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NY Legislature legalizes gay marriage
AP ^ | June 24, 2011 | MICHAEL GORMLEY

Posted on 06/24/2011 8:06:12 PM PDT by PROCON

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To: wastedyears; Clint N. Suhks; little jeremiah
Get a petition going in your state to ban gay marriage. After all, you have the right to.

We did that in California 3 times. Each time it was overturned by the FEDERAL courts.

Tell me that this is a "states rights" issue when every time California has tried to define marriage in a traditional manner, the FEDERAL courts have effectively told all of us to pound sand.

401 posted on 06/25/2011 10:35:40 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

How is it my fault when I live on the other side of the country? Tell your legislature to tell the federal government to go pound sand, and to have a vote free of the influence of the federal government.

We all know the Obama government won’t allow a Conservative agenda to advance if they have the power to stop it.


402 posted on 06/25/2011 10:41:52 PM PDT by wastedyears (SEAL SIX makes me proud to have been playing SOCOM since 2003.)
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To: wastedyears; little jeremiah
When your state legalizes same sex marriages then my state will have to recognize the legitimacy of those relations. IOW when one state legalizes same sex marriages, every other state must recognize the legitimacy of those marriages.

So if two homos get married in New York and then move to Alabama, they would have the same rights to adopt children as any other married couple would have.

The homosexual agenda is a cancer upon the nation. When you allow it in one part of the body, eventually it will kill the patient.

403 posted on 06/25/2011 10:47:27 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: wastedyears; P-Marlowe

P is not figuring out only the strong shine right now. It takes a Jesus understanding. There are times when all falls down. Only those that listen carry on.


404 posted on 06/25/2011 10:48:36 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: eyedigress

Huh?


405 posted on 06/25/2011 10:51:36 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

Under what order would Alabama have to recognize the marriage, the Commerce Clause? Where in the US code does it say something to that effect?

I vote Conservative, it’s not my fault that elected NY Republicans are spineless puddles of mud. Also, I don’t remember ever being asked by my local representative my opinion on the matter, compounded with them holding a vote late at night, when most people are sleeping.

Petition your local representatives to propose a bill to not honor a same-sex marriage from another state. You have the right to, and your state has the right to under the 10th Amendment.


406 posted on 06/25/2011 10:53:53 PM PDT by wastedyears (SEAL SIX makes me proud to have been playing SOCOM since 2003.)
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To: wastedyears

Monarchy? Laws against perverion = monarchy?

So I guess you’re a Liberal/tarian. Anything goes as long as it’s vice? But restraint on vice is the big no-no?

I’m not saying “ban desires” - they’re within the mind. That has nothing to do with the state forcing same sex marriage on everyone - recognizing it, cooperating with, photographing it, announcing it in the papers, teaching children about it, giving mentally ill sex perverts other peoples’ children via fostering and adopting, and on and on and on.

And as others have noted, votes of the people are routinely overturned by Federal Judges Gone Wild.

So apparently necrophilia, bestiality and incest would be fine with you if people in a state voted to legalize them.


407 posted on 06/25/2011 10:56:02 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: P-Marlowe

It means carry a towel.


408 posted on 06/25/2011 10:56:17 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: P-Marlowe

P-Marlowe - you are absolutely correct! I hadn’t thought of it that way. Intercepting enemy correspondence, that’s exactly what it is.

And to accuse you! How could a mod not know your position?


409 posted on 06/25/2011 10:57:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: PROCON; ilikebeer

Just the other day I pinged out an article about AG Holder saying he’s going to aggressively enforce “civil rights” on all kinds of institutions and he especially mentioned “churches” - he was referring to the fag agenda.

It’s not a slippery slope any more, it’s a screaming nosedive.


410 posted on 06/25/2011 11:00:31 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: wastedyears

What does a monarchy have to do with not legalizing sexual perversion in the name of fake marriage?


411 posted on 06/25/2011 11:01:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: wastedyears; Clint N. Suhks

You’re supporting the homo agenda while pretending not to. That’s called duplicity.


