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Christie goes all Scott Walker on Jersey
Hot Air ^ | 24 Jun 2011 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 06/24/2011 11:50:53 AM PDT by mandaladon

We may never know how he did it. It could have involved some sort of broad scale mind control experiment. Perhaps he brought in somebody from over the border in Delaware to cast a spell on the state legislature. But in New Jersey – a state generally defined by partisan warfare between liberal Democrats and really liberal Democrats – Governor Chris Christie has met the public workers unions on the field of battle and sent them running like pigs from the gun.

New Jersey lawmakers on Thursday approved a broad rollback of benefits for 750,000 government workers and retirees, the deepest cut in state and local costs in memory, in a major victory for Gov. Chris Christie and a once-unthinkable setback for the state’s powerful public employee unions.

The Assembly passed the bill 46 to 32, as Republicans and a few Democrats defied raucous protests by thousands of people whose chants, vowing electoral revenge, shook the State House. Leaders in the State Senate said their chamber, which had already passed a slightly different version of the bill, would approve the Assembly version on Monday. Mr. Christie, a Republican, was expected to sign the measure into law quickly.

In a statement released after the vote, Mr. Christie said, “We are putting the people first and daring to touch the third rail of politics in order to bring reform to an unsustainable system.”

What were the horrible, unreasonable, punishing changes the governor demanded in this reform effort? Public union workers will need to kick in a bit more for their benefits, on par with private sector employees. The retirement age will need to go up slightly. There will be a temporary suspension of cost of living increases for current retirees. Oh, and the collective bargaining rights of the unions over benefits packages will be curbed. (Any of this sounding familiar?)


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: benefits; christie; debt; goonyans; jersey; miracle; nj; pensions; public; spending; union; unions; unsustainable; walker
In a statement released after the vote, Mr. Christie said, “We are putting the people first and daring to touch the third rail of politics in order to bring reform to an unsustainable system.” ....He has a way with words!!!
1 posted on 06/24/2011 11:50:56 AM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

The guy who used to be governor before Christie must have been abducted by aliens...he has totally vanished..off the radar..


2 posted on 06/24/2011 12:01:16 PM PDT by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: ken5050
Or somebody is trying to build up some conservative creds.

Good luck with that...

3 posted on 06/24/2011 12:11:33 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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To: mandaladon

One positive move. But it had to be done. New Jersey is in horrible financial shape, and I think their underfunding of public pensions is the worst in the country.

Even Governor Moonbeam is struggling to balance his budget.

Still a lot of negatives for Christie, like that move yesterday to nominate a Muslim terrorist to be a judge.


4 posted on 06/24/2011 12:14:34 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: mandaladon

*smiles*...Chris Christie when asked what Dumbo should do about budget talks, quip “first of all,show up”


5 posted on 06/24/2011 12:16:43 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: mandaladon
Christie goes all Scott Walker on Jersey

Greatest healine in a long time!

6 posted on 06/24/2011 12:18:05 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (When NY elected Weiner he thought they said erected...)
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To: ken5050
he has totally vanished..off the radar..

..along with the 100 million he said he left Christi with...there wasn't any

7 posted on 06/24/2011 12:19:10 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; mandaladon
Christie goes all Scott Walker on Jersey

Not even close. The NJ law ends in 4 yrs. If the Rats have regained control they can put everything back in place through negotiation with the unions. In WI it is state law and requires a new state law to repeal it.

8 posted on 06/24/2011 12:22:01 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Cicero

“Still a lot of negatives for Christie, like that move yesterday to nominate a Muslim terrorist to be a judge.”

You have any links to that?


9 posted on 06/24/2011 12:24:35 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Sarah Palin, the only candidate to be vetted by the NY Times, the Washington Post and NBC.)
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To: mandaladon

Ueah, like “You know what?? Non uh yurh business!!” To a civil question from the public when asked why he sends his kids to private school.

He has a way with words all right.

Just the right governor for New Jersey - but nothing else.


10 posted on 06/24/2011 12:26:40 PM PDT by ZULU (Lindsey Graham is a nanometrical pustule of pusillanimous putrescence)
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To: ken5050

Corzine?

He’s off somewhere enjoying his millions after bankrupting the State.

Another loser from the New Jersey Executive Mansion.


11 posted on 06/24/2011 12:27:48 PM PDT by ZULU (Lindsey Graham is a nanometrical pustule of pusillanimous putrescence)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Probably.

Fiscal Conservative.

Pro-Illegal Alien advocate.

Islamophile.

Anti-Second Amendment guy.

Etc.


12 posted on 06/24/2011 12:29:01 PM PDT by ZULU (Lindsey Graham is a nanometrical pustule of pusillanimous putrescence)
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To: Cicero

Still a lot of negatives for Christie, like that move yesterday to nominate a Muslim terrorist to be a judge.

Not only that, he approved of the firing of a New Jersey Transit Employee who burned the Koran ON HIS OWN TIME to protest the Mosque at Ground Zero. Not only that, he referred to that act as “disgusting”. On the other hand, when questioned about the Ground Zero Mosque he said only it was a “local issue”.

I might trust Christie with my wallet, but I wouldn’t trust him with anything else.


13 posted on 06/24/2011 12:31:57 PM PDT by ZULU (Lindsey Graham is a nanometrical pustule of pusillanimous putrescence)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I can’t find the article I saw, but here’s a couple of earlier articles. I think it’s the same judge, although I’m not sure:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=all;o=time;q=quick;s=christie%20muslim


14 posted on 06/24/2011 12:33:42 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

START with:

http://www.toberight.com/2011/01/chris-christie-ties-to-terrorism-a-closer-look/

Then Google “Sohail Mohammad”.

