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Man Police Shot During Traffic Stop Was Armed With Armor-Piercing Bullets
KIRO TV.com ^ | Posted June `5, 2011, Updated June 16, 2011 | n/a

Posted on 06/24/2011 2:37:28 AM PDT by Cindy

SNIPPET: "KEY PENINSULA, Wash. -- A man who was fatally shot by Tacoma police during a traffic stop early Wednesday morning pointed a gun loaded with armor-piercing bullets at the officer who stopped him and was carrying a large amount of ammunition in his truck, the Tacoma Police Department said.

Wednesday afternoon, the Medical Examiner's Office identified the man as Brooks Papineau of Gig Harbor."

SNIPPET: "When police searched Papineau's truck, they found a large amount of ammunition and additional ammunition magazines.They also said they found a Koran and several books on converting to Islam.

Police said Papineau went home sick from his job at the U.S. Postal Service at about 8 p.m. Tuesday."

(Excerpt) Read more at kirotv.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: americanjihad; banglist; brooks; brookspapineau; islam; jihad; koran; muslim; papineau; postal; postoffice; quran; rop; tacoma; trop; washington
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To: Squantos

It’s a great rest to not feel obligated to create deathless prose on cue every day.


41 posted on 06/24/2011 4:23:46 PM PDT by Travis McGee (Castigo Cay is in print and on Kindle.)
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To: Travis McGee; tet68

I have jumped into the black art of forging my own knives an some tools. Baby steps for now as I’m still collecting tools for my own small forge while I hang around with locals who have excellent facilities.

Yeah I have some time now an then for a hammer-in event where I get lots of professional guidance. I’ve made 1 good item for every 20 I’ve ruined ....:o)

Sources right now are old railroad spikes an vehicle springs old broken tools etc... Lots of fun . Brother from down your way has two knives I made from files. He uses em on his road trips he liked em so much.

Oh well... To hot to hammer here these last few days. No rain since January an none exected .. Gonna go find a swimming pool an a beer... Its 109 here with 38 mph winds.

Ugh...


42 posted on 06/24/2011 4:43:13 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: MikeSteelBe
If I remember correctly, it was an AR (maybe AK) pistol variant chambered in 7.62 x 39 that caused the old Norinco steel core ammo ban.

Correct, similar in configuration to the Romanian *Draco* AK shorty pistols that are both very popular an d on my own personal want list.

BTW, there was a rumble at the SHOT show where the new even shorter [8-inch barrel/ 18 inches overall] Draco was introduced, that there's soon to be a version in the 5,45 Soviet AK74 cartridge. Which means that the inexpensive supplies of the military steel-cored 5.45mm Soviet ammo now on the market will dry up very quickly, and further importation of the Russian and Bulgarian military 5.45 will be halted.

If you have a 5.45 AK-semi and like the (good stuff* ammo, get what you can NOW.


43 posted on 06/25/2011 7:54:43 AM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: Squantos; Travis McGee
That AP ammo is tough to snag even through official channels here....

Try Joe Timbs excellent .223 Timbs cartridge instead. Especially try it using M855 63-grain GI bullets with the steel penetrator insert.

The civy HP ammo is everywhere yet not the AP variant.

It's around. As you say, a bit scarce and expensive, and not the thing for frequent practice.

You a fan of the P90 an the 5n7 ?

More the P90 than the FiveSeveN. But I really like a PPS43/PPSh41 or sammopal Vz23b loaded with .224 Timbs.

Hope yer well Archy...

Fair and warmer, with occasional outbursts.

44 posted on 06/25/2011 8:14:14 AM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: archy
1.75$ a ROUND ?!?!?!?!

There a recipe for that load or he's just doing same as the BOZ ??

I reload my own in .224 Boz for the CZ52. MUCH cheaper !!

Whats the difference ?!?!? I'm using same sabot's, pulled green tip 5.56 steel core and once fired brass.... haven't chronograph my loads but they do punch what I want to punch through. Stay safe !! Send Money for Timb's ammo !....:o) Got to go study the difference now.