412 posted on 06/25/2011 11:02:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: wastedyears; little jeremiah; xzins
Under what order would Alabama have to recognize the marriage,

The contracts clause and the full faith and credit clause.

The Congress recognized this issue and passed the defense of marriage bill. That will ultimately be declared unconstitutional as our country continues in its moral decline.

Petition your local representatives to propose a bill to not honor a same-sex marriage from another state. You have the right to, and your state has the right to under the 10th Amendment.

In today's judical atmosphere, such a law would be declared an unconstitutional impairment of a contract.

Tell me such a law would be upheld under the following test:

The Supreme Court laid out a three-part test for whether a law violates the Contract Clause in Energy Reserves Group v. Kansas Power & Light 459 U.S. 400 (1983). First, the state regulation must substantially impair a contractual relationship. Second, the State "must have a significant and legitimate purpose behind the regulation, such as the remedying of a broad and general social or economic problem." 459 U.S. at 411-13 Third, the law must be reasonable and appropriate for its intended purpose.

413 posted on 06/25/2011 11:03:05 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: little jeremiah

An overreaching federal government micromanaging people’s lives, telling them what to do, how to live, you know, what Obama is trying to do. It’s not fair to us, and the converse wouldn’t be fair to everybody else.


414 posted on 06/25/2011 11:05:04 PM PDT by wastedyears (SEAL SIX makes me proud to have been playing SOCOM since 2003.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Liberaltarians like to dance around mincing words and pretending they aren’t advocating what they are clearly advocating.

Gotta crawl to bed - catch this thread tomorrow.


415 posted on 06/25/2011 11:05:06 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Why are you trying to say I’m supporting something when I specifically said I don’t support it? You’re like the MSM saying Conservatives are against all immigration, when we’re against people illegally crossing our borders. It’s misinformation, and you’re not helping the Conservative cause.


416 posted on 06/25/2011 11:06:41 PM PDT by wastedyears (SEAL SIX makes me proud to have been playing SOCOM since 2003.)
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To: wastedyears

An overreaching federal government micromanaging people’s lives...


The overreaching federal government is forcing the fag agenda on us all. The fag agenda is a tentacle of the overreaching fed gov and many state govs have swallowed the koolaid as well.

The founders of this country who actually wrote, signed and understood the Constitution thought that laws against sodomy were perfectly fine and Constitutional. They of course didn’t need any federal laws about it because they didn’t have a leftist SCOTUS overturning states’ rights nor did they have a fedgov larded with fags and fag agenda supporters overturning states’ rights and the votes of citizens.


417 posted on 06/25/2011 11:08:17 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah; Admin Moderator; PROCON
And to accuse you! How could a mod not know your position?

I strongly suspect I have been posting on this forum a lot longer than the mod who made that accusation.

Sometimes the mods just get on their own little power trip and when you challenge their authority or their judgment, they just lose it.

I've been suspended a few times after getting into tussles with the mods over stupid decisions they have made. I suspect it will happen again.

As I said, I am not going to sit idly by when ANYONE accuses me of actively promoting the homosexual agenda.

ANYONE.

418 posted on 06/25/2011 11:09:26 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: wastedyears

You’re tacitly supporting it. It’s like saying “I’m personally against abortion, wouldn’t have one myself, but it’s fine with me if other people want them.”


419 posted on 06/25/2011 11:11:45 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah; xzins
Gotta crawl to bed - catch this thread tomorrow.

If I get banned or suspended before that, xzins has my e-mail.

420 posted on 06/25/2011 11:12:03 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

And you shouldn’t sit idly by, either. If people do wrong they should apologize, it’s the civilized way to behave.


421 posted on 06/25/2011 11:12:45 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: P-Marlowe

Thank you, I will keep that in mind.

It would be disgusting if you got banned.


422 posted on 06/25/2011 11:13:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: P-Marlowe

Could you post a better link to that case, because this is all I found for it. Unless it is the same case.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=search&case=/data2/circs/6th/950278p.html&friend=nytimes

Does the Supreme Court issue rulings that only affect the parties laid out in a suit, or does every ruling affect the nation as a whole?

