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Federal ATF chief said to resist pressure to step down
L.A. Times ^ | 6/23/11 | Richard A. Serrano, Washington Bureau

Posted on 06/23/2011 8:50:06 PM PDT by Nachum

Kenneth Melson of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms faces controversy over the agency's surveillance program that allowed U.S. guns into Mexico. He is said to be eager to testify to Congress.

The acting director of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is strongly resisting pressure to step down because of growing controversy over the agency's surveillance program that allowed U.S. guns to flow unchecked into Mexico, according to several federal sources in Washington.

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New song for the administration: Hide another mistake
1 posted on 06/23/2011 8:50:10 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/agenda21.htm

song:
Hide Another Mistake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JA1zZbvbZQ


2 posted on 06/23/2011 8:52:39 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

I guess the exit bonus and cushy corporate job weren’t a good enough offer.


3 posted on 06/23/2011 8:54:02 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (No one is more against progress than a progressive.)
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To: Nachum

If guys like this ever get the kind of government they seek to implement, he would have already been taken out and shot for having gotten caught.


4 posted on 06/23/2011 8:54:44 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (We are not governed. We are occupied.)
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To: Nachum
He is said to be eager to testify to Congress.

Fine. Hit him with a subpeona and put him under oath.

5 posted on 06/23/2011 8:55:04 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Nachum

Why not resist? The lsm isn’t going to prosecute this admin. The greatest threat this country faces is the lsm. Nothing else comes close.


6 posted on 06/23/2011 8:57:02 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: Nachum

Hang in there buddy, and stick it out!

Every single day that you are chief of this terrible agency, is all the better for those of us who desire to see it defunded and shutdown!


7 posted on 06/23/2011 8:58:03 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Nachum
Let him testify, he may hang some of the big boys.

There is no way Holder didn't approve this and it may even lead to Obama, the whole mess is exactly his style.

It is interesting that Rahm Emanuel decided to evacuate just in time.

8 posted on 06/23/2011 8:59:30 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Nachum
"He has told them, 'I'm not going to be the fall guy on this.' "

Apparently the approval for the program came from higher up. If he doesn't accidentally commit suicide, it may lead to Holder or even higher.

9 posted on 06/23/2011 9:06:16 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Breitbart for a Pulitzer Prize)
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To: Nachum

does he have security?


10 posted on 06/23/2011 9:07:21 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: famousdayandyear

The Obama Dead Pool

http://www.nachumlist.com/deadpool.htm


11 posted on 06/23/2011 9:08:45 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Looks like Obama’s “under the radar” work on gun control is starting to leave some blips on the radar screen.


12 posted on 06/23/2011 9:23:32 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin ("Credit is the ruination of a nation")
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To: oldbrowser

Yep. Bump! ;-)


13 posted on 06/23/2011 9:30:02 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Nachum

“He is said to be eager to testify to Congress.”

Hmmm, should I infer he thinks the ATF did nothing wrong? I mean, not illegal?

Of course, if he really wants to talk and can’t get “permission” couldn’t he resign and testify?

At least this story is getting some coverage in LA!


14 posted on 06/23/2011 9:49:47 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: TwoSwords

“Nothing else comes close.”

TwoSwords, you gotta remember the teachers’ unions. They are also right up there. Turning out mush-filled heads of much to be beguiled by the MSM in perpetuity.

If we could get rid of these 2 groups this country would flourish!

And, we are working on it; and, we must NEVER give up!


15 posted on 06/23/2011 9:52:39 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Nachum

ATF. Eliminate ASAP.


16 posted on 06/23/2011 9:54:30 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: jocon307

You’re right, the teachers at all levels are high on the list. But the media are the ultimate political police. People talk about the judiciary legislating from the bench but it wouldn’t happen if the media did their job. Nor would the teachers expouse their indoctrination if the media neutrally did their jobs.


17 posted on 06/23/2011 10:00:29 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: Psalm 144

At this rate, who is to say that still will not be the case? My money is on full blown police state by 2012 election.


18 posted on 06/23/2011 10:13:52 PM PDT by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !When a majority of the American)
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To: KoRn
Every single day that you are chief of this terrible agency, is all the better for those of us who desire to see it defunded and shutdown! shot down!

Fixed it for you.

19 posted on 06/23/2011 10:16:35 PM PDT by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !When a majority of the American)
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To: Nachum

BTTT!


20 posted on 06/23/2011 11:09:56 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: TCH

I have to agree with you on the police state. When these dumb-butts do things like this or like Ruby Ridge, they try to follow it up with a “homerun” like they did at Waco. BATF doesnt give a crap about someone else’s life or liberty, their tactics never change.....Keep your head down and pass the ammo!


