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Family dog attacks mom and daughter other children hide in closet in fear
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Posted on 06/23/2011 3:53:48 PM PDT by Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

OXFORD, Mich. (WXYZ) - A mother and daughter are being treated for bites after the family pit bull went on the attack.

The Oakland County Sheriff's Department says a mother and daughter were arguing early Thursday morning inside their home in Oxford Township. That's when the family dog attacked the daughter. The mother then tried to pull the pit bull away and was also attacked.

Three other children inside the home locked themselves in a closet to keep to hide from the vicious dog.

When deputies arrived at the home the mother was on the porch and the dog was still inside the home. One deputy approached the animal which started growling and showing its teeth. The deputy was forced to shoot the dog which ran out the door. It was later found outside the home and was put down.

An Oakland County Animal Control officer found a second pit bull inside and removed it from the home.

The 39-year-old mother and 16-year-old daughter were treated at Pontiac Osteopathic Hospital and released, the children inside the home were not injured.


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1 posted on 06/23/2011 3:53:51 PM PDT by Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

Another “cop shoots dog” story.


2 posted on 06/23/2011 3:56:05 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

“Another “cop shoots dog” story”

No. Another pitt bull goes crazy story. Happened to a good friend.


4 posted on 06/23/2011 3:59:43 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Inyo-Mono

No, I am not Chet99. Stop it.


5 posted on 06/23/2011 4:00:36 PM PDT by Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage (Don't Tweet your meat or you lose your seat!!)
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

Gee, a pit bull. What a surprise.


6 posted on 06/23/2011 4:02:12 PM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

Sounds like a messed up family to me. I do know that some dogs get overly excited if there is fighting... not sure if they feel they have to defend the Alpha or what? We only had one incident involving a dog of ours. My teen son was playing with his youngest sister and picked her up to put her on his shoulders. She was giggling and screaming but the dog seemed overly tense at that moment. He was interpreting the screams as one of fear and not laughing. Once I stepped in, it was over but dogs see things differently.


7 posted on 06/23/2011 4:03:14 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

What does it mean when I read a title like this and immediately say to myself, “I’ll bet it was a pit bull” and I am almost ALWAYS right. I catch myself doing it with crimes too. “Bet it was a black man.” for some and hispanic and white for others. And when I read a headline about a teacher having sex with a student I say, “I’ll bet it was a female teacher.” and so far the last five years I’m batting 1000 on that one.

Actually, I’m pretty much at 1000 on all of them. I’ve got stereotyping down to a science. ;-)


8 posted on 06/23/2011 4:03:27 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RobRoy

You may call it “stereotyping”, but I’m right there with you and I call it “experience”.


10 posted on 06/23/2011 4:06:05 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

My niece has two pit bulls. The last time I visited her(they live far away), the male freaked me out. He stood in front of me and barked the whole time. My sister said, oh that’s odd, Tango never does that to anyone else. I could feel the hair stand up on the back of my head. I tried very hard to just stay calm and not think of what might happen. After I left I thought, I will never go back there again while that dog is alive.


11 posted on 06/23/2011 4:06:26 PM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: muawiyah

I’m sorry but there are so many wonderful “family” breeds that are terrific pets with children, elderly etc.

Why do people insist on owning a breed with a fairly documented track record of aggressiveness and unpredictability, especially when not trained properly.

You woudn’t keep a loaded gun on the coffee table with kids roaming, the same applies to certain breeds of dogs.


12 posted on 06/23/2011 4:07:34 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: RightOnline

Ditto that!!!


13 posted on 06/23/2011 4:08:27 PM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

I have a Bull Mastiff.

It is also not advisable to fight around a Bull Mastiff.

They are there to protect and defend and are unsure what to do when two people they are supposed to defend are fighting each other.

But unlike a Pit Bull, they will tackle and subdue - not fight to the death.

My brother was rough housing with his wife. He had done so before and the dog was mostly “Alpha male fighting with Alpha female - I am low raking female and I stay out of it”. Then one day the dog wasn’t having it - she put her mouth on my brothers arm and put herself between them - obviously protective of his wife. Unknown to either of them - but possibly not the dog - wife was pregnant.

New policy was “Pregnant alpha female is protected against all, as the survival of the pack is no longer dependent upon the alpha male.”.

Notice please that the protective response didn’t lead to EITHER of them getting bit.

Pit Bulls are not a good breed of dog for such things as a family environment. More a junk yard dog or a ‘fight to the death’ dog than one that should be around a family that likes to fight.


14 posted on 06/23/2011 4:08:55 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: traderrob6

Totally agree!!! If you want a bigger aggressive breed, you best pay extra and get one from a good breeder.


15 posted on 06/23/2011 4:10:13 PM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: RobRoy

The female teacher one is “man bites dog” bias.

It isn’t even news when a male teacher does it anymore.

Almost all (over 90%) of sex related and/or violent crimes are committed by men.


16 posted on 06/23/2011 4:10:54 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: trisham
Chet99. So nice to see you again.

That's getting really old.