A contract as I understand it is a service or good for appropriate compensation. As I’m not married, is a marriage license just that, a license to be married, or is it a contract entered into with legal advice? Remember Clinton with his meaning of “is” BS? It depends on what the meaning of license is.


423 posted on 06/25/2011 11:15:55 PM PDT by wastedyears (SEAL SIX makes me proud to have been playing SOCOM since 2003.)
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To: little jeremiah

Except I believe that abortion is murder, federal firearms laws are unconstitutional, and anchor babies are around only because the 14th Amendment didn’t have a sunset clause, or specific wording to the extent that it’s only intended for the children of then-freed slaves.

Do you have links to Federalist Papers supporting anti-sodomy laws? Or if you can recall them from your mind, did they specifically state if they supported them as federal laws, or state laws?


424 posted on 06/25/2011 11:22:45 PM PDT by wastedyears (SEAL SIX makes me proud to have been playing SOCOM since 2003.)
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To: wastedyears; little jeremiah; xzins
Does the Supreme Court issue rulings that only affect the parties laid out in a suit, or does every ruling affect the nation as a whole?

Every ruling they make sets a precedent for all lower courts in all cases.

A contract as I understand it is a service or good for appropriate compensation. As I’m not married, is a marriage license just that, a license to be married, or is it a contract entered into with legal advice?

A marriage is a contract and that contract is valid and must be recognized in all 50 states. The defense of marriage act was a federal law which gives each state the right to not recognize that marriage, but undoubtedly that law will be declared unconstitutional, if it hasn't been already.

Remember Clinton with his meaning of “is” BS? It depends on what the meaning of license is.

Obviously you are not a lawyer. I am. Your arguments on this thread are specious. You are either pimping for the homosexual agenda, or you are just plain ignorant of the facts and the law.

425 posted on 06/25/2011 11:24:37 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

I’ll go with ignorant of the law, with a preference for starting with a clean slate.

Saying I support something when I’ve repeatedly said I don’t is a Liberal tactic. See what Liberals say about Conservatives concerning immigration. I’m for legal immigration, against illegal immigration, and I feel the 14th Amendment wasn’t specific enough.

The only interest in law I have is Constitutional law, and Obama made a joke of it. I have no interest in law concerning the “justice system,” because it is itself a joke today.


426 posted on 06/25/2011 11:30:15 PM PDT by wastedyears (SEAL SIX makes me proud to have been playing SOCOM since 2003.)
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To: wastedyears; little jeremiah; xzins; wagglebee
I’ll go with ignorant of the law, with a preference for starting with a clean slate.

Well take some time and educate yourself. We are facing a moral crisis in the Country and this decision by the NY legislature will have national implications. It will also have spiritual ramifications.

Robert Bork wrote a book called "Slouching towards Gomorrah".

Well we have reached that destination.

If, after this fiasco, God fails to judge this nation (or at least New York), then he will need to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah.

427 posted on 06/25/2011 11:39:15 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

Even though Wikipedia is at best a suspect source for legal information, it looks to me like the Supreme Court affirmed a law, retracted, then stated the original law to be guidelines.

Last paragraph:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_license#United_States

Looks like the Supreme Court preempted everybody. I wasn’t alive when whichever president decided it was okay for a Supreme Court justice to practice activism.

Putting a minute into thinking about it, almost sounds as if the only contractual part of a marriage license is a social contract, that may or may not be signed, affirming the history of both parties not currently being married at the time of signing the marriage license; the license sounds like a state allowing two people to marry.

If you can clarify anything after sleeping, that’s fine with me. I wouldn’t know where to begin to look for legal information on this subject.


428 posted on 06/26/2011 12:04:21 AM PDT by wastedyears (SEAL SIX makes me proud to have been playing SOCOM since 2003.)
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To: P-Marlowe; little jeremiah; wmfights; blue-duncan; Alamo-Girl; Quix; Admin Moderator; ...

Don’t get banned.

Is it possible the mod meant that you were being “used” by the trolls to further their agenda?