21 posted on 06/24/2011 12:20:38 AM PDT by centermass_socrates
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To: Nachum

Subtle blackmail by Melson? “I know too much so you CAN’T fire me.”


22 posted on 06/24/2011 5:17:22 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: Nachum

“Mr. Chairman, I am happy to at last appear before your committee. At the outset let me state that Attorney General Eric Holder was hermetically sealed in a federal condom and protected against any information at all about Operation Fast and Furious. Yes, authorization for this operation came from high up in the Justice Department but Mr. Holder, as I stated, was hermetically sealed off from any details about it. At no point did the federal condom break and allow details to leak in to Mr. Holder. Oh, and would you be interested in a bridge in Brooklyn that I am selling?”


23 posted on 06/24/2011 5:23:32 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: screaminsunshine
ATF. Eliminate ASAP.

Congress will be proposing drastic spending cuts. Guess which agency is SURE to be on the chopping block?

24 posted on 06/24/2011 5:25:26 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: Nachum

“Yes, Mr. Chairman, I did watch Operation Fast and Furious” as it was delivering up guns to questionable characters on a live video link and also TIVOed it but I have no knowledge of what was taking place. Oh, and Attorney General Eric Holder was hermetically sealed off from all details of this in his federal condom. I hereby deny that he was eating popcorn as we watched the live Fast & Furious video feed. He was actually eating nachos while we watched the operation that he has absolutely no knowledge about.”


25 posted on 06/24/2011 5:33:16 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: SWAMPSNIPER; Nachum
Let him testify, he may hang some of the big boys.

Can you say Holder?

26 posted on 06/24/2011 6:15:30 AM PDT by Doofer
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To: Nachum

Do a search on “Issa” in news there are sick news/blog articles attacking him. One questioning if Issa is a terrorist because of his nationality. And the one I posted the other day where Issa is being blamed for F&F because he was briefed. I can’t believe I am witnessing this. If the DOJ/Obama admin were not guilty they would not be stonewalling and Issa would not be being attacked.

Melson not stepping down shows the Obama/Holder mob “they think they are indeed above the law,”mentality.


27 posted on 06/24/2011 6:16:40 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Nachum

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency.


28 posted on 06/24/2011 6:17:36 AM PDT by kevkrom (Imagine if the media spent 1/10 the effort vetting Obama as they've used against Palin.)
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To: Doofer

I’ve got higher hopes than that.


29 posted on 06/24/2011 6:24:27 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Nachum
I read the entire article.It is strange.It says Melson does not want to be the fall guy he wants to testify but has not gotten "approval" from the DOJ to testify? WTF?

"Melson does not want to be "the fall guy" for the program, under which ATF agents allowed straw purchasers to acquire more than 1,700 AK-47s and other high-powered rifles from Arizona gun dealers, the sources said. The idea was to track the guns to drug cartel leaders. But that goal proved elusive, and the guns turned up at shootings in Mexico, as well as at the slaying in Arizona of a U.S. Border Patrol agent in December.

"He is saying he won't go," said one source close to the situation, who asked for anonymity because high-level discussions with Melson remained fluid. "He has told them, 'I'm not going to be the fall guy on this.' "

Added a second source, who also requested anonymity: "He's resisting. He does not want to go."

Melson has an open invitation to appear on Capitol Hill. So far, he has not been given Justice Department approval to appear before Congress.

This week, Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Vista), chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, said he hoped that Melson would give a full accounting of how the gun operation was conceived and carried out. He also said Melson should resign, and that other senior leaders at ATF and the Justice Department should be held accountable as well.

30 posted on 06/24/2011 6:29:36 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Psalm 144

Well put.


31 posted on 06/24/2011 6:30:51 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: Nachum

I would suggest this guy get some mighty good protection for his life, very quickly!


32 posted on 06/24/2011 6:34:45 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Nachum; Travis McGee; ATLDiver

This is encouraging. I think this guy isn’t willing to be the fall guy, and will give testimony that takes things up the line.


33 posted on 06/24/2011 6:39:51 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: TwoSwords
You are most correct!

It is the media that people will hear,read, and see their entire life,whereas the indoctrinators(teachers?) only get them for 12 or 16 years.

The relentless media drumbeats for more government control and the concurrent media rejection of all traditional Judeo-Christian Western values both energize the statists and discourage the freedom loving.

Plus the press which this nation's founders envisioned as a check on government abuses has become a cheerleader and co-conspirator in the very misdeeds of government.

34 posted on 06/24/2011 6:44:49 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: FreedomPoster

I have little doubt he was in plenty of meetings with Holder etc where the true purpose of F+F was discussed. The kind of meetings where no notes are taken. His testimony, if he could be truthful, would be huge. And if he’s feeling scorned, after them trying to throw him under the bus as the pawn, he might be in a talkative mood.