18 posted on 06/23/2011 4:12:13 PM PDT by Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage (Don't Tweet your meat or you lose your seat!!)
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

This is not exclusively pit bull behavior. What happened I imagine to be a combination of factors.

1) There was no clear chain of dominance among the people and the dogs. Dogs have a deep hierarchy order ingrained in them, so if people do not establish they are superior, the dog gets confused, and sometimes, even small dogs will think that they are superior and try to push people around.

2) Many dogs take on the role of “referee” or “umpire” when they see conflict between other dogs or even people. They will try and intervene to “bust it up”. This can become a strong behavior, and people will get bitten.

3) Combine these two and you might get a real problem. Two people argue, and the dog thinks that one is superior to them, and another is inferior to them. They may attack the inferior person for showing “insubordination” to their superior.

It is important for dog owners to be aware of this, no matter if they have a small dog or a big dog. Dogs are pack animals, and domestic dogs are bred to never achieve fully adult emotional behavior. So you end up with an animal that wants to belong, and also wants to know where it stands in relation to others, and it craves orderly, consistent rules.

If you can master this with a dog, you are well on your way to raising a child.


20 posted on 06/23/2011 4:14:47 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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“...oh that’s odd, Tango never does that to anyone else.”

Probably the last thing the owner says right before their dog rips into someone. Or after — “my dog has never done that before. They must have done something to provoke my dog.”


21 posted on 06/23/2011 4:15:48 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: allmendream

“... not advisable to fight around a Bull Mastiff”.

Sounds very similar to mine... dog got confused over protection when two of the people he was suppose to protect appeared to be fighting. I think it totally confuses the dog to the point that you aren’t 100% sure how he will react. I can imagine your brother’s surprise when he had a giant mouth put around his arm!!


22 posted on 06/23/2011 4:16:02 PM PDT by momtothree
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And there are varying degrees of what different breeds can do. A little phi-phi chihuahua can hurt and maybe even draw blood. But is is very unlikely that that dog will kill a person.

Other breeds are different. And some dogs are bred for their strength and power... and ultimately, their ability to incapacitate or even kill someone.

Oh ya, and last but not least, the idiot owner that does all of the wrong things that you list below. Dogs are domesticated but they are still animals with instincts and pack type behaviors.

24 posted on 06/23/2011 4:23:11 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: momtothree
Yes, she was rather new to the dog - and he had been her master for years. To find himself on the “outs” and the dog obviously protecting his wife was confusing to him - until he figured out that his wife was pregnant!

My dog has this attitude towards violence “I am the professional - leave it ALL to me, no violence is allowed in my presence. Violent behavior WILL be met with a tackle and subduing mouth around your throat.”

We were out for a walk and she got all antsy because a guy in his truck was fighting with his girlfriend. When he punctuated his argument by slamming his fist against her seat with three loud bangs - my dog went nuts. She did a leap that would have landed her in the front seat of his truck!

Luckily she was on leash and I pulled her back - but she was going in like Wonder Woman - to settle the matter.... conclusively!!!!

25 posted on 06/23/2011 4:26:11 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: RightOnline

Add profiling to the list .... I profile.


26 posted on 06/23/2011 4:26:22 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

:)


27 posted on 06/23/2011 4:26:44 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: allmendream
Lol. I remember my parents shihtzu. He was best buddies with my brother and whenever we'd push or punch my brother, that little furball was right there barking and biting us.
28 posted on 06/23/2011 4:27:01 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345
My mom had a female Australian Shepherd that didn't really like men.

My stepdad was rough housing with my sister (his daughter)when that dog jumped through the screen window and bit him on the butt!

Had to get rid of that dog!

29 posted on 06/23/2011 4:29:38 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: traderrob6
Why do people insist on owning a breed with a fairly documented track record of aggressiveness and unpredictability, especially when not trained properly.

Mystifying, isn't it? And ESPECIALLY around children!

30 posted on 06/23/2011 4:31:47 PM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

There is only one way to deal with a raging pit:

Wrap arm around neck tightly, and use other hand to completely plug nose.

The mutt will immediately release its jaws to breathe.

Just do not let go until the dog collapses from o2 starvation.


31 posted on 06/23/2011 4:33:59 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: allmendream

What is sort of funny is your dog HATES violence and is really peace loving. She’s just like 170 pounds of peace lovin’ fun!! Everyone will get along or I’ll settle it. LOL!!


33 posted on 06/23/2011 4:38:23 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: traderrob6
You woudn’t keep a loaded gun on the coffee table with kids roaming, the same applies to certain breeds of dogs.

I wouldn't keep any kind of dog on my coffee table.
34 posted on 06/23/2011 4:38:44 PM PDT by Krankor (Her voice was soft and cool, her eyes were clear and bright . But she's not there)
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To: Squantos

One has to any more in this country, right....sad as that may be.


35 posted on 06/23/2011 4:39:43 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
treated at Pontiac Osteopathic Hospital and released,

Faggot pit bull or a bunch of horse shit?