45 posted on 06/25/2011 8:52:08 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: archy

I saw one of those .308 HK91 based pistols at the last funshow. I would think those and that 7.62 x 39 Draco would kind of be a handful to fire.

A 5.45 X 39 or 5.56 AK pistol with the proper brake really has my interest.

I would also like to see a true pistol like the Glock 18 or select fire Beretta 92 chambered in the 5.7 with a drum type magazine. I’ve seen them making those drum pistol mags for a few new types of pistols now. I’ve seen pics of old ones made for the Luger and 1911.


46 posted on 06/25/2011 1:08:16 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe ( "Failure to speak out against evil is evil itself" - Dietrich Bonhoeffer)
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To: MikeSteelBe
I saw one of those .308 HK91 based pistols at the last funshow. I would think those and that 7.62 x 39 Draco would kind of be a handful to fire.

Perhaps you should get some specilized instruction on the piece by an experienced Draco shooter like Anne.

A 5.45 X 39 or 5.56 AK pistol with the proper brake really has my interest.

I'm going to try one of the *bell* flash suppressors meant for the 7,62 round versions of the AKSU suschka. If that doesn't work out, I may go with the *flame extinguisher* from a 5,45 AK74 or try a shortie .30 suppressor.

I would also like to see a true pistol like the Glock 18 or select fire Beretta 92 chambered in the 5.7 with a drum type magazine. I’ve seen them making those drum pistol mags for a few new types of pistols now. I’ve seen pics of old ones made for the Luger and 1911.

The 100-round Beta-C drum for the H&K MP5 has been adapted to fit the Glock 18, and since the .45 1911 Government Model and Commander were successfully adapted to work with the .38 Super cartridge, it should be possible to do something similar with a Glock 21...and the 7,62x25/.224 or .224 Boz or .224 Timbs variants. The 5,7 FN seems to be more of a challenge, but the enforcer versions of the .30 M1/M2 carbine come pretty close to the same performance in 5,7 MMJ Johnson.

I've tried a couple of drums and find they don't work real well with my shoulder rig. But as a reload spare, carried in a *lunchbox concealment* rig, they might have a place. I do sometimes use double-taped extension mags, which seem both a bit more reliable and less expensive, not to mention less bulky.


47 posted on 06/25/2011 2:53:00 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: Squantos
1.75$ a ROUND ?!?!?!?!
There a recipe for that load or he's just doing same as the BOZ ??

I don't know exactly what he's using. I tried some of his in my broomie a few years back and got less recoil and less flash at night, so he's doing something right.

Due to legalities and predatory prosecutors in the Memphis area, it was prudent to practice with handloads and use factory fodder for business, and so I did. But I am no longer in that region, and even then I had such novelties as .30 carbine tracers loaded in 7.62x25 cases as spares. My Mauswer held 20 rounds, after all, and being such a notoriously poor shot, I figured that having at least two reloads worth on board was a good idea. Hollowpoints, tracers, AP; decisions, decisions decisions....

I reload my own in .224 Boz for the CZ52. MUCH cheaper !!

You might want to pick up a set of RCBS forming dies to make 7,62x25 brass out of 5,56mm GI brass. Not cheap, but they pay for themselves. And try the Hornady 90-grain XTP bullets made for the H&R .32 magnum in the 7.62x25 cases. Mi

I figure if I was still using the broomie as my Sunday-go-to-meetin' shooter, I'd use the commercial Timbs ammo in it...and load some of the sabot stuff in 7,62X39 cases for real penetration. Though I have doubts about serious accuracy with the sabots from a 1:10 twist barrel- something a bit faster is likely required.

48 posted on 06/25/2011 3:08:24 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: archy

Perhaps Anne would be more comfortable with Birdman’s Weapons Systems compact Barret .50 BMG with the MicroNuclear projectile.


49 posted on 06/25/2011 7:38:51 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe ( "Failure to speak out against evil is evil itself" - Dietrich Bonhoeffer)
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