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Rep. Giffords should resign her seat (CNN)
CNN ^ | June 24, 2011 | Paul Sracic

Posted on 06/24/2011 6:53:04 PM PDT by Paul Kib

(CNN) -- In the months since the shooting of U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, reports about her condition have been sparse. We have learned of a follow-up surgery to repair her skull and that she was recently released from a rehabilitation hospital...

...Should the media and the public be so reluctant to demand more information? The Arizona Democrat is not just a private citizen; she is a sitting member of Congress. Do Giffords' responsibilities demand a more searching inquiry into her health? No one is asking this question because it seems moot...

...In reality, the congresswoman is not carrying out any of these responsibilities. Even from the limited information that has been made available, we know that for the near term Giffords cannot carry out her committee assignments, debate on the floor of the House, and, most importantly cast a vote. The result is that for all intents and purposes, the gunman's bullet that so severely injured Giffords also silenced the people of Arizona's 8th Congressional District. Isn't the obvious solution for her to resign and allow Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer to call a special election to fill her seat?...

...Being a member of Congress, however, is also a job. More than that, it is a job that lies at the heart of our democracy. Although we all wish Giffords a swift and full recovery, we also wish the nearly 650,000 residents of her district to be represented in Congress. While her staff may still be in place, being assisted no doubt by other members of Congress, the staff cannot vote.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arizona; congress; giffords; giffordsstatus; markkelly
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It's fascinating to read the comments below this article. People seem to think that her congressional seat should forevermore be a shrine to Giffords and by virtue of her shooting, she has a perpetual right to that seat. That it would be cruel to remove her. Of course, anyone who calls for a recall election is going to be characterized as the latest reincarnation of Hitler, but Scracic makes some good points and he's right to call for her to do the honorable thing and resign.
1 posted on 06/24/2011 6:53:12 PM PDT by Paul Kib
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To: Paul Kib

If it has to be a democrat in office, I prefer one unable to fulfill the duties of the position. Any chances of getting a Republican in if she leaves?


2 posted on 06/24/2011 6:55:03 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Twotone
Any chances of getting a Republican in if she leaves?

I seriously doubt it since it was Republican Sarah Palin that shot her.

3 posted on 06/24/2011 6:57:14 PM PDT by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: Paul Kib
This article is true. One of the unsaid things about Giffords is that although she seems to have been very outgoing and personable, she was an ardent environmentalist and global warming supporter.

It would be a very good thing for Ariz. and the country if she resigned.

vaudine

4 posted on 06/24/2011 6:57:27 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: Paul Kib

I’m not entirely convinced that brain damage would be an impediment to being a Democrat member of the Senate -


5 posted on 06/24/2011 6:57:27 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Twotone

Any chances of getting a Republican in if she leaves?====

Sarah Palin.


6 posted on 06/24/2011 6:59:13 PM PDT by RitaOK (Maybe Perry-Pawlenty '12)
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To: Paul Kib
Democrats have a history of this with Sheets Byrd and Swimmah Kennedy being the most recent examples. Not that Ms. Giffords is going to die, but her return to duty is extremely doubtful.

I read that she has until May 8, 2012 to file paperwork for reelection.

7 posted on 06/24/2011 6:59:15 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Hoodat

Uh==excuse me! What on earth are you talking about?


8 posted on 06/24/2011 6:59:34 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Hoodat

ROTFL


9 posted on 06/24/2011 6:59:52 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: Paul Kib
The Rats (including Scracic) just want a votin' Marxist in that seat, the rest is just hogwash.

Good points my ....

10 posted on 06/24/2011 6:59:52 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: Twotone

Good point...It makes me think the dems want to keep her there, because they fear the results of a special election, and the republicans want her there because it’s half as good as winning a special election.


11 posted on 06/24/2011 7:00:00 PM PDT by kevslisababy
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To: Hoodat
I seriously doubt it since it was Republican Sarah Palin that shot her.

It was?

I thought it was an unemployed surveyor.

12 posted on 06/24/2011 7:01:58 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: vaudine

Explain to me how she represents the interests of the people of AZ when she spends most of her time in Houston or DC? I never have figured that out.


13 posted on 06/24/2011 7:02:01 PM PDT by BubbaBobTX ("The problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Paul Kib

Democrats are not known for mental ability,So she would be fine.


15 posted on 06/24/2011 7:02:20 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: RitaOK

Why would you want the front runner for the 2012 primary, the next Reagan, the conservative, to drop out of the 2012 race?


16 posted on 06/24/2011 7:02:32 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: Paul Kib

Unless Paul Sracic lives in her district, I think he should leave this matter to the people who do.


17 posted on 06/24/2011 7:02:42 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Paul Kib

The GOP would be morons to push for her to resign.


18 posted on 06/24/2011 7:03:52 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Paul Kib

Is she mentally capable of resigning? How much brain damage has she suffered?