36 posted on 06/23/2011 4:42:25 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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Especially a loaded dog ! (couldn’t resist)


38 posted on 06/23/2011 4:43:06 PM PDT by onona (I stand with SARAH !)
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To: Slings and Arrows

“Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage”?!?

WTH?


39 posted on 06/23/2011 4:43:36 PM PDT by Salamander (I wear my sunglasses at night.)
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To: RightOnline

Survival skill in this era of political correctness IMO.

Hope yer well...stay safe.


40 posted on 06/23/2011 4:43:57 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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Years ago my husband and I trained our dog by roughhousing on the floor. Got the dog to listen to me. He only attacked once and that was at my normal voice saying *Get um mugs*. Hubbys friend came over and was laughing at his dog that ripped out the knee of hubbys jeans when passing him to get into the truck for hunting...

Said friend at the time was petting Mugsy. I got tired of listening to him laugh and said *get um mugs*. The dog was in his lap and on his face in a split second...stopped him laughing about his dog that had already bit the postman...When I said *down mugs*, immediately got off his lap and wagged his tail...scared the crap out of hubbys buddy....

At times me and all the kids (5) would get my husband on the floor and tickled him until he would be yelling I cannot breath..(due to laughing so hard). The dog was a protector of me and the kids....He was never agressive toward hubby after we all got up off the floor...It was fun...We were younger....

41 posted on 06/23/2011 4:45:07 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

You are an incredibly dog savvy person.


42 posted on 06/23/2011 4:48:19 PM PDT by Salamander (I wear my sunglasses at night.)
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“What does it mean when I read a title like this and immediately say to myself, “I’ll bet it was a pit bull” and I am almost ALWAYS right.”

Speciesism runs within your heart! LOL! Yes, it’s a real term! The wiki defines it as thus.

Speciesism is the assigning of different values or rights to beings on the basis of their species membership. The term was created by British psychologist Richard D. Ryder in 1973 to denote a prejudice against non-humans based on physical differences that are given moral value.

“I use the word ‘speciesism’,” he wrote in 1975, “to describe the widespread discrimination that is practised by man against other species ... Speciesism is discrimination, and like all discrimination it overlooks or underestimates the similarities between the discriminator and those discriminated against.”

The term is mostly used by animal rights advocates, who argue that it is irrational or morally wrong to regard sentient beings as objects or property.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciesism


43 posted on 06/23/2011 4:48:46 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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Hey, Salamander. :)


44 posted on 06/23/2011 4:49:35 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: traderrob6

Irish Wolfhounds are good with children and the elderly, plus if any predators, including wolves show up, the wolfhounds will shred them to pieces!


45 posted on 06/23/2011 4:50:42 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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Vanity Post: This may not be appropriate for a Freep dog thread, but in light of the advise here to find a good breeder; we have been trying to find a good breeder for female Shiloh Shepherd pup to be raised in Arizona by our loving family. There are NO such breeders in Arizona that we’ve been able to find. Everything we’ve read indicates it’s a great family / children friendly dog with a big shadow, lots of love, and a small ego. So far we have not been able to get any listed breeder to return our queries. It seems to be a “closed loop” circle of people who breed these animals, and has been a bit frustrating. If anyone happens to know a breeder of these wonderful dogs who would actually respond to our wish to acquire one, we would appreciate some help. We do understand and have planned for that it won’t be inexpensive. Thanks in advance.


47 posted on 06/23/2011 4:53:27 PM PDT by ri4dc (Cut your cable, Break Wind for the TSA, Flush Twice in 2012, ROTUS Meet the Hermanator)
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To: MsLady

“I will never go back there again while that dog is alive.”

Correct attitude, but if it was me, I would be able to go back the next day. Of course, if you told your niece you were going to kill her dog in the next 5 minutes if it did not start acting right, then she might not invite you back anyway.

What should happen is vicious/barking dogs should be hiding when you show up, either because the dog is smart or because the owners don’t want them, uh.., disciplined. I don’t whisper, the dog recognizes my attitude.

I have 8 dogs and I squirt them with a water pistol if they misbehave, started when they were pups. So if they bark, I just motion to the water bottle and they immediately shut up. Uncontrolled dogs should not be tolerated.


48 posted on 06/23/2011 4:53:51 PM PDT by TxDas (This above all, to thine ownself be true.)
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To: allmendream

I love this English mastiff story.

Burglar makes the mistake of choosing 22-stone (308 lbs.) mastiff’s home

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1025039/Burglar-makes-mistake-choosing-22-stone-mastiffs-home-rob.html

Of all the gardens in all the world, the thief had the bad luck to break into the one where Cromwell was peacefully gnawing on his bone.

The three-year-old English mastiff is a gentle pet. But his breed are also born guard dogs - and big ones at that.

Only the thief and Cromwell know exactly what happened next.


49 posted on 06/23/2011 4:54:57 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: dhs12345

I’m waiting for a story to appear in the headlines about a pack of feral and rabid chihuahuas mauling someone to death. Still waiting!


50 posted on 06/23/2011 4:57:45 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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