If you find this unacceptable, “YUH NO WHAT? ITS NUN OF YUR BUZNESS!!!!” (Chris Christicism)


15 posted on 06/24/2011 12:35:04 PM PDT by ZULU (Lindsey Graham is a nanometrical pustule of pusillanimous putrescence)
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To: wmfights

Can’t the State Law in Wisconsin also be repealed if legislators want to?


16 posted on 06/24/2011 12:45:40 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (When NY elected Weiner he thought they said erected...)
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To: ZULU

Christie was right; it was none of Gail’s business where his children go to school.

He pays $38K a year in property tax and he and wife choose to send their children to a school that offers religious training in the curriculum, so they go to parochial school.

I say good choice!


17 posted on 06/24/2011 12:48:51 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
Can’t the State Law in Wisconsin also be repealed if legislators want to?

Sure, but the bill would have to pass both houses and be signed by the Gov. IOW, all the pols would be on record. In NJ the law goes away after 4 years and no one has to vote so they can all say they want the law extended without doing it.

18 posted on 06/24/2011 12:55:53 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights

Quote: “Not even close. The NJ law ends in 4 yrs. If the Rats have regained control they can put everything back in place through negotiation with the unions. In WI it is state law and requires a new state law to repeal it.”

You are right but honestly, what else could Christie do? This is not WI where Walker has the legislature. The legislature is firmly in hands of the democrat party. NJ will remain the same old state. Vote democrat until the bus crashes off the cliff, then and only then vote in a Republican to clean up the mess (gov only, God forbid we vote Republican across the board to make the changes permanent). Immediately after the mess is cleaned up vote democrat again and again and again and again until the bus is once more off the cliff. Wash rinse, repeat, wonder why the State is going down the toilet.


19 posted on 06/24/2011 1:03:24 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: wmfights

But for right now, it is law, correct? If NJ were to have a conservative legislature they could vote this into state law, just as WI can vote it out if they regain control. To me, Christie did what needed to be done for now.


20 posted on 06/24/2011 1:13:45 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (When NY elected Weiner he thought they said erected...)
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To: mandaladon

That RINO! /s


21 posted on 06/24/2011 1:15:39 PM PDT by Huck (The Antifederalists were right!)
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To: FlipWilson
You are right but honestly, what else could Christie do?

Please don't misunderstand. I'm not condemning Christie. What he got done is fantastic considering the hand he was dealt. However, he did not accomplish what Walker did and we should not be elevating Christie to that level.

I think your analysis of how voters in blue states act is right on target. As soon as everything starts going well all the benefits will be back.

Walker is the one who facing incredible pressure kept his party together and got the job done. Walker knows full well it will probably cost him his job in the next election as well as those that are going through recall elections. They went ahead and did the right thing anyway. Guys like this I put on a higher pedestal.

22 posted on 06/24/2011 1:16:11 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

ping to #22


23 posted on 06/24/2011 1:17:23 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
...just as WI can vote it out if they regain control.

It's much harder to do. If they vote it out they are all on record. If it dies on it's own they don't get blamed. This is why the unions didn't fight any where near as hard to stop it in NJ. Also, WI ends tenure and automatic deduction of union dues.

What Christie did was great, but nowhere near as sweeping and he didn't face the same level of opposition. I think the unions winked at the whole thing because they know it's only a 4 yr set back.

24 posted on 06/24/2011 1:24:10 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: mandaladon

Nope, he didn’t get any help from across the border here in Delaware. Our legislators just finished a slobber fest of spending after coming up with some new money for their budget. Everybody got a pie, including the legislators who get an additional $100K slush fund to spend on ‘street repairs’ in their districts.


25 posted on 06/24/2011 1:29:05 PM PDT by Hartlyboy
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To: wmfights

Ok - I see what you are saying


26 posted on 06/24/2011 1:37:10 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (When NY elected Weiner he thought they said erected...)
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To: wmfights

Quote: “Walker knows full well it will probably cost him his job in the next election as well as those that are going through recall elections. They went ahead and did the right thing anyway. Guys like this I put on a higher pedestal”

Here I disagree with you. I do not think it will cost him his job at all. I have come to the conclusion that the protests and outrage were contrived. If you have to bring in that many people from out of state and rely on a University population to get gin up a protest, you are not reflecting the will of the people. In the end Walker will be re-elected or not based on the performance of Wisconsin’s economy in light of his reforms.


27 posted on 06/24/2011 1:45:06 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: FlipWilson
I do not think this is a as bad as it sounds..looks to me like they pay a little bit more..like WISC. and come out a mile ahead of the private sector...when the dems get elected they get more back..
28 posted on 06/24/2011 1:52:34 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: mandaladon

I had some respect for Christie but he lost major points with me when he ordered the U.S. flag flown at half mast to honor some rocker instead of a real hero. Shame!


29 posted on 06/24/2011 2:26:05 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist (Congress doesn't care a damn about "we the people")
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To: mandaladon

New Jersey has a powerful Governors office and Mr. Christie is simply competent to uses that power to have his way.


30 posted on 06/24/2011 3:01:17 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: FlipWilson
Here I disagree with you. I do not think it will cost him his job at all. I have come to the conclusion that the protests and outrage were contrived.

I hope you're right. We need real leadership.

31 posted on 06/24/2011 7:14:36 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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