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What’s a Neoconservative?
American Conservative ^ | 06/23/2011 | Jack Hunter

Posted on 06/23/2011 7:01:43 AM PDT by Hawk720

My father suggested to me recently that it might be helpful to better explain what the term “neoconservative” means. “A lot of people don’t know,” he said. As usual, Dad was right. Though decades old, the mainstream use of the word neoconservative is relatively new. I mentally filed away my father’s suggestion agreeing that a layman’s explanation of “neoconservative” might be helpful when the time was right. The time is right—as the American intervention in Libya has drawn a clearer line between neoconservatives and conventional Republicans than any event in recent memory.

The “neocons” believe American greatness is measured by our willingness to be a great power—through vast and virtually unlimited global military involvement. Other nations’ problems invariably become our own because history and fate have designated America the world’s top authority.

Critics say the US cannot afford to be the world’s policeman. Neoconservatives not only say that we can but we must—and that we will cease to be America if we don’t. Writes Boston Globe neoconservative columnist Jeff Jacoby: “Our world needs a policeman. And whether most Americans like it or not, only their indispensable nation is fit for the job.” Neocon intellectual Max Boot says explicitly that the US should be the world’s policeman because we are the best policeman.

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) heartily champions the neoconservative view. While virtually every other recognizably Tea Party congressman or senator opposes the Libyan intervention, Rubio believes the world’s top cop should be flashing its Sherriff’s badge more forcefully in Libya—and everywhere else. New York Times columnist Ross Douthat explains:

“Rubio is the great neoconservative hope, the champion of a foreign policy that boldly goes abroad in search of monsters to destroy…"

(Excerpt) Read more at amconmag.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amconmag; americandhimmi; interventionists; neocons; rubio; tac

1 posted on 06/23/2011 7:01:45 AM PDT by Hawk720
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To: Hawk720

Someone needs to point out that the goal of the elitists, be they leftists or neocons,

is “neo-feudalism”,

a system in which they control all the wealth, resources, means of travel, etc,

and the “serfs” are denied all of these freedoms.


2 posted on 06/23/2011 7:03:18 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Hawk720

A war mongering socialist?


3 posted on 06/23/2011 7:03:42 AM PDT by Grunthor
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To: Hawk720

To Pat Buchanan and his “American Conservative” magazine thugs, a neoconservative is anyone who thinks that the Jews should be able to stay alive.

Jew baiters need to go straight back to Hell where they came from.


4 posted on 06/23/2011 7:07:59 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: Hawk720

I always find it interesting when someone tries to define terms like this. It would be nice if there was a universally accepted definition, but there isn’t.


5 posted on 06/23/2011 7:10:33 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Hawk720

This article is silliness. No rational Conservative opposed the containment policy during the Cold War, only liberals did. The implication is that there is less need for foreign involvement now, but how can this view be justified? Are we in less peril now because its a bunch of radical islamists and Chinese imperialists that hate us, as opposed to the Russkies?


6 posted on 06/23/2011 7:12:47 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: dinoparty

Indeed, “Neo-con” is code for Jews.


7 posted on 06/23/2011 7:13:39 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: dinoparty

Indeed, “Neo-con” is code for Jews.


8 posted on 06/23/2011 7:13:48 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: massgopguy

Da Jooooos!


9 posted on 06/23/2011 7:18:10 AM PDT by GOPyouth ("We're buying shrimp, guys. Come on." - Dear Leader)
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To: Hawk720
Feh ...

"Neocon", "antisemite", "homophobe", "racist", and a host of other, similar, hackneyed pejoratives are code-words for "people I disagree with and dislike". They may once have meant something (not always), but any objective meaning they may once have had has been obliterated by over-use, misuse, and abuse.

10 posted on 06/23/2011 7:19:29 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Hawk720
What’s a Neoconservative?

Pretty much whatever the person using the word wants it to mean, and not much else.

11 posted on 06/23/2011 7:22:18 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Tea Party: 'Give us our country back.' - GOP: 'Give us our power back.' Two very different things..)
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To: Hawk720
Back before it was appropriated by the socialist-progressives, a "liberal" was someone who believed that the government should have a minimal role in people's lives. In matters of economics, the government should have none. The liberals dominated 19th century western politics, but around the time of WWI, their influence began to wane.

A newer generation of so-called neo-liberals rose to influence. They included Milton Friedman and F.A. Hayek. Though, insisting that the markets be left free to set prices and determine production, they believed that it was the role of government to consciously create an environment that would allow business to flourish while controlling what they saw as capitalism's potential flaws.

I see neo-cons in the same light. Though agreeing with many conservative principles, they espouse a larger role for government than traditional conservatives. This is true both in foreign policy and domestic economic policy.

When I hear "neo", I think big government.

12 posted on 06/23/2011 7:23:18 AM PDT by BfloGuy (Money, like chocolate on a hot oven, was melting in the pockets of the people.)
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To: dinoparty
This article is silliness. No rational Conservative opposed the containment policy during the Cold War, only liberals did. The implication is that there is less need for foreign involvement now, but how can this view be justified? Are we in less peril now because its a bunch of radical islamists and Chinese imperialists that hate us, as opposed to the Russkies?