Personally, I think the light of day on the freepmails is the proper remedy and then a statement by JR that he will ban those who send such freepmails that are reported to him.

That doesn’t mean, however, that a mod in a hurry couldn’t arrive at the remedy used in your case and at the words used in your case.


429 posted on 06/26/2011 3:13:49 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: P-Marlowe

I meant it very seriously when I noted that NY seems determined to get nuked . . . for starters . . .

One could conceivably add . . . along with San Francisco & much of California and lots of the Western side of Washington State and plenty of Oregon.

Folks seem to forget the historical record in Scripture . . . God pays attention to geography and those persistently and outrageously rebelling against Him in particular geographies.


430 posted on 06/26/2011 4:27:57 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: xzins

Thx for the ping.


431 posted on 06/26/2011 4:31:01 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: xzins; P-Marlowe; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; ...

As hideous and deadly as homosexuality is . . .

I think it is Jeremiah in the Bible who declares that the biggest/worst sin of Soddom and Gomorrah was . . .

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PRIDE.

It was pride that lead to the other junk.

And THAT’S something all mortals can identify with.

We are to judge rightly . . . and judging sin is one of the critical things we must judge rightly.

Nevertheless, we must be very cautious in our attitudes and motives as well as goals for such judgments.

The measure, criteria according to which we judge others will be the standard by which we are judged. Who’s ready for THAT?

Haughty self-righteous judgment is spiritually hazardous—as POTENTIALLY hazardous as putting tab A in slot Z.

Ideally, judgment by believers is to be redemptive—preferably to the individual(s) involved—but at least to the society.

Scripture calls us foremost to judge ourselves to avoid being judged more harshly and more finally, ultimately by God.

Our land is increasingly in the cross-hairs of God’s judgment on at least 12 huge counts:

1. Utter rampant, institutionalized rebellion against God in a list of ways from the top institutions and designated leaders and stars in society on down.

2. Hostility to Israel. He meant what He said when HE SAID He would bless those who blessed Israel and curse those who cursed Israel.

3. Support of satanic Islam—particularly while trashing and censoring Christianity from public life.

4. abortion.

5. homosexuality.

6. glorifying all manner of sensuality, idolatry, hedonism, . . . worshiping the creature instead of The
Creator.

7. Calling good evil and evil good.

8. Murder and mayhem on a massive scale out of greed and power-mongering. Witness the deliberately supported drug oriented sub-culture.

9. Massive and literally devilish corruption on a massive scale.

10. Raging support rushing to overtly manifest the satanic global government at all costs as soon as possible.

11. Massive deadly population reduction schemes by said global government folks firmly in place and beginning to operate or on the brink of implementation in devastating ways.

12. Fathers neglecting their children and children in rebellion against their fathers. Remember the Scripture that in the last days God will send a remedy of turning the hearts of the fathers back to their children and the hearts of the children back to their fathers else He would smite the land with a curse.


432 posted on 06/26/2011 5:07:47 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
God pays attention to geography and those persistently and outrageously rebelling against Him in particular geographies.

that is the stupidest thing I ever read.
If God is all knowing and all just...he will punish the evil and not the good...jerks like Jerry Falwell and Pat Roberson push that bilge-water.

433 posted on 06/26/2011 5:27:33 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: wastedyears

Each Supreme Court is binding on the the Nation as a whole. the District Court rulingd effect only that particular District. The Supreme Court only rules on the Constitutionality of the matter before them. [To wit:] Is it[the matter before them] Constitutional or UnConstitutional?


434 posted on 06/26/2011 5:56:14 AM PDT by sport
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To: P-Marlowe; Admin Moderator; All
FWIW P-Marlowe you have a point. Admin Moderator you also have a point if you do not suspend or ban P-Marlowe. I asked a FReepmail I posted be deleted on another thread (Admin Moderator). I stand by that decision and agreed with your reasoning. P-Marlowe also has a pertinent point with his stand. Asking, by butting in fwiw, for reconsideration Admin Moderator if P-Marlowe is in trouble for stating what was thought. I request I be banned or suspended instead if P-Marlowe is under consideration of being suspended or banned, and by suspending or banning me, P-Marlowe is allowed to stay.
435 posted on 06/26/2011 6:31:56 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Coronal

Point being, with 37 on the books, it should be easy to get a few more.