19 posted on 06/24/2011 7:04:05 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Paul Kib

To tell the truth, I expected the Dems to arrange to have her vote whatever way they wanted in absentia. Evidently that isn’t working out for some reason.

I looked up the writer, and he appears to be a liberal.

Here’s his web page at Youngstown:

http://class.ysu.edu/~polisci/sracic.html


21 posted on 06/24/2011 7:04:55 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Paul Kib

Like Scott Brown (RINO that he is) taking “Ted Kennedy’s”seat?


22 posted on 06/24/2011 7:05:03 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (Repeal Obama)
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To: All

Remember that she’s a democrat and doing whatever Nanny Pelosi tells you to do does not require much so if she stays, nobody will notice.
Who cares about her district anyway, the important part is that the seat stays democrat, right?


23 posted on 06/24/2011 7:05:27 PM PDT by newnhdad
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To: trumandogz
The GOP would be morons to push for her to resign.

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Exactly, she can't vote anyway, so let her keep the seat.

24 posted on 06/24/2011 7:06:49 PM PDT by kara37
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To: basil

DId you nod off when Giffords was shot? There was a full week (or more) of media and political blather about the “contentious dialogue” in the country being the cause of the shooting.

Palin’s name was brought up more than once.


25 posted on 06/24/2011 7:06:58 PM PDT by don-o (Please say a prayer for FReeper Just Lori.)
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To: Paul Kib

Oh, that’s just cruel and heartless. I mean, Patsy Mink served in the House while dead. Ted Kennedy served while he was nearly dead. And Robert Byrd? Might have been out of it long before the end came.

To say a Democrat can’t serve with a hole in their head is just mean-spirited and hateful. I mean, some Democrats actually do better when near death than they do when they’re functional.


26 posted on 06/24/2011 7:07:01 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: RitaOK

Giffords is in the HOUSE. Palin would have to move to the 8th District which is Tucson. Sheesh!! (Do some research before you post.)


27 posted on 06/24/2011 7:07:27 PM PDT by TaMoDee (GO PACK GO to Super Bowl XLVI)
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To: Hoodat

:-)


28 posted on 06/24/2011 7:07:45 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Cicero
>> To tell the truth, I expected the Dems to arrange to have her vote whatever way they wanted in absentia. Evidently that isn’t working out for some reason. <<

Doesn't work that way. Congressman can't vote by proxy, they have to be there in person, no matter what condition they are in. Senator Claire Eagle of California was terminally ill with brain cancer and couldn't speak hen he was wheeled from the hospital to appear in the Senate chamber and cast a tie-breaking vote for closure on the 1964 civil rights act.

29 posted on 06/24/2011 7:10:56 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: OrangeHoof

Forgive me, I forgot Tim Johnson of North Dakota who was re-elected despite a stroke than left him nearly brain-dead. Of course, Johnson is a Democrat.


30 posted on 06/24/2011 7:11:39 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: BubbaBobTX
Obviously, she doesn't. When she was active, however, she was in the House to vote, and was a consistent party line Dem, from what I have read.

vaudine

31 posted on 06/24/2011 7:11:53 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: basil; EGPWS

Did I really need to include the /SARC tag?


32 posted on 06/24/2011 7:12:30 PM PDT by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: Paul Kib
This is the stupidity of idealizing the victim. I work routinely with people who have traumatic brain injury. Some of them very similar to what we know about Giffords' injury. I feel bad for them but would not want any one of them within a mile of casting a vote in Congress. The very idea is ridiculous.
33 posted on 06/24/2011 7:12:45 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: kara37
Cruel,heartless people .

Of course she should be allowed to "serve" out her term,especially if no American citizen of good sense is available or likely to run.

34 posted on 06/24/2011 7:13:58 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Paul Kib

What, if anything, does the Constitution say regarding the inability of a member of Congress to fulfill their sworn obligations due to incapacitation?


35 posted on 06/24/2011 7:17:31 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: Paul Kib

The media has built this woman and her husband to the level of sainthood.
I never understood what was up from day 1 when her Dad declared the shooter must have been a Tea party member. The MSM hung on to that and had daily updates on her progress, completely ignoring the others killed or hurt during the melee.


36 posted on 06/24/2011 7:18:19 PM PDT by mojo114 (Pray for our military)
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To: BillyBoy

I think they can also agree to pair off with a Republican. But as you say, if necessary, they can wheel someone in and pretend to cast their vote.


37 posted on 06/24/2011 7:18:45 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: TaMoDee

Giffords is in the HOUSE. Palin would have to move to the 8th District which is Tucson. Sheesh!! (Do some research before you post.)” ====

So? That’s no step for a stepper. Sheesh!


38 posted on 06/24/2011 7:18:51 PM PDT by RitaOK (Maybe Perry-Pawlenty '12)
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To: Paul Kib

Giffords will run for and win the next U.S. Senate seat.