The difference is that the Soviet Union was a monolithic expansionist power with the capability and opportunity to become a continental hegemon. Had we not intervened in Europe they would have attained it with negative results for us.

China is not yet to that point. But I fear that if we follow the neoconservative path, we will be exhausted as a nation when the time comes that we have to do serious balancing against China as we did against the USSR.

Radical Islam and the Middle East is not a monolith but a mix of often competing groups. Between Israelis, Persians and Arabs, Sunni and Shiite, the locals of the Middle East are quite capable of finding and sustaining a balance of power while requiring a whole lot less intervention from the USA.

13 posted on 06/23/2011 7:32:53 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: EternalVigilance

Exactly.

There is no body of neocon doctrine to which aspiring members must pledge themselves before being allowed to join.

Back in the 80s and 90s, if I recall correctly, neocon referred to a considerable group of ex-liberal pundits who had switched sides, many if not most of them Jewish. Their focus was largely on failed domestic policies, especially with regard to crime. I don’t remember any particular foreign policy or interventionist slant.

It would be interesting to see how the perception of a desire to be global policeman became associated with “neocon.”


14 posted on 06/23/2011 7:43:07 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

You make some good points. I would dispute your last paragraph especially, though. How can Israel, for instance, create a workable balance with its regional enemies when those enemies are irrational and developing nukes? Imagine Iran without a US presence in Iraq and Afghansitan currently.

Also, one cannot forget that during the Cold War not only did we contain from a military/strategic standpoint, but we also contained an idealogy — or perhaps more accurately — we introduced and buttressed freedom in regions that previously had not had it, and in so doing developed long term allies.


15 posted on 06/23/2011 7:53:11 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: BfloGuy
The liberals dominated 19th century western politics, but around the time of WWI, their influence began to wane.

Timeline slightly off. At least in the USA, "progressives" who explicitly stated the Constitution had failed and we needed to replace it with more rational government mechanisms, got a tremendous amount of influence in the 1890s and first part of 1900s.

TR was the first Progressive president, Wilson was the second.

16 posted on 06/23/2011 7:55:29 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Hawk720

Neoconservatives are primarily socially liberal hawks. Almost to a man they have done everything possible to avoid serving in the military as have their children. Next to liberals they are the greatest danger to our country.


17 posted on 06/23/2011 7:57:52 AM PDT by bwc2221
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To: massgopguy
Karl Rove, Fred Barnes, Matthew Continetti John McCain, Lucy Graham and Stephen Hayes are Jews? Could have fooled me.

Quit playing the “race card.”

18 posted on 06/23/2011 8:03:44 AM PDT by bwc2221
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To: iowamark
"To Pat Buchanan and his “American Conservative” magazine thugs, a neoconservative is anyone who thinks that the Jews should be able to stay alive.:

Get real. Buchanan put USA's interests before every country including Israel. To some that's anti-Jewish.

19 posted on 06/23/2011 8:12:28 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: dinoparty
I think a lot of that irrationality is made possible by the US maintaining the balance as a lone Atlas. With the US acting in a lesser role, the states in the Middle East would not have the luxury of spewing their venom against their natural ally Israel against the Iranian menace.

And even Iran has positive effects they can provide us. They are no friends of al-Qaeda and the Taliban and they are a whole lot closer to Afghanistan than we are.

20 posted on 06/23/2011 8:15:24 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Hawk720

Neoconservatism is the belief it is our best interest in spreading democracy, or preferred form of government through force if need be. It is also what killed the Roman Empire as they spread themselves too thin trying to “Romanize” the barbarian world. I admit I fell for it under the Bush leadership (I followed his administration off a cliff), but now will oppose it going forward. The goal of war should be to defeat the enemy and/or take resources, not to build nations.


21 posted on 06/23/2011 8:20:32 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Hawk720

Neo-conservatives didn’t start out as conservatives.

They started out as Marxists, who then got disaffected by Stalinism.

So they basically oppose totalitarianism and have Messianic drive to spread American democracy everywhere.

Most of their policies have been utter disasters.

Americans need to stop worrying about what other people are doing and start taking care of this country.

We can’t even defend our own borders and ports.

We spend trillions on rebuilding countries who hate us, but won’t spend a nickel on the border or own people.

Neoconservatives have the cash for nation building abroad but none for our own people.

Yeah, that is brilliant.


22 posted on 06/23/2011 8:57:31 AM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: Hawk720

Don’t you first need a Legal President to have a strong military?


23 posted on 06/23/2011 9:06:10 AM PDT by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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To: Hawk720

Neoconservative = Interventionist . Anyone who disagrees with an Interventionist is an Isolationist. If that doesn’t shut you up, you will find there are worse names they can use to discredit you.


24 posted on 06/23/2011 9:06:25 AM PDT by ngat
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To: Hawk720

Hunter doesn’t actually know what neoconservatism is. He simply declares it to be a certain foreign policy. That’s bowdlerized garbage. Then again Hunter’s job at The American Dhimmi is to attack Neocons and try to get in bed with any leftist he can with his post-conservative shtick.


25 posted on 06/23/2011 10:23:22 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Grunthor

“A war mongering socialist?”

Ding-ding-ding. Winnar!


26 posted on 06/23/2011 10:48:34 AM PDT by CowboyJay
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