436 posted on 06/26/2011 6:33:22 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

But we’re not arguing for that “right” to expand the pool of those we can marry. We’re not asking for polygamy, or marriages within bloodlines, or special age inclusion.

My point is that the homosexuals ARE asking for special rights. We’re not asking for them. The law was already set around a certain set of restrictions, which we all abide. They are not asking for EQUAL rights. They are asking for SPECIAL rights.


437 posted on 06/26/2011 6:35:29 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: xzins; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson; PROCON

I did not post the private e-mail of an actual Freeper. I would NEVER violate that trust. What I did was to post the unsolicited correspondence from an enemy Troll along with my response. The guy signed up the same day and then sent out a mass Freep mail to everyone who was defending traditional marriage on this thread.

The Admin Moderator deleted my post giving a rather naive reason that posting the intercepted correspondence from our political enemies somehow feeds their agenda. Frankly I cannot accept thar reasoning as valid.

I got another Freep mail from another enemy combatant who signed in the same day and I posted that freepmail as a warning to others.

At that point the Admin Moderator accused me if “actively promoting the homosexual agenda” apparently because, despite my decade long posting history, I pissed him off because I ignored his arbitrary decision to delete the Troll’s e-mail.

Well, I’m sorry but I can’t just sit still and allow anyone to insult my reputation. The mod did not act in haste. He or she acted deliberately and with malice aforethought. He later realized his folly and deleted his own post, but he did not apologize to either me or PROCON who was also falsely so accused.

I will defer to your pastoral guidance in this matter. I am tempted to repost the intercepted letters from the troll along with my response if the Admin Moderator fails to apologize and if I am breaking some stupid forum rule and it gets me suspended or banned, then I guess I’ll have to live with that. If you think I should just let it go, then I will.

I know you are busy today.

Thanks for always being there ffor us when we need this kind of pastoral guidance.

In Christ,

Marlowe.


438 posted on 06/26/2011 6:40:16 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Quix
Ezekiel 16:49 rings a bell.

Try this site, it's quite handy.

Cheers!

439 posted on 06/26/2011 6:50:47 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: jonjen
I’m curious - what did Christ have to say on the subject of homosexuality or gay marriage?

I'm curious -- your signup date is June 25.

The same day you post this?

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Cheers!

440 posted on 06/26/2011 6:58:20 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: jonjen
There isn't any.

It's only liberals who think that morality increases monotonically.

Cheers!

441 posted on 06/26/2011 7:00:21 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: F15Eagle

Was it from Jennifer Nicole,by any chance?


442 posted on 06/26/2011 7:08:54 AM PDT by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: wastedyears

How the DOMA ruling affects you.
In a very real sense, this ruling is the homosexual movement’s next step in using the force of law to force homosexuality into society nationwide, and to make the taxpayers subsidize it.

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/10c/doma_ruling_0708/index.html


443 posted on 06/26/2011 7:14:45 AM PDT by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: All

Another great one by Quix:
= = =
PRIDE.

It was pride that lead to the other junk.

And THAT’S something all mortals can identify with.

We are to judge rightly . . . and judging sin is one of the critical things we must judge rightly.

Nevertheless, we must be very cautious in our attitudes and motives as well as goals for such judgments.

The measure, criteria according to which we judge others will be the standard by which we are judged. Who’s ready for THAT?

Haughty self-righteous judgment is spiritually hazardous—as POTENTIALLY hazardous as putting tab A in slot Z.

Ideally, judgment by believers is to be redemptive—preferably to the individual(s) involved—but at least to the society.

Scripture calls us foremost to judge ourselves to avoid being judged more harshly and more finally, ultimately by God.

Our land is increasingly in the cross-hairs of God’s judgment on at least 12 huge counts:

1. Utter rampant, institutionalized rebellion against God in a list of ways from the top institutions and designated leaders and stars in society on down.

