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City living marks the brain - Neuroscientists study social risk factor for mental illness.
Nature News ^ | 22 June 2011 | Alison Abbott

Posted on 06/22/2011 5:37:44 PM PDT by neverdem

Epidemiologists showed decades ago that people raised in cities are more prone to mental disorders than those raised in the countryside. But neuroscientists have avoided studying the connection, preferring to leave the disorderly realm of the social environment to social scientists. A paper in this issue of Nature represents a pioneering foray across that divide.

Using functional brain imaging, a group led by Andreas Meyer-Lindenberg of the University of Heidelberg's Central Institute of Mental Health in Mannheim, Germany, showed that specific brain structures in people from the city and the countryside respond differently to social stress (see pages 452 and 498). Stress is a major factor in precipitating psychotic disorders such as schizophrenia.

The work is a first step towards defining how urban life can affect brain biology in a way that has a potentially major impact on society — schizophrenia affects one in 100 people. It may also open the way for greater cooperation between neuroscientists and social scientists. "There has been a long history of mutual antipathy, particularly in psychiatry," says sociologist Craig Morgan at the Institute of Psychiatry in London. "But this is the sort of study that can prove to both sides that they can gain from each others' insights."

Meyer-Lindenberg works on risk mechanisms in schizophrenia, and previously focused on the role of genes. But although a dozen or so genes have been linked to the disorder, "even the most powerful of these genes conveys only a 20% increased risk", he says. Yet schizophrenia is twice as common in those who are city-born and raised as in those from the countryside, and the bigger the city, the higher the risk (see 'Dose response?').

SOURCE: C. B. PEDERSEN & P. B. MORTENSEN ARCH. GEN...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Testing
KEYWORDS: fmri; godsgravesglyphs; mentalhealth; schizophrenia; stress

1 posted on 06/22/2011 5:37:48 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
I must get out of the city.


2 posted on 06/22/2011 5:40:03 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: neverdem
"I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health and the liberties of man. True, they nourish some of the elegant arts; but the useful ones can thrive elsewhere; and less perfection in the others, with more health, virtue and freedom, would be my choice."

-Thomas Jefferson.
3 posted on 06/22/2011 5:41:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: neverdem

Well that would explain NYC.


4 posted on 06/22/2011 5:47:10 PM PDT by MissMack99 (BO Stinks!)
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To: neverdem

IMO, Mental illness is actually physical illness manifested in the brain and personality.


5 posted on 06/22/2011 5:50:45 PM PDT by tiki
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To: neverdem

Explains why so much of liberalism eminates from cities. Not just in America, but all over the world.

Some of us are old enough to remember the tail end of the hippy movement, back in 1969-1975 or ‘76, when all the hippies got it in their heads to “move out to the country.” They started communes, built domes and tree houses, got back to nature.

Now they want to force everyone back into cities. More wilderness for them, more misery for all the rest.


6 posted on 06/22/2011 5:57:32 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Steely Tom

I’ve always been curious about this. Does city living make people crazy, or do crazy people gravitate towards cities?


7 posted on 06/22/2011 6:04:57 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: neverdem

Finally real proof that liberals are crazy!


8 posted on 06/22/2011 6:07:09 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Steely Tom
Now they want to force everyone back into cities.

I've seen several MSM stories recently about how baby boomers are leaving the suburbs and moving downtown for retirement. I know absolutely ZERO people who have done this. I think it's total B.S. or maybe just in NYC and Wash DC where the MSM all live.

9 posted on 06/22/2011 6:08:48 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: neverdem

So will city dwellers now be considered handicapped, under the auspices of the ADA? Reparations one way or another.


10 posted on 06/22/2011 6:09:54 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: neverdem

Well it would explain why liberals on the coasts think the folks in the rural areas (especially in fly-over country) are backwards. The reality is that the majority of city dwellers are nuts. No common sense at all. Maybe that also explains why the Washington DCers become so loony after awhile. I think the mental illness actually does have a name - Potomac Fever.

Sorry, but this was too good to pass up.


11 posted on 06/22/2011 6:15:38 PM PDT by Gumdrop (quq)
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To: nascarnation

That is true, and it is smart, of course not many retirees are boomers.


12 posted on 06/22/2011 6:24:51 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: neverdem

LOL.... I sure didn’t need a neuroscientist to tell me that you city folks were crazy.


13 posted on 06/22/2011 6:36:13 PM PDT by Gator113 ("GAME ON." I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: boop
I’ve always been curious about this. Does city living make people crazy, or do crazy people gravitate towards cities?

I think it's some of both.

There is a lot more infrastructure to deal with mental illness in cities. Plus, there are a lot more "kindred spirits." Misery loves company.

14 posted on 06/22/2011 6:57:55 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: cripplecreek

Great quote! One for my file.


15 posted on 06/22/2011 7:04:07 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: neverdem

No surprise to us country folk.


16 posted on 06/22/2011 7:21:29 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: neverdem

An astute student of history and human nature, Thomas Jefferson, predicted what we see happening here in America. While a strong case can be made that the French aristocracy brought it upon themselves, as ambassador in France, he witnessed the run up to the FIRST socialist/communist revolution there. He penned the following observations concerning what would happen HERE should that socialism come to the United States. He CORRECTLY predicted that we would become an increasingly contentious and litigious people as we shouldered one another out of the way to get OURS from the public trough and the trough would soon be empty.