35 posted on 06/24/2011 6:47:00 AM PDT by Travis McGee (Castigo Cay is in print and on Kindle.)
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To: famousdayandyear
does he have security?

Being that he is the head of the BATFE, my initial thought is that he is surrounded by jack booted thugs who want to kill people and blow up property, so he would just look for some of the thugs to be his personal security detail.

Then I realized that we are talking about a bunch of violent retarded misfits who couldn't organize a pissing contest at Oktoberfest without causing much carnage and mayhem

He might want to take a vacation far away from Fort Marcy Park.

36 posted on 06/24/2011 6:55:13 AM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: Nachum

Causing a disaster policy then refusing to step down is right up the leftist lawless bag of tricks. It’s a close cousin of leftist judges not recusing when its clear as the nose on [her] face that recusal is the right thing to do.


37 posted on 06/24/2011 7:10:29 AM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: FreedomPoster

Yeah, caught that list morning. Good, I hope this brings enough attention the press can’t suppress it any more but I have my doubts. If one takes the time to read the testimony and details, it’s sickening what the ATF and higher officials were attempting to do.

From what’s leaked out so far this IS an impeachable offense but of course it would never come to that. Remember that story several months ago about Obama telling Sarah Brady they were quietly working on gun-control, well yeah he wasn’t lying.

I think the repubs *might* be holding their powder on this for the election, now that Perry is jumping in I could se him making a BIG issue out of this.


38 posted on 06/24/2011 7:14:43 AM PDT by ATLDiver
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To: kevkrom
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency.

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39 posted on 06/24/2011 7:19:44 AM PDT by digger48
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Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
40 posted on 06/24/2011 7:32:22 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: digger48

Applause!


41 posted on 06/24/2011 7:34:19 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: PJ-Comix
Yeah and if he is subpoenaed he has made it clear he won’r be the fall guy so he will tell the truth. He needs in a witness protection program to be protecting by the dept. of justice!
What has our country become?
42 posted on 06/24/2011 7:37:07 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

If he is talking about singing before the congress, he better avoid any meetings at Fort Marcy Park.


43 posted on 06/24/2011 7:42:05 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Nachum
He is said to be eager to testify to Congress.

Hope he doesn't like to eat salads.......

44 posted on 06/24/2011 7:50:42 AM PDT by Red Badger (Nothing is a 'right' if someone has to give it to you................)
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To: PJ-Comix

>>Subtle blackmail by Melson? “I know too much so you CAN’T fire me.”<<

LOL No we can’t fire you but we can take you to the park, so think and act smart.


45 posted on 06/24/2011 7:51:35 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: Mouton
Thank God for bloggers, or we wouldn't get any real news.

________________________________________________________________

Issa Headed to Mexico in Light of Operation Fast and Furious

SNIP

"On Friday, oversight committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Vista), who has been leading the investigation of the ATF operation with Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa), will travel with a bipartisan delegation to Mexico, partly in an attempt to draw the government there further into the investigation.

In a letter this week to Mexico's U.S. ambassador, Arturo Sarukhan, Issa and Grassley requested serial numbers of all firearms recovered in "substantial" violent crimes, along with the numbers of any other weapons that government officials have reason to believe may be connected to the operation.

"This information would be tremendously helpful to us in determining the full scale of the effects of Operation Fast and Furious, which includes the deaths of both Mexican and American citizens," the two lawmakers wrote. "We have a shared interest with you in getting to the bottom of this matter."

Issa will be joined by eight other U.S. lawmakers for meetings Saturday in Mexico City at the federal police command center and also with representatives of the U.S. Embassy.

LINK

46 posted on 06/24/2011 7:54:29 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Mouton

Re: My last post. I wonder if Cummings is one of the bipartisan members traveling to Mexico?

In case anyone missed the hearing...

Watch Rep. Elijah Cummings (MD-7), Ranking Member try to derail any blame towards a DEMOCRATIC ADMINISTRATION. (He does seem to change his obvious partisan views when he hears evidence.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi0_HjDHa-Y


47 posted on 06/24/2011 8:03:19 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Mouton
If he is talking about singing before the congress, he better avoid any meetings at Fort Marcy Park.

And air travel on government planes.

48 posted on 06/24/2011 8:09:43 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

And air travel on government planes.

I forgot about the Brown out.


49 posted on 06/24/2011 8:22:33 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: oldbrowser

I just hope he does’nt fall on a knife four times before they get him on the stand.


50 posted on 06/24/2011 9:13:35 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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