2. Hostility to Israel. He meant what He said when HE SAID He would bless those who blessed Israel and curse those who cursed Israel.

3. Support of satanic Islam—particularly while trashing and censoring Christianity from public life.

4. abortion.

5. homosexuality.

6. glorifying all manner of sensuality, idolatry, hedonism, . . . worshiping the creature instead of The
Creator.

7. Calling good evil and evil good.

8. Murder and mayhem on a massive scale out of greed and power-mongering. Witness the deliberately supported drug oriented sub-culture.

9. Massive and literally devilish corruption on a massive scale.

10. Raging support rushing to overtly manifest the satanic global government at all costs as soon as possible.

11. Massive deadly population reduction schemes by said global government folks firmly in place and beginning to operate or on the brink of implementation in devastating ways.

12. Fathers neglecting their children and children in rebellion against their fathers. Remember the Scripture that in the last days God will send a remedy of turning the hearts of the fathers back to their children and the hearts of the children back to their fathers else He would smite the land with a curse.
= = =


444 posted on 06/26/2011 7:25:50 AM PDT by Joya (Jesus is coming back. Something to look forward to, it is more than enough.)
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To: wastedyears

You’re either extremely ill-informed or playing at it.

Every state have Sodomy laws on the books and no on thought it a bad thing or an unConstitutional thing.

http://www.apologeticspress.org/APContent.aspx?category=7&article=1080

And what about my earlier questions:

“I’m personally not for necrophilia/incest/bestiality but if a state wants to legalize it’s their right.”

Please state your opinion about the above.


445 posted on 06/26/2011 8:14:17 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: grey_whiskers

INDEED.

THX THX for correcting me.


446 posted on 06/26/2011 8:17:03 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: xzins; P-Marlowe; Quix; Admin Moderator
Thank you both so very much for sharing your insights and concerns, dear brothers in Christ!

In the present situation I would counsel cutting the mods some slack. Surely on even the best day they are handling many things and we only see the tip of the iceberg.

No doubt all of us who have been around here a long time have seen the chaos of liberals gloating of what they perceive to be a big win against us. I'm sure this NY-homosexuality law is no different and the fact that we are not being subjected to their rants on thread probably means the mods have been shutting them down at every turn.

447 posted on 06/26/2011 9:03:34 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: CommieCutter

Ministers and rabbis are hired by the congregations. The liberal congregations will force their clergy to perform gay marriages whether they like it or not - or face losing their jobs. Way to go, New York State! Disgusting.


448 posted on 06/26/2011 9:11:05 AM PDT by juliej
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The Emperor Nero married his boyfriend, Tigellinus. It did not have a happy ending - for them, that is.


449 posted on 06/26/2011 9:13:13 AM PDT by juliej
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To: Alamo-Girl; xzins; P-Marlowe; Quix; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson
Thank you for your reply. I think a little history might bring some light to this issue.

The rants of the trolls give us the opportunity to share with our fellow freepers the arguments that we can use against them. It does us no good to pretend that these people don't exist or to ignore their rants. We need to sharpen our swords and the best way to do that is by clanging steel upon steel.

I posted the noob's unsolicited freep mail along with my response. I got several positive comments from long time freepers about my arguments. Then the mod deleted the whole post and later accused me of "actively promoting the homosexual agenda". That's insane.

I was presenting an argument to be used against the claim that we are all a bunch of backwoods bigots because we don't support gay marriage and embrace their perverted lifestyles.

I guess we can bury our heads in the sand and just pretend these trolls don't exist. I, for one, am ready willing and able to take them on one on one in a sword fight. That is what Free Republic should be about; taking the fight to the liberals and not just sitting here patting ourselves on the back because we are not like them.

AG, I take your advice to heart. You have been a long time inspiration to me. If you feel I am out of line, then I will drop it. Personally I want to re-post my original response to NY10101. But if it is going to cause dissension in the ranks, I suppose it is best if I drop it.

450 posted on 06/26/2011 9:18:21 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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