession to the Law of the Sea Convention; and
•(iv) supporting ocean stewardship in a fiscally responsible manner.
Sec. 3. Definitions. As used in this order:
(a) “Final Recommendations” means the Final Recommendations of the Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force that shall be made publicly available and for which a notice of public availability shall be published in the Federal Register.
(b) The term “coastal and marine spatial planning” means a comprehensive, adaptive, integrated, ecosystem-based, and transparent spatial planning process, based on sound science, for analyzing current and anticipated uses of ocean, coastal, and Great Lakes areas. Coastal and marine spatial planning identifies areas most suitable for various types or classes of activities in order to reduce conflicts among uses, reduce environmental impacts, facilitate compatible uses, and preserve critical ecosystem services to meet economic, environmental, security, and social objectives. In practical terms, coastal and marine spatial planning provides a public policy process for society to better determine how the ocean, our coasts, and Great Lakes are sustainably used and protected — now and for future generations.
(c) The term “coastal and marine spatial plans” means the plans that are certified by the National Ocean Council as developed in accordance with the definition, goals, principles, and process described in the Final Recommendations.
Sec. 4. Establishment of National Ocean Council. (a) There is hereby established the National Ocean Council (Council).
(b) The Council shall consist of the following:
•(i) the Chair of the Council on Environmental Quality and the Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy, who shall be the Co-Chairs of the Council;
•(ii) the Secretaries of State, Defense, the Interior, Agriculture, Health and Human Services, Commerce, Labor, Transportation, Energy, and Homeland Security, the Attorney General, the Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency, the Director of the Office of Management and Budget, the Under Secretary of Commerce for Oceans and Atmosphere (Administrator of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration), the Administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, the Director of National Intelligence, the Director of the National Science Foundation, and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff;
•(iii) the National Security Advisor and the Assistants to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism, Domestic Policy, Energy and Climate Change, and Economic Policy;
•(iv) an employee of the Federal Government designated by the Vice President; and
•(v) such other officers or employees of the Federal Government as the Co-Chairs of the Council may from time to time designate.
(c) The Co-Chairs shall invite the participation of the Chairman of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, to the extent consistent with the Commission’s statutory authorities and legal obligations, and may invite the participation of such other independent agencies as the Council deems appropriate.
(d) The Co-Chairs of the Council, in consultation with the National Security Advisor and the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism, shall regularly convene and preside at meetings of the Council, determine its agenda, direct its work, and, as appropriate to address particular subject matters, establish and direct committees of the Council that shall consist exclusively of members of the Council.
(e) A member of the Council may designate, to perform committee functions of the member, any person who is within such member’s department, agency, or office and who is (i) an officer of the United States appointed by the President, (ii) a member of the Senior Executive Service or the Senior Intelligence Service, (iii) a general officer or flag officer, or (iv) an employee of the Vice President.
(f) Consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations, the Office of Science and Technology Policy and the Council on Environmental Quality shall provide the Council with funding, including through the National Science and Technology Council or the Office of Environmental Quality. The Council on Environmental Quality shall, to the extent permitted by law and subject to the availability of appropriations, provide administrative support necessary to implement this order.
(g) The day-to-day operations of the Council shall be administered by a Director and a Deputy Director, who shall supervise a full-time staff to assist the Co-Chairs in their implementation of this order.
Sec. 5. Functions of the Council. (a) The Council shall have the structure and function and operate as defined in the Final Recommendations. The Council is authorized, after the Council’s first year of operation, to make modifications to its structure, function, and operations to improve its effectiveness and efficiency in furthering the policy set forth in section 2 of this order.
(b) To implement the policy set forth in section 2 of this order, the Council shall provide appropriate direction to ensure that executive departments’, agencies’, or offices’ decisions and actions affecting the ocean, our coasts, and the Great Lakes will be guided by the stewardship principles and national priority objectives set forth in the Final Recommendations, to the extent consistent with applicable law. The Council shall base its decisions on the consensus of its members. With respect to those matters in which consensus cannot be reached, the National Security Advisor shall coordinate with the Co-Chairs and, as appropriate, the Assistants to the President for Energy and Climate Change, and Economic Policy, and the employee of the United States designated by the Vice President, subject to the limitations set forth in section 9 of this order, to present the disputed issue or issues for decision by the President.