He also knew where the bulk of the problem would originate.

That whirring noise you may hear coming from that mountain in Charlottesville, Virginia is Mr. Jefferson getting up to around 3600 RPM.

(A 6 minute video with this information may be seen at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypLu49pq3bI)

As I understand it, at the time of the drafting of the Declaration, Mr. Jefferson originally wrote “…Life, Liberty and PROPERTY…” (meaning that one’s right to freely acquire, use and dispose of his property – to the extent doing so did not violate the same to others – was a Creator endowed right. Because slavery viewed humans as property, the phrase “Pursuit of Happiness” was adopted instead to avoid – at least for the time being — the inevitable debate on that subject.

“The mobs of the great cities add just so much to the support of pure government as sores do to the strength of the human body. It is the manners and spirit of a people which preserve a republic in vigor. A degeneracy in these is a canker which soon eats to the heart of its laws and constitution.” —Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia Q.XIX, 1782. ME 2:230

“I think our governments will remain virtuous for many centuries as long as they are chiefly agricultural; and this will be as long as there shall be vacant lands in any part of America. When they get piled upon one another in large cities as in Europe, they will become corrupt as in Europe.” —Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1787. Papers 12:442

“I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health and the liberties of man. True, they nourish some of the elegant arts; but the useful ones can thrive elsewhere; and less perfection in the others, with more health, virtue and freedom, would be my choice.” —Thomas Jefferson to Benjamin Rush, 1800. ME 10:173

“Our cities... exhibit specimens of London only; our country is a different nation.” —Thomas Jefferson to Andre de Daschkoff, 1809. ME 12:304

“Everyone, by his property or by his satisfactory situation, is interested in the support of law and order. And such men may safely and advantageously reserve to themselves a wholesome control over their public affairs and a degree of freedom which, in the hands of the canaille of the cities of Europe, would be instantly perverted to the demolition and destruction of everything public and private.” —Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1813. ME 13:401

“An insurrection... of science, talents, and courage, against rank and birth... has failed in its first effort, because the mobs of the cities, the instrument used for its accomplishment, debased by ignorance, poverty, and vice, could not be restrained to rational action. But the world will recover from the panic of this first catastrophe.” —Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1813. ME 13:402

“I fear nothing for our liberty from the assaults of force; but I have seen and felt much, and fear more from English books, English prejudices, English manners, and the apes, the dupes, and designs among our professional crafts. When I look around me for security against these seductions, I find it in the wide spread of our agricultural citizens, in their unsophisticated minds, their independence and their power, if called on, to crush the Humists of our cities, and to maintain the principles which severed us from England.” —Thomas Jefferson to Horatio G. Spafford, 1814. ME 14:120


17 posted on 06/22/2011 8:18:04 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: cripplecreek

I lived in NYC many years ago for about a year and a half and it made me go crazy - I hated it!


18 posted on 06/22/2011 8:28:32 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: neverdem

Interesting, only an ocean and half a century separate these two paintings. Urban isolation can be very disturbing to the psyche.

19 posted on 06/22/2011 9:41:41 PM PDT by Oratam
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20 posted on 06/23/2011 4:58:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: neverdem
Just look at TV shows like, “Seinfeld” “Cheers” “Friends” etc.

Those characters weren't portrayed as insane for nothing.

21 posted on 06/23/2011 5:16:23 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: neverdem

Big cities are human ant farms. I had an ant farm when I was little. I’ll never live in a big city.


22 posted on 06/23/2011 5:18:43 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: MissMack99

And Boston and Washington, D.C., and Seattle, and San Francisco, etc.

Makes sense to me.


23 posted on 06/23/2011 7:07:18 AM PDT by ZULU (Lindsey Graham is a nanometrical pustule of pusillanimous putrescence)
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To: SunkenCiv

Urban living promotes hypervigilance which comes in handy when you move to the desert or the forest and need to watch out for spiders and snakes. I’ll take s&s over urban predators any day.


24 posted on 06/23/2011 8:12:09 AM PDT by Silentgypsy (You know if I don’t remember I’m gonna forget.)
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To: tiki
IMO, Mental illness is actually physical illness manifested in the brain and personality.

I struggled for years with my father's suicide. Dad wasn't obviously or overtly "mentally ill" but was suffering from depression, nobody else in the family knew to what extent.

I got a greater understanding and a degree of acceptance when I was confronted with such physical pain of my own that I preferred death. Not that I contemplated suicide but did indeed prefer to be dead rather than suffer any more. It hit me like a ton of bricks that there are people who suffer mentally to that extent.

I'm not justifying suicide but trying to better understanding it.

25 posted on 06/23/2011 8:31:54 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: nascarnation
I've seen several MSM stories recently about how baby boomers are leaving the suburbs and moving downtown for retirement.

I have lived in a small town most of my life and if I live to the 29th of this month, I'll be 66 years old and I want to move to a more rural area. I'd like it as long as I lived within 20-30 miles of "necessity" shopping.

26 posted on 06/23/2011 8:36:27 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Oratam

The name of this painting is, The Glass of Absinthe.


27 posted on 06/23/2011 11:08:31 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: SatinDoll

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28 posted on 01/12/2012 11:05:02 AM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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