39 posted on 06/24/2011 7:19:13 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Paul Kib

Geezus.

Give the girl a chance.

I’m rooting for you Gabby!

You go Girl!


40 posted on 06/24/2011 7:19:44 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Paul Kib

They will probably try to have her husband take her place.


41 posted on 06/24/2011 7:21:50 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: RitaOK

What’s stepper? (Did you do your research?)


42 posted on 06/24/2011 7:23:04 PM PDT by TaMoDee (GO PACK GO to Super Bowl XLVI)
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To: TaMoDee; RitaOK

Don’t tell him.

When I left OK I said that and still do from to time.

Makes people stop and think.

LOL

Do I need a “/s”?


43 posted on 06/24/2011 7:26:14 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: TaMoDee

Did you do yours?


44 posted on 06/24/2011 7:26:18 PM PDT by RitaOK (Maybe Perry-Pawlenty '12)
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To: Paul Kib

DNC is down one vote.

:)


45 posted on 06/24/2011 7:27:13 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Impeach Obama for among other things , violating the War Powers Act.)
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To: opentalk

IIRC the senator from South Dakota had brain surgery and they didn’t ask him to resign his seat. I think he was out for a year or so.


46 posted on 06/24/2011 7:29:55 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Sarah Palin, the only candidate to be vetted by the NY Times, the Washington Post and NBC.)
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To: Twotone

Jesse Kelly came very close to unseating her. Be mindful that it is not only Tucson in that district, it also includes Cochise County in which Ft. Huachuca is located. Cochise County is also a virtual ground zero for the illegal alien crossings. At one point Kelley was leading in the polls and she adopted a very conservative list of promises for a Democrat which was the only reason she was re-elected, in addition to some very questionable vote counts in Tucson and Green Valley.


47 posted on 06/24/2011 7:30:47 PM PDT by mazda77
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To: opentalk

Dems are salivating at having Gifford’s hubby run for the seat, and maybe for the US Senate even though he is a Texas resident. It may work, look at Hillary. She could have run in Illinois or Arkansas, but New York was “lucky” to have her choose their state.


48 posted on 06/24/2011 7:32:33 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: Vendome; RitaOK

“OK” then don’t tell me! The only stepping I do is so I don’t step in “okies” near the corral.


49 posted on 06/24/2011 7:32:53 PM PDT by TaMoDee (GO PACK GO to Super Bowl XLVI)
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To: TaMoDee; RitaOK

You're a 1-bit brain with a parity error

You swine. You vulgar little maggot. You worthless bag of filth. As we say in Texas, I'll bet you couldn't pour piss out of a boot with instructions on the heel.

You are a canker. A sore that won't go away. I would rather kiss a lawyer than be seen with you. You're a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon.

You are a bleating foal, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into this world.
An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and then killed themselves in recognition of what they had done.

I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at the very thought of you.

You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell? Try to edit your responses of unnecessary material before attempting to impress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it more rapidly.

You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood.

May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs. You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You're a fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you.

You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land that reality forgot. And what meaning do you expect your delusionally self-important statements of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have with us? What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous desert rat, spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of the snake?

You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a disease. You are a puerile, one-handed, slack-jawed, drooling, meatslapper. On a good day you're a half-wit. You remind me of drool.

You are deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of wallpaper. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go. You smarmy lagerlout git. You bloody woofter sod. Bugger off, pillock. You grotty wanking oik artless base-court apple-john. You clouted boggish foot-licking twit. You dankish clack-dish plonker. You gormless crook-pated tosser. You churlish boil-brained clotpole ponce. You cockered bum-bailey poofter. You craven dewberry pisshead cockup pratting naff. You gob-kissing gleeking flap-mouthed coxcomb. You dread-bolted fobbing beef-witted clapper-clawed flirt-gill.

You are a fiend and a coward, and you have bad breath. You are degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just for knowing you exist. I despise everything about you, and I wish you would go away.

I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid, so stupid it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid.
Your writing has to be a troll.
Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I'm sorry. I can't go on.
This is an epiphany of stupid for me.

After this, you may not hear from me again for a while. I don't have enough strength left to deride your ignorant questions and half baked comments about unimportant trivia, or any of the rest of this drivel. Duh. The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. I have snipped away most of what you wrote, because, well... it didn't really say anything.

Your attempt at constructing a creative post was pitiful. I mean, really, stringing together a bunch of insults among a load of babbling was hardly effective... Maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more success. True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us "normal" people take for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we sometimes forget that there are "challenged" persons in this world who find these things more difficult.

If I had known, that this was your case then I would have never read your post. It just wouldn't have been "right". Sort of like parking in a handicap space. I wish you the best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that seem to be placing such a demand on you.

Originally Posted by FReeper: Firehat

 

/S

50 posted on 06/24/2011 7:36:06 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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