Sec. 6. Agency Responsibilities. (a) All executive departments, agencies, and offices that are members of the Council and any other executive department, agency, or office whose actions affect the ocean, our coasts, and the Great Lakes shall, to the fullest extent consistent with applicable law:
•(i) take such action as necessary to implement the policy set forth in section 2 of this order and the stewardship principles and national priority objectives as set forth in the Final Recommendations and subsequent guidance from the Council; and
•(ii) participate in the process for coastal and marine spatial planning and comply with Council certified coastal and marine spatial plans, as described in the Final Recommendations and subsequent guidance from the Council.
(b)Each executive department, agency, and office that is required to take actions under this order shall prepare and make publicly available an annual report including a concise description of actions taken by the agency in the previous calendar year to implement the order, a description of written comments by persons or organizations regarding the agency’s compliance with this order, and the agency’s response to such comments.
(c) Each executive department, agency, and office that is required to take actions under this order shall coordinate and contribute resources, as appropriate, to assist in establishing a common information management system as defined in the Final Recommendations and shall be held accountable for managing its own information assets by keeping them current, easily accessible, and consistent with Federal standards.
(d) To the extent permitted by law, executive departments, agencies, and offices shall provide the Council such information, support, and assistance as the Council, through the Co-Chairs, may request.
Sec. 7. Governance Coordinating Committee. The Council shall establish a Governance Coordinating Committee that shall consist of 18 officials from State, tribal, and local governments in accordance with the Final Recommendations. The Committee may establish subcommittees chaired by representatives of the Governance Coordinating Committee. These subcommittees may include additional representatives from State, tribal, and local governments, as appropriate to provide for greater collaboration and diversity of views.
Sec. 8. Regional Advisory Committees. The lead Federal department, agency, or office for each regional planning body established for the development of regional coastal and marine spatial plans, in consultation with their nonfederal co-lead agencies and membership of their regional planning body, shall establish such advisory committees under the Federal Advisory Committee Act, 5 U.S.C. App., as they deem necessary to provide information and to advise the regional planning body on the development of regional coastal and marine spatial plans to promote the policy established in section 2 of this order.
Sec. 9. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order, the establishment of the Council, and the Final Recommendations shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:
•(i) authority granted by law to an executive department or agency or the head thereof; or
•(ii) functions assigned by the President to the National Security Council or Homeland Security Council (including subordinate bodies) relating to matters affecting foreign affairs, national security, homeland security, or intelligence.
(b) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.
(c) In carrying out the provisions of this order and implementing the Final Recommendations, all actions of the Council and the executive departments, agencies, and offices that constitute it shall be consistent with applicable international law, including customary international law, such as that reflected in the Law of the Sea Convention.
(d) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.
Sec. 10. Revocation. Executive Order 13366 of December 17, 2004, is hereby revoked.
BARACK OBAMA
THE WHITE HOUSE, July 19, 2010.
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Here’s executive order 13366 - Bush
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13366
It’s interesting to put these two orders side by side.
With the Bush order it’s pretty cut and dry - you can extract whatever you think may be implied by the wording - but it looks like decent run-of-the-mill government spew.
Not with the Barry order, this sucker is chock full of guilt, shame, conjecture, biased conclusions, guesswork and steered forward-thinking prose
“the Erhlich work.”
Who’s tied up here, all that time ago, with John Holdren.
Please put me on your list. I just wish I could say that it’s a pleasure to follow this topic.
Nine Documents From The Last 89 Years You Should Be Aware Of,
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread721043/pg1
Have just read a little of it but it looks well worth archiving.
Remember . . . when individual folks destined to search for, submit to, cherich Almighty God seek other sources and champions, satan is happy to oblige.
Earth LIVE from space in HD!! Watch The VIDEO!! “Google Earth On Steroids!!”,
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread720836/pg1
Metallic taste in mouth now being reported in Japan and US west coast — Telltale sign of radiation,
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread716024/pg1
ASTEROID FLYBY: Newly-discovered asteroid 2011 MD will pass only 12,000 kilometers (7,500 miles) above Earth’s surface on Monday June 27 at about 9:30 a.m. EDT. NASA analysts say there is no chance the space rock will strike Earth. Nevertheless, the encounter is so close that Earth’s gravity will sharply alter the asteroid’s trajectory:
thanks for the ping, and do you have another list?
Thanks for the ping!
Thank you for the link to the Bush EO and your comments!
LOL! It’s quite the can of worms, isnt it???
You are on the list now.
Thanks for the links, Quix!
You are just a ray of sunshine, Quix! Dear God help us! Thanks for the information.
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